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City Park, Wednesday at 9:20. Usual texts have been sent but we got room for one more if anyone else is down.
Let me know and I'll throw you on.
After carrying it for 5 years, i'm finally dialing in my 60*. I don't use it for full swings, just for laser-like drop shots close to the green. Last full swing i bladed it and ended up 30 yards past the green on a 50 yard shot.Quote:
Originally Posted by RockChalk
101 at the Pines. Triple and quad on the last two holes sorta didn't help. Did hit one of the prettiest 4H draws onto the green i've ever hit. And one curling 25' putt. Rest was meh. Nice part was teeing off at 340 we never had a group in front of or behind us. Only like 3-4 other groups on the whole course. Nice being able to play your own pace, although that appeared to spike the PBR consumption...;)
RockChalk - Anyone not playing with a 60 degree lob wedge is doing themself a major disservice. Get one.
Not all courses and conditions require a 60 degree wedge and it can be a bad thing. A player is much better off learning to be creative with one club than relying on a specific loft. You can open the face on a pitching wedge and get the same result as a 60 degree with the only difference being the bounce of the sole.Quote:
Originally Posted by TahoeJ
Our course opened saturday, and I played the first round of the year.
-playing form mats to temporary greens
Had a good first round, 45, with weather from sun to wind to hail, felt like I was going through manopause.
-snowed 5-6 inches sunday, shutting the course down
-5 mountain goats in the ravine above the course
It's going to be a good year.
Grip 'em and Rip 'em!
General consensus, 3-PW, next club is a 60 degree wedge? I'm laid up for at least three months, won't be walking anything. I'd like to get a wedge and hobble around working on short game.
What I do. But but takes practice. Maybe different grasses call for it. Usually carry only 12 clubs in the bag. Add a "chipping club" to a 60 and you have the golf gapper setup. :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by 4matic
I'd get a 54 or 56 for that..Quote:
Originally Posted by BS720
Yep^^
I am setup with a D, 3W (that rarely sees the light of day), 3H (20.5*), 4-GW, 54* SW, and soon to be a 60* lob.
At some point I would like to replace my AP2 GW with a 50* wedge that matches my SW and LW.
I have an old Vokey 50* which is about my favorite club in the bag.Quote:
Originally Posted by RockChalk
As i hit a 10.5* driver, i switched the 3W out for a 4W, made it a lot more playable for me...
Did swing the sticks this wknd, Tye?
i disagree.Quote:
Originally Posted by TahoeJ
I carry an OLD 55 Deg RAM Bounce wedge. A good day is when it stayed in the bag
Most of my work around the greens is usualy with an 8 iron.
FYI I am getting ready to head up to Kings Beach and walk 9 holes at Old Brockway. Anyone wanna join?
Fine, I guess the 60 degree wedge isn't for absolutely everyone, but there's a reason that 99% of tour pros have one in the bag. It in itself can be extremely versatile, particularly for shots from about 30 - 50 yards out where you have to carry and don't have a lot of green to work with. Sure, you can open up your pitching wedge, but you can't be that consistent doing that otherwise you have maybe the best short game on the planet.
No, you'll want a sand wedge before that. 54 - 56* ... otherwise for full shots you're going to have too much of a gap.Quote:
Originally Posted by BS720
Tour pros carry two and three irons also; 60 degree wedge is the 3 iron of wedges. Tour pros also use 8 degree drivers. Tour pros use X-stiff heavy shafts. What PGA tour pro's use has little in common with 99% of all amateurs.Quote:
Originally Posted by TahoeJ
True. On the other hand, I'd say that a 60 degree wedge would benefit your average golfer more than a tour player.Quote:
Originally Posted by 4matic
So about to go play 9 @ Brockway, and now I am getting comped for the Mountain Course in Incline one of the next 2 days.
Was offered the Championship course but I am not ready to hit that yet.
Where did these frickin clouds come from!! I decide to play golf and the clouds come?
I agree, in large part because the average golfer doesn't have touch required to spin the ball consistently and effectively. I have to hit it high in order to hold slippery greens; there's too much risk associated with trying to hit a lower-trajectory shot that checks up.Quote:
Originally Posted by TahoeJ
^^This is the exact reason I want one- full swing approaches under 100 yds to land the ball soft.
this reminded me of the time i was trying to have that experience at rose city, except it wasn't even dusk yet and i had just started the back nine, but nobody was on the course. the groundskeeper drove right past me in the fairway and pulled the pin and i asked him why, given that i paid and it wasn't even dark. he just said "aim for the center of the green" and kept driving. took me a few holes to calm down after that. fucking city owned course, too.Quote:
Originally Posted by MotherFucker
Read in Golf Mag or somewhere of a study they did with a bunch of 'average' golfers. Half had the pins to shoot at, the other half the pulled them so they just 'aimed for the center of the green'. Guess which group had the lower average score? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by spook
^ I was gonna say, he probably did you a favor.
Some of the most memorable rounds/shots of my life have been on solo/twilight rounds. It is truly a meditative experience for me to play alone, especially on the rear end of a gorgeous summer day.
Last year I made it a point to play twilight every Sunday by myself, it helped to get my mind right going into a new work week and it also served as a formal end to my weekend. Can't reccomend it enough.
he probably did do me a favor, but he was a dick about it. it wasn't a nice "just aim for the center of the green." it was a "you're the only fuck out here and you can't play for shit so i'm going home early" just aim for the center of the green.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tye 1on
also, somebody earlier mentioned that after you establish your handicap, when you exceed it you can just pick up. at least i think that was what the gist of it was, and i don't have time to look through the whole thread at the moment. is that actually true? seems i heard that somewhere else in a group of people and somebody objected and said that isn't true because your handicap isn't static.
thanks for all the input. i'm not expecting gospel truth, but a lot of ideas i can play around with, pick a few and focus on. i shot 108 my first season on what i've been told is a relatively difficult course (74.1/136 from black, i'm playing from white -- i think 70.2/123) after a couple of months hitting the ball at the range and not really understanding the importance of the short game until i heard on a major broadcast that what, 60% of all shots by the pros are inside 100 yards?
i hope i can break 100 this summer and make significant progress toward 90. my putting has already improved significantly.
i'm also not trying to emulate tiger's swing, just learn from it. after 20+ years of pretty severe musculoskeletal problems, i've lost a lot of flexibility and i'm trying to figure out what i am capable of doing that is relatively technically sound and functional in my condition for the long run, given the torque involved in golf.
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Originally Posted by RockChalk
yeah, i love it, but i also like earlybird. i've been one of the first two or three out playing alone at least 3 times this season. i get that little tingling in my loins when i drive up and the lot is empty and the pro shop guys haven't even started pulling out the BIG SALE shit that even at 30-50% off is absurdly expensive.
i have to work harder when i play with other people, particularly people i don't know. i'm not chatty on the course and i find it really distracting to my mindspace to have to be considerate of others, as pathetic as that sounds. i guess that's part of the game, too, though.
There's a geriatric out here who carries only a putter and plays it for every shot.
-hits about a hundred yards
@Spook, I went to Junior High at Whitford, right across the street from Progress Downs (now RedTail), I've played that course too many times to count.
You can break 100 there, keep trying.
Ya getting used to playing in front of strangers will either require a copious dose of humility, that you get your game straight, or that you just dont give a fuck.Quote:
Originally Posted by spook
I have been playing golf my entire life, and have just recently started to actually enjoy playing with strangers- probably correlated with the fact that my HC has dropped considerably over the last couple years.
I remember reading an interview with one of the "New Breed" young turk touring pros. Maybe it was 5 years BT (Before Tiger).Quote:
Originally Posted by Tye 1on
Interviewer asked what he learned about golf his first year on tour. 'Never believe anything they say in Golf Digest." I was deep into my golf addiction at the time and it rang true.
I will say though that unless your playing 3-4 times a week the center of the green is where to aim.
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Originally Posted by RockChalk
believe it or not, humility is not a problem for me in golf (or snowboarding). a bigger problem is confidence (in golf, at least. i feel remotely confident on my board until i see some 17 year old due something absurd, then i realize i'm good enough to have fun as long as i don't take myself too seriously), given that i have not paid the price to have confidence yet. since my game isn't straight, i generally go with something closer to i don't give a fuck without being reckless. it's easy to say i don't give a fuck if i play like shit. it's a little harder to admit to actually trying and play like shit.
i have played with several people i really enjoyed. i think i mentioned in an earlier post that compared to the asshole drunk golfers i used to wait on for several years, the people i've met playing were surprisingly nice and as i think i also mentioned, i was shocked how many times i got offered a toke. it just never occurred to me. i grew up with a dad telling me things like golf and skiing were elitist activities, and he was pretty resentful if he took the time to give a shit. i've since learned there's a whole other side to both sports, which are both comparatively recent in my life.
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Originally Posted by DeathVan
so do you like the course compared to the others in portland? i've played at all the city-owned courses (redtail, eastmoreland, rose city and heron lakes -- though only greenback, not great blue) and a few others in the vicinity. i played at glendoveer a ton when i first started, but once i started shooting 45 regularly, i figured it was time to play something harder, even if my skills didn't justify it. plus, redtail is 10 minutes from my house. i have to play cheap, so it's always earlybird, twilight or a coupon. glendoveer is a little cheaper, but the time and traffic to get there make it not worth it, though i do enjoy it since that's where i spent most of my first season (started at mckay, but it's comparatively barren and visually unattractive).
i've learned a lot playing at redtail probably 20+ times in a season and a quarter. i feel like i have a good chance to break 100 this season. too bad i had to leave the country for 2 months and ended up where, from what i've been able to ascertain so far, all golf is private club and prohibitively expensive.
i also think it's kind of funny that when you get to 15 at redtail, the green is in front of some big office buildings with tons of windows. sometimes it feels like there are probably a couple dozen sets of eyes watching people play all day and therefore watching me suck it up. a couple weeks ago i hit a 5 wood about 200 yards that just missed the water to the left and bounced on the green (and the groundskeeper had stopped to watch me and gave me a nice shot) and then sank a 25' putt one day, so i felt i had properly deceived them. then i played the next week and sent 3 in the water before giving up, so i guess they know the reality now.
just got a late invite to a corporate scramble at HMB tomorrow. I'm not a fan of scramble golf but the it beats working and the food swag and prizes are worth it. Might be a decent day too. For $40 we could play twi at Wente or the The Bridges which are much nicer courses. twi starts late at HMB too.Quote:
Originally Posted by RockChalk
Took me 15 years to figure out but golf is so much better know that I don't give a crap what I score. Used to practice and get pissed when I played poor. Index got down to 11.5 but I hated the game. Now I play once a quarter, smoke a cigar and don't give a shit if I shoot 82 or 102.
Still takes too long to get in 18 holes though....
So does anyone here ever try to get a round in pre-work?
I am not expected at the office until 9ish in the morning, just wondering how many holes I can expect to get in with like a 5:45/6AM tee time/
^^^ Depends on the course. I've played 18 before work, finishing in 2:45 since I was the first one out.
And the advice that you should always aim at the center of the green unless you play 3-4 times a week is laughable. It depends on your skill level, obviously. Every hole is situational and a risk/reward analysis.
Think you are referring to the Equitable Stroke Control part of the handicap system, otherwise known as Rule 4-3. Basically if your handicap on a given course is single digits, you can't card higher than a double, 10-19 a 7, 20+ an 8, etc. Keeps your handicap from being elevated because of blow-up holes, supposedly. It's on a hole-by-hole basis, not overall score.Quote:
Originally Posted by spook
Somebody asked Johnny Miller once what club he used for a 100 yard shot. All of them, he said. They told him 'you don't understand the question', he said, 'no, you don't understand my answer' and went from driver to putter, hitting each 100...;)Quote:
Originally Posted by DeathVan
I totally agree with this. I used to get frustrated when I wasn't playing well. My dad always told me that I wasn't good enough to play well, and that really pissed me off. Now I go out and take it way less seriously. I still shoot in the low 90s, but have so much more fun on the course.Quote:
Originally Posted by BirdRock
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Originally Posted by idiot
What a dick.
Skiballs: Just got back from practicing with the r7. Hits great but nice, easy, girl swings are my keys to hitting the driver straight. Once I get my tempo down, I'll start incorporating more of an agressive release through the ball to generate more speed.
Utilizing the "drop the back foot" drill, I was coming through the ball so much better through the inside. I have a really bad in-to-out swing path that needs a consistent fix and I think that drill will help so much.
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Originally Posted by RockChalk
If you get out by 6 and ride, there's no way you'll not be able to finish in time to get to work by 9. I've played many early morning rounds and you just never see anyone else out there. Sure, maybe a couple others, but you can get away easily by telling them you have to be at the office.
I like to refer to a three-hour round as "Irul's mother"- ten minutes per hole.
Thats what I was thinking too, ever since I started working full time I have rued the fact that I never have enough time to play 18 during the work week. Can't believe I didn't think of playing BEFORE work...just getting the hang of this real person/real world job thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by MotherFucker
MF'er
In fairness to my dad he would say the same of himself.
It was intended to mean that until I actually practiced all the time and could shoot well there was no reason to think I should shoot well