2020-2021 Gear Rumors / Pictures etc

Anyone heard anything about new airbags?

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Originally Posted by bluesbrother49

Alrighty guys, here's the details on the new Dynastar MLine:
MPro: directional, metal laminates, shape inspired by the Pro Rider 105 but with a touch of early rise. MPro 90, 99, and 105 (105 is the current Pro Rider with a new graphic, 192 only just like this year)
MFree: progressive, twin, shape inspired by the current Proto. MFree 108, 118
MTour: lightweight touring options using the MPro shape. MTour 99, 88.
They all use a new "hybrid core" which has been used in the Speed Zone skis, basically a PU milled composite with Poplar core. Very connected and smooth on snow feel.
Whole line was designed with the simple intention of choosing your model based on your ski style, and also how clean the Lange line has been (RS-technical/on trail, RX/LX-all mountain, XT: Tour) for shops to understand and sell.

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Looks like I want a MFree 108 and a MPro 90.

Are they going to sell the MPro105 in the US or it will it be a EU only option like the current Pro Rider?

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Originally Posted by nyskirat

Are they going to sell the MPro105 in the US or it will it be a EU only option like the current Pro Rider?

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I was going to ask the same question

Lengths:
MPro 105: 192 (yes, will be available in the US, limited like this year)
MPro 99: 170, 178, 186
MPro 90: 170, 178, 186
MFree 118: 180, 189
MFree 108: 172, 182, 192
MTour 99: 162, 170, 178, 186
Mtour 88: 156, 164, 172, 180

So no more legend series above the 88x, if at all, I assume?

Is the MTour going to be just a lighter version of the MPro or will it be an entirely different ski?

That MFree 108 is mighty appealing in a 192. Same with the MTour 99 and MPRo 90

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Originally Posted by nyskirat

So no more legend series above the 88x, if at all, I assume?

Is the MTour going to be just a lighter version of the MPro or will it be an entirely different ski?

That MFree 108 is mighty appealing in a 192. Same with the MTour 99 and MPRo 90

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Any turn radius info?

Turn radius on MTour 99?

Also reupping my request for info on F20 Mammut airbags, if anyone has seen that catalog.

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Originally Posted by bluesbrother49

Lengths:
MPro 105: 192 (yes, will be available in the US, limited like this year)
MPro 99: 170, 178, 186
MPro 90: 170, 178, 186
MFree 118: 180, 189
MFree 108: 172, 182, 192
MTour 99: 162, 170, 178, 186
Mtour 88: 156, 164, 172, 180

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Will you be doing another preorder round of the LP105 like last year then?

No more Legend, no more 5 point, totally new. Think Pro Rider for the MPro, Proto for the MFree as far as shape. MTour is same as MPro, just lighter.
Radius
MPro 99 186-22m, MPro 90 186-20m
MFree 108 192- 20m
Smaller radius for the smaller lengths, obviously.

That’s too bad on the no more 5 point. Was really hoping for a MPro x106. Metal, higher turn radius. The. X106 is such a fun ski but a beefy one would have been amazing.

M-pro 99 seems like the ski I've been wanting for quite a while. A bit bummed there's no 108 or 116 version but I'm sure if this line does well there will be more

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Originally Posted by bluesbrother49

No more Legend, no more 5 point, totally new. Think Pro Rider for the MPro, Proto for the MFree as far as shape. MTour is same as MPro, just lighter.
Radius
MPro 99 186-22m, MPro 90 186-20m
MFree 108 192- 20m
Smaller radius for the smaller lengths, obviously.

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Hnnnhhhhhh those all sound amazing.

Perhaps 3 new skis coming in next year....

MPro90 186 w/ CAST
MFree 108 192 w/ CAST
MTour 99 178 w/tech binder for longer missions.

That'll make it a Dynastar-heavy quiver...

2x LP105s, 1x Proto Factory, 1x MPro 90, 1x LFree 108, 1x LTour 99

Will the MPro across the board have metal in them as well?

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Originally Posted by nyskirat

Hnnnhhhhhh those all sound amazing.

Perhaps 3 new skis coming in next year....

MPro90 186 w/ CAST
MFree 108 192 w/ CAST
MTour 99 178 w/tech binder for longer missions.

That'll make it a Dynastar-heavy quiver...

2x LP105s, 1x Proto Factory, 1x MPro 90, 1x LFree 108, 1x LTour 99

Will the MPro across the board have metal in them as well?

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Yes, from what i've heard: mpro = metal, mfree = glass, mtour = carbon.

jackattack and I will both have 192 M-free 108 available for maggot pleasure.

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Originally Posted by bluesbrother49

Alrighty guys, here's the details on the new Dynastar MLine:
MPro: directional, metal laminates, shape inspired by the Pro Rider 105 but with a touch of early rise. MPro 90, 99, and 105 (105 is the current Pro Rider with a new graphic, 192 only just like this year)
MFree: progressive, twin, shape inspired by the current Proto. MFree 108, 118
MTour: lightweight touring options using the MPro shape. MTour 99, 88.
They all use a new "hybrid core" which has been used in the Speed Zone skis, basically a PU milled composite with Poplar core. Very connected and smooth on snow feel.
Whole line was designed with the simple intention of choosing your model based on your ski style, and also how clean the Lange line has been (RS-technical/on trail, RX/LX-all mountain, XT: Tour) for shops to understand and sell.

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Originally Posted by bluesbrother49

Lengths:
MPro 105: 192 (yes, will be available in the US, limited like this year)
MPro 99: 170, 178, 186
MPro 90: 170, 178, 186
MFree 118: 180, 189
MFree 108: 172, 182, 192
MTour 99: 162, 170, 178, 186
Mtour 88: 156, 164, 172, 180

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Originally Posted by bluesbrother49

No more Legend, no more 5 point, totally new. Think Pro Rider for the MPro, Proto for the MFree as far as shape. MTour is same as MPro, just lighter.
Radius
MPro 99 186-22m, MPro 90 186-20m
MFree 108 192- 20m
Smaller radius for the smaller lengths, obviously.

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Thanks

Impressive collection from Dynastar, lean but sensible.

I think folks will be pretty impressed with the M-Pro 99. I skied an iteration in the 178 and was pretty stoked on it. I’d articulate it as a modernized Legend Pro: rocker and taper in the tip; evolved construction, but still damp, stable and smooths out the crud.

The PU hybrid core is pretty noticeable.

I’m in for a preorder 105....


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Since we have the right peeps chiming in...how about the Lange XT3? Have they managed to beef up the spine and give it more rearward (and forward) support? I wouldn't mind if it gained some weight.

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Originally Posted by XavierD

I think folks will be pretty impressed with the M-Pro 99. I skied an iteration in the 178 and was pretty stoked on it. I’d articulate it as a modernized Legend Pro: rocker and taper in the tip; evolved construction, but still damp, stable and smooths out the crud.

The PU hybrid core is pretty noticeable.

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I'm excited for it. I love my LP105s but sometimes I don't want to be strapped for a ballistic missile.

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Originally Posted by nyskirat

I'm excited for it. I love my LP105s but sometimes I don't want to be strapped for a ballistic missile.

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this...

Found this French ski shops Facebook page, they have some nice videos of the new Dynastar skis. https://www.facebook.com/pg/labausport/videos/

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Originally Posted by noparking

anyone know of a change coming to the tecnica zero g shell? damn near the only touring boot that fits my foot and was going to pick up another pair to throw in the closet if they plan on changing it.

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Heard from a Tecnica athlete no changes to the Zero G Pro Tour, Scout, etc. any time soon. But next tradeshow season Tecnica will drop a <1kg segment AT boot. Which I'm stoked on considering they made the ZGTP less than 100g heavier than a TLT6M...

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Originally Posted by NorCalNomad

(sorry I'm too lazy to screen cap)
As is the Scarpa F1 LT :D
990g
Very first glace:
-EXACT same clog/ lower as the Alien RS, so BOA waiting to blow up
-Same walk mode lever (but not the all in one action as the RS)
-Cuff is a "beefier" version of the RS (external skeleton reinforcement look)
-F1 strap and a wimpy looking "power strap"

That Avametrix AvyScanner Avalanche Predictor device though :eek:... not sure what to think about that. Hopefully it's overly conservative and scares people out of the BC :FIREdevil...along with saving lives:o

Also again OR is giving out awards for "innovation" on stuff that's either been done before or is just a small step forward. Don't let anyone tell you that $ can't get you an ISPO or OR award.

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RS clog, with some tweaks to make it a bit more roomy. Walk mode lever is very beefy and as you note not single-motion.

No 105 in a 184 to 186? The 108 is a twin? Shame.

That Salomon boot looks really damn nice. Almost like that Fischer Ranger 130. Maybe it does have some good ramp angle? Is that an Alpine sole block?
Sorry, I can't change 30 years of muscle memory. I'm weird like that.

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Originally Posted by trogdortheburninator

RS clog, with some tweaks to make it a bit more roomy. Walk mode lever is very beefy and as you note not single-motion.

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Hope they put some better loctite on the nut and bolt that acts as the pivot for the walk lever. A buddies fell out up on Shasta, the heavy ass baling wire and Skeletool I keep in my repair kit finally came in handy! Especially since the F1 won't have the dyneema cord to act as a leash if the bolt comes out.