AND SUDDENLY IT IS CLEAR!
EDIT: I missed something. The Breck patrollers mentioned this to me but I didn't think it was the case, but apparently it was. Someone called to say there were 3 confirmed burials. It is even in the CAIC report. I didnt notice it the first time I read it.
This would certainly explain why I was told there were 3 buried when someone called to tell me about it. :wink:
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Originally Posted by CAIC
Confusion rose dramatically when some else reportedly called the Breckenridge Ski Patrol "confirming" 3 people were buried.
Well... just what do you expect to happen next?
Original party claims they are out of the field.
Someone else says there are three people buried (an entire group).
Tracks in, none out, two slides.
The course of action is CLEAR. You don't sit on your thumbs in that situation.
I kind of doubt this thread would have reached 1/3 of it's current length if I or someone else would have noticed this vital little fact early on.
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Originally Posted by tippster
Wll it truly doesn't matter which chute slid FIRST or SECOND, because the bottom line is there was only ONE slide with tracks anywhere, and there happened to be three of them, and there were three people calling in saying "we're fine" and they repeated said phonecall 2 more times...
If they triggered a slide, said they were OK, maybe they didnt put tracks into it (IE the first one).
The second message wasn't passed apparently, this is what has been said, so the people in charge didn't know the group called after the second slide, which did have tracks in, none out. SOP happens next, especially after the confirmed burial call.
I spoke with a couple of Breck patrollers today. They thought it was the right move based ont he available information.
You need to seriously reread some posts here becaus you are missing something even without the newly noted info because even Cmsummit thinks SAR made the correct decsision based on the information they had.
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Originally Posted by cmsummit
As far as I'm concerned SAR did the right thing giving the information they received from Copper Mtn. Ski Patrol.
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Originally Posted by Tippster
How exactly do you spell "Budget Justification" and "Media Whoring" again?
Your characterization of SAR as glory seekers trying to justify their existance is completely wrong. You make it sound like SAR *wanted* to have that mission. Nothing could be further from the truth. If you think I sit around hoping my pager is going to go off, you are dead wrong. A string of profanity is the first thing out of my mouth when it goes off because it means bad things are happening.
If you are accusing SAR of media whoring you have no clue. For example, the guy who did virtually all the talking to the media at the March 24, Quandry slide was from the FIRE DEPARTMENT (he was assigned this role by SAR) and some people from the SO. Some FDs around here have two full time paid Public Information Officers. SAR's only (and volunteer) public information officer chose to go into the field that mission, not talk with the press.
The SKY mission probably cost SAR a good deal of money, which comes primarily from donations at fundraisers and from grants, not a being a budget item. Also, its not exactly good for morale, something very important in a volunteer organization, to always end up dropping everything for a mission that turns out to be bunk. You seem to think they were all stoked to go stand around a parking lot for a few hours... while better than going after bodies, it sucks for people who lost a ski day or income when they had to leave work. SAR gets lots of missions, far far more than they want (0). Nobody wants to be chasing ghosts OR bodies. If you ask anyone on SAR, they would emphatically tell you how much they would have preffered it if there had been sufficient information for the mission not to have happened at all!!!!!
Are you going to accuse Flight For Life and Breck Ski Patrol as well? They were there. How about CAIC?
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Originally Posted by YetiMan
I find it offensive that anybody would be annoyed that cmsummit and his partners were functioning self-sufficiently and not in need of assistance rather than buried/hurt/dead.
NOBODY was annoyed by this. Everyone on SAR was quite relieved that they were OK, that nobody was buried, injuried, or killed, and that nobody had to go into field. Anyone on SAR will tell you the best day you can have is when *everyone* is alive and well and gets to go home at the end of the day.
