Who's driving a VW AllTrack?

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Originally Posted by V.R.P

What are people running for snow tires on these? I’m guessing many go down to 16’s to increase options.

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Yes, went down to 16's and running Nokian Hakkappelitta R3's

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Originally Posted by juanrogera

I've always admired the AllTrack... just wish it came in a diesel variant here in the States.

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For what it's worth, I owned a TDI Sportwagen which was part of the recall so got basically the same car in a gasoline version. The MPG difference was surprisingly similar with the TDI only getting 5ish MPG better and often the difference was less, up to 38mpg in the gas version. Not sure how that would play out in an AWD version though. Gas was nice over diesel for shorter around town trips but the TDI definitely ruled on the highway/interstate.

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Originally Posted by V.R.P

Cool to stumble onto this thread. We got a ‘17 Alltrack this spring after my trusty old Jetta bit the dust (2.5L with snows on it was actually a beast.)

What are people running for snow tires on these? I’m guessing many go down to 16’s to increase options.

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I run 215/60/16 with Hakkapelita R3. It’s a tank. I have rockblok fender cover and tires rubs ever so slight. Thing is a tank with these tires. Could run 205/65/16 or 205/60/16 as well. No issues on brake caliper clearance


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I run 215/60/R16 Blizzak WS80 with RallyArmor's. No discernable rub for me, but I haven't checked closely in the wheel wells.

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Originally Posted by V.R.P

What are people running for snow tires on these? I’m guessing many go down to 16’s to increase options.

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16s are the way to go. I scored a set of Konig Oversteers for $220 on amazon and mounted them with Blizzak WS80s. Car kills it in the snow.

The Konigs look great with our black paint, but brake clearance is tight. https://konigwheels.com/wheels/main-...els/oversteer/

215/60r16 blizzak

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Thanks all. Probably going to run AS’s this winter and put snows on next winter after we move and know the storage situation. The stock Falkens seem like garbage - my front left has developed an egg in the sidewall that luckily hasn’t had any effect after 10k miles per the Carfax report.

Not snows but running Nokian WRG4s 225/50/17. No complaints having them year round.

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Originally Posted by alpinevibes

16s are the way to go. I scored a set of Konig Oversteers for $220 on amazon and mounted them with Blizzak WS80s. Car kills it in the snow.

The Konigs look great with our black paint, but brake clearance is tight. https://konigwheels.com/wheels/main-...els/oversteer/

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There's a place with oem vw rims for like $99/rim if you want to keep existing look. It's my plan for the tdi in a week or 2. Mine came with snows so I had to swap out at purchase. Snows sitting rimless in garage now waiting for rims.

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Originally Posted by gregL

Americans are too busy trying to fit their Starbuck's cups into the holders to handle more power?

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Thanks that was helpful.

This wagon continues to be a gem. Great gas mileage and decent power. Apple car play is seamless and it holds a ton of gear. Just downshift to get in the power band. Sweet


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Originally Posted by bennettc14

Not snows but running Nokian WRG4s 225/50/17. No complaints having them year round.

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I’m doing the same and am mostly happy. Clearance is fine and the snow performance is great. They feel a little less nimble than stock though on dry roads. No big deal but when I need to replace I may try the other 17” size wrg4 that makes sense and is a little narrower; I forget what that is.

I’d just use snows in winter if it made sense for where I live.

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Originally Posted by alpinevibes

No issues with the rear defrost, seems good enough to melt before the rear wiper can clear. Just had the 30k maintenance done yesterday and the manual shifts like new again!

Other question: Anyone else having issues with the key fob just fucking dying constantly? I've changed batteries more then yearly, don't usually have the key out in the cold, but have had numerous times where the car wont read it. Huge pain and it takes the car a few min to sense the key off the steer column.

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Fob died on my wife today while she was skate skiing. Very odd, this never happened to us with the 2015 GSW in the 40k miles that we owned it.

Love ours. But anyone else have crazy bad condensation in the mornings? Granted, I moved out to the woods which basically feels like a rain-forest most of the time, but I've never had a car with so much dampness on the interior windows.

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Originally Posted by FJ62

Love ours. But anyone else have crazy bad condensation in the mornings? Granted, I moved out to the woods which basically feels like a rain-forest most of the time, but I've never had a car with so much dampness on the interior windows.

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I have a weird film on front windows. Gonna try the window wax I got and see if it helps


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Yeah. Mine seems to be bad for condensation. No idea why.

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Originally Posted by The Tortoise

Yeah. Mine seems to be bad for condensation. No idea why.

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You're probably just one of those damp and clammy people. My bro gets in a car and the thing fogs up within minutes.

17 SE ~30k. My driver's seat cracked open, and all my suspension started creaking like a 100 year old man; it was pretty gross. VW fixed it under warranty, but it took two trips to the VW dealer and them returning the car to me with a deep exterior scratch and a cracked driver's side interior panel.

I got the thing on the cheap for cash from a desperate to move something VW dealer. Regardless, i've been happy, and with some 16" blizzaks it's great in the snow.

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Originally Posted by jackattack

Fob died on my wife today while she was skate skiing. Very odd, this never happened to us with the 2015 GSW in the 40k miles that we owned it.

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Coincidence? Mine gave me the "change key battery" warning today when leaving for skiing, but still unlocked the door when cold.

Seems 2032 batteries fit in the slot (plenty of those at home) but won't lock in place - gotta be 2025, which I don't have spares of . . .

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Originally Posted by jackattack

Fob died on my wife today while she was skate skiing. Very odd, this never happened to us with the 2015 GSW in the 40k miles that we owned it.

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We’ve probably had 6-7 dead FOBs in the last couple years. Never have had the car recognize that the battery was low, so I can only assume it was mostly cold-related.

The biggest annoyance is that the dead FOB start protocol (holding it against the steering column) doesn’t work well and takes a few min to get the car going


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I only had a 2032 and I just crammed it in there, maybe the extra 60 mah will make a difference?

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Originally Posted by FJ62

Love ours. But anyone else have crazy bad condensation in the mornings? Granted, I moved out to the woods which basically feels like a rain-forest most of the time, but I've never had a car with so much dampness on the interior windows.

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I've seen the complaint a lot in the forums. Usually traced back to a leak from somewhere. Check under your spare tire.

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Originally Posted by whyturn

I have a weird film on front windows. Gonna try the window wax I got and see if it helps


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Same here on the film, just the interior windshield. Doesn't happen all the time though.

When my old Touareg was about 10yrs old water would drip on me inside during heavy downpours. bad sunroof drainage and seals? Heard it from others as well.

I’d assume they fixed that.

Loved that thing and pissed I got rid of it. The V8 was nice.


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The sunroofs are still garbage. It is the number one complaint with these things. Love me some S...but they can leak too, other ways, just less common and generally fixable.

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Originally Posted by uglymoney

The sunroofs are still garbage. It is the number one complaint with these things. Love me some S...but they can leak too, other ways, just less common and generally fixable.

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Strange that hasn’t been addressed by VW since it’s been a thing for a decade or two at least.

Wondering if that is somehow related to the excessive condensation, bad seals or something.


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Originally Posted by AK47bp

Strange that hasn’t been addressed by VW since it’s been a thing for a decade or two at least.

Wondering if that is somehow related to the excessive condensation, bad seals or something.


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The issue with Golf/Alltracks relates to the sunroof drains tubes that drop vertically from the corners. For years VW put drip plugs at the bottom of the drain tubes to keep moisture/bugs from coming up the tubes. Unfortunately the plugs eventually let sediment build up, blocking drainage and causing water to fill up the tube and leak from the sunroof tray into the headliner.

VW issued a recall for Golf/Alltrack this year to remove the plugs and clear the drain tubes. I would guess that some part of this system causes the condensation issues, pre or post plugs.

FWIW we love the sunroof, glad we got the SE and have had a drain tube leak a year before the recall. It was an inconvenience (dealer is an hour away), but they did the same fix as the recall and no issues since.


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Agreed. Common but fixable problem. If you've got condensation in your car, that's the problem. Also love the sunroof. Mine's in a garage most nights, but when I left it in a parking lot for a couple of weeks, I came back to dankness.

So why do I have condensation and no sunroof? Will look in spare area but seems worse this winter than last?


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Funny, we had an Alltrack for 3 years and the sunroof never leaked - most everything else needed repairing - but the sunroof was never an issue.

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Originally Posted by HankScorpio

Funny, we had an Alltrack for 3 years and the sunroof never leaked - most everything else needed repairing - but the sunroof was never an issue.

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Curious what else you had go wrong?

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Originally Posted by alpinevibes

The issue with Golf/Alltracks relates to the sunroof drains tubes that drop vertically from the corners.

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This is the problem with sunroofs in cars in general. I was set on getting a fully loaded SEL, downgraded to the S when I found out anything above the base model had to include a sunroof. Knew I dodged a bullet.

Has anyone else had their windshield spontaneously crack?


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Originally Posted by skithewest

This is the problem with sunroofs in cars in general. I was set on getting a fully loaded SEL, downgraded to the S when I found out anything above the base model had to include a sunroof. Knew I dodged a bullet.

Has anyone else had their windshield spontaneously crack?


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Only when I used warm water on it in winter. Will never do that again. It was really ice caked and seemed like a good idea at the time. Nope


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Originally Posted by alpinevibes

The issue with Golf/Alltracks relates to the sunroof drains tubes that drop vertically from the corners. For years VW put drip plugs at the bottom of the drain tubes to keep moisture/bugs from coming up the tubes. Unfortunately the plugs eventually let sediment build up, blocking drainage and causing water to fill up the tube and leak from the sunroof tray into the headliner.

VW issued a recall for Golf/Alltrack this year to remove the plugs and clear the drain tubes. I would guess that some part of this system causes the condensation issues, pre or post plugs.

FWIW we love the sunroof, glad we got the SE and have had a drain tube leak a year before the recall. It was an inconvenience (dealer is an hour away), but they did the same fix as the recall and no issues since.


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Yup. Wife's Alltrack had the same issue and like yours, fixed under the TSB. We never had an issue until it was stolen. We're still fighting with State Farm. I miss that car, so does she.

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Originally Posted by alpinevibes

Curious what else you had go wrong?

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It was lots of small annoying things - a front wheel bearing needed replacing early, the right rear tire wore unevenly and the dealer couldn't figure out why (?), suspension bolts would came loose randomly, it leaked coolant at one point. I can't recall the rest but it was at the dealer once every couple of months for something. It didn't help that the local VW dealer sucks and would nickel and dime me every time something needed attention. One time the service manager told me "if we fixed your car we have to charge you something." Really? Because that's not how warranties work.

I ended up getting rid of it after they offered to buy it back due to their need for used cars. They gave me over KBB value so I wanted to just get rid of the damn thing. I then immediately bought a new Volvo V60 XC.

I've owned many VW/Audis over the years and you can usually drive them for 70-80k before shit starts going wrong but this Alltrack was a mess. Great car, loved the way it drove - great steering, DSG was surprisingly fun, plowed through snow with ease, torquey little engine - but a reliability nightmare.

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Originally Posted by alpinevibes

The issue with Golf/Alltracks relates to the sunroof drains tubes that drop vertically from the corners. For years VW put drip plugs at the bottom of the drain tubes to keep moisture/bugs from coming up the tubes. Unfortunately the plugs eventually let sediment build up, blocking drainage and causing water to fill up the tube and leak from the sunroof tray into the headliner.

VW issued a recall for Golf/Alltrack this year to remove the plugs and clear the drain tubes. I would guess that some part of this system causes the condensation issues, pre or post plugs.

FWIW we love the sunroof, glad we got the SE and have had a drain tube leak a year before the recall. It was an inconvenience (dealer is an hour away), but they did the same fix as the recall and no issues since.


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I also recall reports of the glass shattering if the car had been sitting in very hot weather with the sun beating down and the driver attempted to open the sliding sunroof. Apparently the glass can bind along the rail mechanism under these conditions

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Originally Posted by HankScorpio

It was lots of small annoying things - a front wheel bearing needed replacing early, the right rear tire wore unevenly and the dealer couldn't figure out why (?), suspension bolts would came loose randomly, it leaked coolant at one point. I can't recall the rest but it was at the dealer once every couple of months for something. It didn't help that the local VW dealer sucks and would nickel and dime me every time something needed attention. One time the service manager told me "if we fixed your car we have to charge you something." Really? Because that's not how warranties work.

I ended up getting rid of it after they offered to buy it back due to their need for used cars. They gave me over KBB value so I wanted to just get rid of the damn thing. I then immediately bought a new Volvo V60 XC.

I've owned many VW/Audis over the years and you can usually drive them for 70-80k before shit starts going wrong but this Alltrack was a mess. Great car, loved the way it drove - great steering, DSG was surprisingly fun, plowed through snow with ease, torquey little engine - but a reliability nightmare.

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Wild, glad you got a good deal in the end; V60/V90 are lust worthy.

I guess we've been lucky with minor things, thus far. Wife wants to keep the Alltrack for 20yrs... We'll see how things look in a couple years when the warranty disappears, let alone once we hit 100k.

I just hit 70K on our 2017

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Originally Posted by HankScorpio

It was lots of small annoying things - a front wheel bearing needed replacing early, the right rear tire wore unevenly and the dealer couldn't figure out why (?), suspension bolts would came loose randomly, it leaked coolant at one point. I can't recall the rest but it was at the dealer once every couple of months for something. It didn't help that the local VW dealer sucks and would nickel and dime me every time something needed attention. One time the service manager told me "if we fixed your car we have to charge you something." Really? Because that's not how warranties work.

I ended up getting rid of it after they offered to buy it back due to their need for used cars. They gave me over KBB value so I wanted to just get rid of the damn thing. I then immediately bought a new Volvo V60 XC.

I've owned many VW/Audis over the years and you can usually drive them for 70-80k before shit starts going wrong but this Alltrack was a mess. Great car, loved the way it drove - great steering, DSG was surprisingly fun, plowed through snow with ease, torquey little engine - but a reliability nightmare.

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I almost bought a V60 XC, but couldn't stomach the premium. It was much nicer though. Felt like a real cockpit in the drivers seat. I do wonder how the self-driving features compared. One of my favorite things about my Alltrack SEL. So far loving the car, knock on wood....