So by how you see it, with me being in the Guard (reserves, technically), I'm totally in the clear?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dexter Rutecki
Printable View
So by how you see it, with me being in the Guard (reserves, technically), I'm totally in the clear?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dexter Rutecki
Someone stole my Ruger M77 MKII Sporter 7mm Rem Mag with a Burris Fullfield II. You're right- it sucks.Quote:
Originally Posted by 13
Naw, it was my flowered Hawaiian "Big Kahuna" shirt with pink narcissus flowers, and my Sperrys.Quote:
Originally Posted by PNWbrit
The problem with all these "stats" is that they reflect reality and so the poster must be attacked, apparently, for presenting them in context. And DUH! having a gun in the house reflects a high risk lifestyle. Ya think ! Unless you choose to ignore the "stats".Quote:
Originally Posted by waxman
You are correct that the 1.9 times stat doesn't say which gun killed the victim, just that the victim died of firearm violence in the home. Firearms in the house is not, statistically, a preventative measure. It's a statistically significant finding.
Any gun pics to post? If not, stage exit left.Quote:
Originally Posted by TruckeeLocal
Excuse me. I don't wish to publish pictures of my guns. Nor do I respond well to censorship. If you ask me the 1st amendment trumps the 2nd. There is nothing in the post I responded to that contained a picture of a gun. It seems that you're rather selective in your desire to suppress input.Quote:
Originally Posted by TNKen
Are those legal or illegal guns? Where were those homes? You see what I am getting at...I wouldn't be at all surprised if people who had an illegal gun in a crime-ridden area were shot.Quote:
Originally Posted by TruckeeLocal
Read the study here. It was a 10% sample of all deaths in 1993 (except for South Dakota). Pretty compelling statistical methods. But I agree that crime-ridden areas tend to be better populated with gun ownership (and active use ?). They wouldn't be crime-ridden areas otherwise. Then again a home-based homicide would then qualify the area for being termed 'crime-ridden'. It's sort of a recursive argument.Quote:
Originally Posted by 365wp
Not censorship, start your own thread. That way I don't have to scroll through your driviling.Quote:
Originally Posted by TruckeeLocal
No picture ? And corvettes in a gun thread ? What gives.Quote:
Originally Posted by TNKen
You can shoot my 556 in about a month when I'm back in aspen if you want. I think its a far better gun for the price than any AR.Quote:
Originally Posted by skideeppow
- For a comparable trigger on an AR, you'd have to get a $300+ custom job
- The gas system is more reliable than an AR (you HAVE to clean an AR every couple 100 rounds or it wont work) Some ARs are pretty picky about ammo too
- it takes ar mags
cons
- the factory sights suck, but you can get others
- A little heavier than an AR
Whats your problem with that? You obviously hate gun owners.Quote:
Originally Posted by TruckeeLocal
Nah, its not about censorship, its about having a tiny bit of class. There is another thread about gun control, this one is about gun stoke. The first ammenmentd doesn;t mean shit here either, since its a privatley owned website. You have the right to post here because you haven't been banned for being a douche yet. You have every right to post here, you just wouldn't unless you were a giant douche.Quote:
Originally Posted by TruckeeLocal
But you are a giant douche, so thats that.
EDIT: Hey trukeefagh, if you ever start a thread on here about anything im going to cunt it up just thje same.
Pics of classic Douche Destroyers
Stoner
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...g?t=1207842841
Ithaca Auto & Burglar
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...g?t=1207842876
Newton WWI British Mortar at the local courthouse--Rare piece
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...g?t=1207842922
Wow, you invested a portion of your life to compose that. To say what ? Nothing about guns in a gun thread. Seems it's ok for some to cunt up threads while others stay on topic and get criticized. Anyway isn't it the responsible thing to do to suggest that when someone says they 'feel' safer because they have guns in the house to present them with actual facts to enable them to question that assumption and preface that with an in context quote from a well regarded, and humorous, American author ? I guess not. Better to just toss out unfounded insults.Quote:
Originally Posted by leroy jenkins
no, the 2nd protects all the others...Quote:
Originally Posted by TruckeeLocal
Touche. So a picture to (start to) get back on topic ...Quote:
Originally Posted by waxman
http://www.wcnews.com/chrisreid/supersoakers2004gt.jpg
ouch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peewee
the worst part of the whole situation is that my LEO buddies were pissed at me. it honestly wasn't my fault but in retrospect, i should have let my roommates know i had a gun in the house -- then they may have been more diligent about locking up behind them during the day.
i hope to fuck it never ended up in the hands of a gang member or some other shady motherfucker.
Someone else asked me to post this with a comment along these lines “all the Americans on TGR should be embarrassed, this is what most Canadians have lying around without the benefit of the Second Amendment of the Constitution (which by the way recognizes rights, it doesn’t “grant” them) ”
again not mine, not judging, just reposting.
http://www.biglines.com/photosv2/200...ines_84134.jpg
http://www.biglines.com/photosv2/200...ines_84133.jpg
http://www.biglines.com/photosv2/200...ines_84132.jpg
http://www.biglines.com/photosv2/200...ines_84131.jpg
http://www.biglines.com/photosv2/200...ines_84130.jpg
wow, mntlion.
I'm drooling over the sig 551, we can only dream about those in the US.
How do you have handguns though? I thought those were a no no in Canukistan?
Invested a portion on my life?Quote:
Originally Posted by TruckeeLocal
Listen motherfucker, I've got a broken hand, swollen to the size of a catchers mitt, that needs to be elevated like 6 hours a day. Thats six hours a day sitting either in front of the computer or tv with it on top of a bunch of pillows. I have nothing but time asshole.
I bet we're going to become friends over the next six weeks.
Toodles bitch.
I've got a broken humorus (no joke). But please note that you really should read for comprehension. No where in this thread have I called for gun control. Perhaps it's the pain killers that are interrupting your brain functions ? Just trying to offer excuses for your rather poor skills in continuing discussions.Quote:
Originally Posted by leroy jenkins
http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/a...1&d=1207845312
OK, so I posted a pic of some big ass guns.
Now a question or two for the enthusiasts.
These aren't 'gun control' questions.
I'm just interested to know what's the motivation behind owning a bunch of assault weapons? (Lets not let this turn into a semantic argument, I'll say up front "I don't know shit about guns", but I know that some guns aren't for hunting or sport).
How often do you have the opportunity to go pop off some rounds? What does that cost you in ammo?
Is it a rush to fire them?
Are you blowing off steam?
Do you own them for protection? From?
Where did you guys get all the knowledge about these seemingly obscure models?
Not trying to shit on anyone's gun stoke, I'm just trying to understand some of my fellow Americans a little better. It seems like an expensive habit.
In Canada you need a special licence to own a handgun, and then you must be a curent member of a local shooting range. And it can only be in your possesion on the way to/from the range.Quote:
Originally Posted by leroy jenkins
And they must be locked(trigger/slide lock) in a locked case or safe in your home and during transport. And ammunition must be kept locked up in a different case.
Responses to a question or two for the enthusiasts.
I'm just interested to know what's the motivation behind owning a bunch of assault weapons? (Lets not let this turn into a semantic argument, I'll say up front "I don't know shit about guns", but I know that some guns aren't for hunting or sport).
Because I can and because they have risen in value substantially due to the constant threat of gun control from the liberals
How often do you have the opportunity to go pop off some rounds?
In the back yard, once every month or so. 2-3 big trips to the range a year.
What does that cost you in ammo?
Usually to take the MG's out, these days, depending on how many folks I take with me which is usually 3 or 4, about $300-$400 per big trip. Usually 1,000 rounds of .22, 500-700 9mm, 500 .223 ball, 80-100 .223 match, 500 in .45, 200 in .38 super. Plus various vegetables such as apples, cabbage heads, watermelons, etc.
Is it a rush to fire them?
Yep.
Are you blowing off steam?
Nope, just a hobby, like skiing.
Do you own them for protection? Some From? Liberals and other assorted thugs and douchbags
Where did you guys get all the knowledge about these seemingly obscure models?
Collect, study, books, internet, friends, RKI's
Not trying to shit on anyone's gun stoke, I'm just trying to understand some of my fellow Americans a little better. It seems like an expensive habit.
Yep
Thanks for the answers. +5.
-1 for gratuitous use of "liberal".
Lets keep this civil, you enthusiast you.
Ok First off, assault weapons is a term created by the media, "assault weapons" mean they can be fired in full auto.Quote:
Originally Posted by flowtron
Now, with semi auto rifles, there is really just difference in the "extras". The pics of my guns, the wooden rifle on the left fires the same round, and just as quickly as the rifle in the middle. They are both semi automatic rifles with detachable mags. All the other stuff is just little extras that some people want: the ability to put scopes/sights, lights, etc on a gun is something some people want. The "scary" looking stuff like adjustable stocks and pistol grips, just make guns more ergonomic and comfortable to shoot.
A lot of people hunt with what are popularly referred to as "assault rifles". Some people just like those types of guns.
The question of why someone owns guns is one that a lot of gun owners might be hard pressed to answer. Some use them for hunting, but for a lot, its just a combination of they're fun/i can/i hunt/protection from criminals/possible protection from tyranny someday/i just feel better owning one
Ammo is pricey, but it can be combated, some people reload their own rounds, and buying in bulk instead of at walmart helps a lot. I last paid about $.17 for 9mm, and about $.23/round for .223. You can get about 500 rounds of .22 for about $15.
As far as firing them, its not really about the rush, its more about focus, just like skiing. Thats another thing that keeps ammo costs down, is you're not just blasting away, you're aiming at stuff and trying to improve.
And about the model names, how do you remember all the different skis out there? It is an expensive hobby, but so is skiing. So are cigarettes.
What? ok, so what you're saying is that you have no valid point about gun control, you're just trying to be obnoxious?Quote:
Originally Posted by TruckeeLocal
Cool. Thanks for the straight answer Leroy.
I was honestly suprised by the amount of guns that came out of the woodwork in this thread and thought I'd do some asking.
Edit: I went to Bass Pro Shop for the first time in my life on Sunday. That place was crazy. I FAILED the shootin range.
flow, ill just add one little perspective here from a non-gun nut\enthusiast but from someone who does own a gun, not for protection or hunting, but just for sport
when I go to the range or somewhere to shoot, i feel the exact opposite of getting a rush or blowing off steam. for me its a really relaxing calm time where I can focus on my surroundings, ie pay attention to temperature, winds, pressure, etc. Imagine going to a nice spring meadow for a picnic where you just want to relax, have a beer, and enjoy the day. Thats kinda how I feel i guess.
target shooting in and of itself isnt a fast paced lets go fire off 1000 rounds of ammo. its a slow, methodical, and calculated sport in the sense that its not only about what load you're firing, trajectories, and what gun you have, but also in how you prepare yourself to shoot.
What im talking about here is to have some sort of physiological control over yourself to slow your heart rate, control your breathing, and find when is the most accurate time to pull the trigger to get repeatable and accurate results. You start to notice your heart beat and how much that moves the gun around and figure out overtime when is the best point for you to fire.
Similarly, you notice at what point in your controlled exhale you feel the most stable.
Its really very cool when you try to understand all the factors involved and then try to make the best of that. Ive been meaning to take my rifle out forever. If you want, you're invited when I do :)
Hell yeah Phil. Interesting take.
I'm down. I'll have to tell Nora I'm going to ride bikes tho.
no reason we cant do both
Homoerotic Overtones Enliven NRA Meeting
COEUR D'ALENE, ID—Repression was the order of the day as the National Rifle Association's North Idaho Chapter held its annual convention this weekend..
More than 25,000 dedicated gun lovers from across Northern Idaho flocked to the Coeur d'Alene Convention Center for the two-day event, happily sublimating homosexual impulses amid a carefully maintained facade of platonic camaraderie.
Moscow, ID, resident Richard Hoflinger, 47, a longtime gun-rights activist, proudly exhibited the collection of antique rifles through which he has channeled his culturally unacceptable impulses. "Guns should be part of any upstanding Christian family," Hoflinger said, sticking a long, thick, oily pipe-cleaner 14 inches up an 1886 Remington.
In the next booth, another latent gay man, Duane Erlich of Sandpoint, moved his hand slowly up and down a well-polished 1948 Winchester. "Ain't she a beautiful baby?" Erlich said, displaying the kind of feminization/infantilization of firearms for which NRA members are renowned.
Erlich then demonstrated the proper loading procedure for his "baby," lovingly inserting a pair of bullets into the dark, snug-fitting tunnels before thrusting the gun's bolt smoothly into the action, cocking it firmly.
"This'll blow a man straight to heaven," he said.
The tone of the event was set by chapter president John Henry Unger, whose opening remarks cited the "wonderful variety of weaponry on display, from little snub-nosed pieces that fit snugly in your pocket to big, meaty shooters with barrels as thick as your arm."
Unger then fired his father's prize Colt Peacemaker revolver into the air, drawing raucous applause from the crowd, many of whose own fathers had suppressed latent physical attraction for their adolescent sons by channeling their forbidden feelings into totemistic firearms.
All over the convention floor, gun manufacturers proudly unveiled new technologies which will allow simmering homoerotic tensions to be expressed with greater nuance than ever before. At the Smith & Wesson booth, company spokesman Darrell Trace displayed a handgun made from a newly developed metal alloy whose "incredibly hard" nature, he explained, gives it no recoil after discharge, providing its user with "a far greater sense of control over his piece."
"It's a very comfortable gun, very soft in the hands," added Trace, noting that Smith & Wesson had designed the gun to appeal to "shooters tired of coming home from the firing range with sore, worn-out wrists."
But even as conventioneers reveled in a two-day orgy of firearm-to-phallus transference, a dark cloud hung over the event. The NRA has declined in power over the last decade, and its once-potent lobbyists have come out on the losing end of key legislative battles like the Brady Bill, causing many members to bring their lifelong subconscious fears of castration to the fore.
"If the gun-control lobby wants my rod, they'll have to yank it from my dead body," said Pocatello-area bar-owner Joseph Greer, cradling a tell-tale snub-nosed revolver.
"Those guys out there in Washington are tryin' to take our guns away, but we ain't gonna let 'em," Greer continued, adding classic paternal displacement to the already-rich psychosexual tapestry. "No siree, Bob."
The # of guns in this country is staggering. I haven't heard any stats, but they're everywhere,Quote:
Originally Posted by flowtron
According to this decade old National Institute of Justice article - 200 million.Quote:
Originally Posted by leroy jenkins
Quote:
Originally Posted by TruckeeLocal
Thanks man, just made my day.
Only 35% of houses have guns in em though? That seems a little low.
I'm sure theres a whole lot of gun owners that just lied too:biggrin:
Maybe this country would be a better place if those same gun owners were more honest :redface:Quote:
Originally Posted by leroy jenkins
Why?Quote:
Originally Posted by TruckeeLocal
Nothing says you have to disclose that stuff.
How many of you guys Pack heat on the slopes?
Seriously, in my motorcycle forum, it is fucking staggering how many biker's carry pistol's under their jackets.
that's pretty much the only time i don't carry a firearm, as I feel relatively safe among maggots, gapers, lift operators, TJ Burke, and Dexter Rutecki.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cono Este
http://www.universalexports.net/Grap...ts/skipole.jpg
Nato 9 mm Leki