I'm in for 1 set, possibly a 2nd pair set as well
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Aren't most of CAST's sales TGR folks anyway? The regular price is probably already kind of a group buy price, and they can't afford to discount it much.
Probably and you’re probably right. And they definitely deserve the credit and profit for the work.
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I stopped asking for discounts for these unicorn products. I want to see the innovative ones succeed so I have access to future gear.
Go ask Salomon for a discount on the shift.
A discount is obviously appreciated but after ACL surgery, I'll never ski anything but a pivot again. I don't care how much it costs. I want to see Look buy CAST. I don't know if CAST is interested in selling, but... Look better be paying attention. If they had any wisdom they'd be rewarding these two brothers for bringing them the sales one way or another.
/what-do-I-know?
Yeah, I mean......I'll buy anyhow, but I guess it comes down to how they plan their production / production capacity / sales volume.
If they see a benefit to getting more buyers on board early in the autumn then a small discount here makes sense, especially if our stoke / spreading the news add more sales. If they have a set number of units to produce and sell this year a discount makes less sense.
And it doesn't have to be a discount as such. As far as I understand you have to choose one of the AFDs this year, and adding the other for free for a short period of time would really sweeten the deal for me.
Pretty stoked to ski the system. Got the upgrade kit + 2nd kit.
I ski'd a gnarly N. Coulior on Mt Johnson out of Bishop, and I would have really appreciated a damper ride!
Even on Kingpins, that cooley had me puckered.
Will report on the CAST ASAP.
Eager for the new CAST system to show up in the mail any day now. Has anyone else got theirs yet? First impressions?
Word from CAST that they will be shipping next week due to parts.
Has anyone gotten a shipment notice or anything yet? Email a few weeks ago said they would ship the 15-16, curious if anyone has heard anything yet.
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Nothing as of today. I was coming here to check the same thing,
Thanks for bumping this to the top, saved me from having to search for it! I just wanted to circle back and give a few longer term impressions and notes.
I had a rough winter last season, blew up a new pair of skis, a new pair of boots, and had some challenges with my CAST bindings. Overall I was really impressed with the system, and it was a delight to be skiing real bindings again after too many years on Dukes. Unfortunately, there were problems with the AFDs. One being that the white plastic was coming unglued, but more problematic was that the whole block was easy to pop off it's mount if you released forward, or even if you dragged your toe a bit when stepping out. I quickly lost a WTR AFD, and had to switch my toe blocks back to alpine, losing my touring ability. CAST was responsive to the issue, and sent out handful of spares which got me through until the skis they were mounted on blew up, at which point I put them aside for the rest of the season.
After some time (a month or so?) CAST contacted me and said they had redesigned parts and how many did I need to make it right? I asked for 3 of each (DIN and WTR) as I was still a little worried, and they sent them along pronto. So far so good. I have remounted the system on new skis and the AFD seems to be made of a stiffer plastic that prevents it from un-clipping from the toe plate accidentally.
Just an aside on how I did this mount. I have put BF inserts in the 6 rear holes, and plan to buy another toe plate and set of shoulder screws as a second ski kit once I decide what skis to add them to. Seems to work fine. I did notice that the touring toes were pretty tight when I made the first mount (last season) but they seated in OK. This mount seems to have maybe one toe screw a little misaligned, and the touring toe is a bit hard to seat, and a little reluctant to snap in the boot. I expect with a little more use it will settle in. The toe holes were jig drilled by a trustworthy tech, and I did careful mount job. I think the tolerances are tight there though, so be very fastidious when you set them up. The P18 toe snaps right in place, no problem.
Still waiting.
I talked to the boys before my Japan trip last of the pieces were being finished Tuesday/Wednesday so look for stuff next week possibly? I know they were working hard getting as much done as possible to expedite the process.
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Kind of a bummer it’s gonna be late Jan/early February before anyone gets to touring. If it weren’t for my shitty work schedule up to February 15, I’d be pissed. But alas, I’m not skibumming this year, so the delay does not sting so bad. Will be happy with a solid backcountry interface.
I hope the Freetour is the shiznit!
Anyone using FKS Race 185s with their CAST set up?
I think they're the same binding but not 100% sure with regards to internals.
Call the boys, they will know
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Shipping notification today!
After one of the best days I have had at Snowbird in probably 10 years I come home to an emails saying CAST has shipped my bindings. They UPS notification email said they will be here tomorrow. Stoked to get them mounted up and ski them.
:D Enjoy! I have a friend waiting for a pair, can't wait to see what tweaks they have made.
I had a little learning/user-error experience this morning. It was zero dark 30, and some how when I took off my ski, one of the brake retainer clips flipped up a bit. When I went to step in, I did not notice this in the dark. I did notice that I was having trouble getting into the binding, so I did what any sleep deprived 'troller would do, and tried harder... I ended up bending the clip pretty wonky. :( I was able to brute force it back enough to get the skis on and they were OK to ski. 10 minutes with my leatherman at the top of the mountain got them reasonably functional, and a 1/2 hour with a vice and hammer tonight got them not quite good as new. I don't think it will be quite as secure in brakes up mode, but I have the rubber band for back up and will see how it goes.
SO - have a glance down before you step in.
Arrived today. Will not have a report for a while though as I gotta get them mounted, and get some days off for a tour. Fuck, it feels like late season already. Here’s to a good February, March, and April! Hope the snow keeps coming to really put the CAST through the wringer!
CAST is going on 4FRNT Ravens and Praxis Protests. Have another BC setup for longer days in G3 FINDR 102s with Kingpins.
I'm back to looking at these.
Where are we with this + Gripwalk?
I'm guessing full touring soles (ie. next yr's Hoji Free) is a no-go?
Moved to other thread.
Hey 2FUNKY - you might want to check the threads that talk about the original CAST systems.
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2013
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Ok thanks.
As long as your bindings are the same as the system you’re good. Sth and sth2 are different pattern. For example, a cast system for sth will use the same pattern as sth so just take your bindings off and mount the system when you get it with the supplied screws and plates. Like wise for the sth2. They’re just not cross compatible
I'm guessing you got a line on an earlier generation for STH, 'coz the last two years were only for Pivots (https://casttouring.com/collections/freetour-bindings).
For the Pivots, you use the same hole pattern. Take note that you can't use QK / Binding Freedom inserts on the toes. I believe the shoulder screws go directly into the ski. The Cast guys do use helicoils however (works with standard binding screw pitch).
I'd guess that they'll eventually come out with any AFD you need - looks like only a pad thickness change (https://casttouring.com/collections/freetour-parts).
Every time I read about Gripwalk I get confused. At one point, I thought the boot's AFD area had a rebate to net the height out to the same as alpine boots. Now, I'm not so sure. It might have to do with the width of the rebate vs. the alpine specification for AFD width.
... Thom
Good to know. I thought they were using inserts. Not sure how many times I’d want to remove and reinstall them . Doesn’t seem to bad of a price to buy the additional plate option they have.
New system seems like it’d be perfection. After some slight filing to my version 1 plates they worked like a charm until one time i left them in my truck overnight clogged with snow. After 150ish days just skiing around the hill on my daily driver gpo the sth toeplate has some slop. The plate for the dynafit toe, despite only 30ish days of touring, have more slop. The dynafit toe plate is considerably shorter than the sth toe plate so it has prematurely worn. It shouldve been the same length as the resepticle plate, like the sth toe plate. I considered just making a plate out of a thicker piece of aluminium without the inserts.itd be a few mm higher but no big deal for slackcountry. They still ski fine despite a little rattle with the sth toe in but I just want the new system. New system seems to address any issue. My change overs became pretty efficient after a few days and it’s nice to not even think about them being there on the daily driver until you want to go for a walk
It really looks as if they have it dialed in.
As far as Gripwalk is concerned, the site is clear as mud about boot compatibility: https://www.grip-walk.com/faq/
I guess I shouldn't be surprised. It's geared toward selling new bindings and boots.
The odd thing is that Gripwalk certified bindings work with ISO 5355 boots with no adjustment, but non-Gripwalk ISO 5355 bindings won't work with Gripwalk soles. WTF?
One thing I noticed in their parts link (above) is that the new shoulder screws for the toes are a two-part assembly - the bushing and the screw. If you got creative, I'll bet you could fit an M5 screw in there. You'd probably need to fashion an inner bushing, and with their second ski kit running $100, it's probably not something worth doing.
... Thom
If you don't mind assembling your own screw kit, you can convert the CAST STH2 kit to STH by double-drilling the heel spacer. Don't think it would work as well double-drilling the STH spacer.
Double-drilled STH2 spacer on left, STH spacer on right.