Think about what happens after the mouse gets stuck. Something like this:
It doesn't just sit there. It struggles. Violently... but the glue is way too strong, so it pretty much maims itself. I don't know about you, but I'd rather have my fingernails pulled out than having my bones broken and skin ripped off trying to escape, then dying slowly of dehydration/starvation in someone's garbage can.
Way to miss the point. What I meant was the actual death of the mouse. On a glue trap there's the possibility it can escape, and infest someone else's house. If the job is done, then you are doing the community a service.
Didn't say that. But I'd hazard a guess that assuming a hell exists, people who torture animals to death intentionally will be welcome with open arms.
No trap is 100% effective but at least they're designed in mind to kill the animal instantaneously, rather than starving it to death in glue. That the trap instructions tell people to throw a live, stuck, mouse into the garbage along with trap says it all really. Fuckin' wrong.
When I kill something, I do it as swiftly as possible where possible. To do otherwise when the option is there to do the former, just doesn't sit right with me. If you want to ignore the morality of glue traps because you "don't give a shit", then there are practical reasons against it too.
I think glue traps are evil and the people who use them are fucking retards. How's that sound?
sweet PETA.org blog, Gavin.
01-11-2009, 09:58 AM
spanghew
I have as much schadenfreude as the next person when it comes to killing rats (they're all rats: squirrels and chipmunks are just rats with PR agents, and mice are just small rats), but i don't like those glue traps, either (plus the deer mice seem to have little trouble extricating themselves).
Snap traps work; it's just a matter of good baiting and good placement. One kid working for me took to super-gluing peanuts to the flapper, and that worked great.
But prevention is really the most sensible approach. It's hard to mouseproof a house, but it's not impossible: quarter-inch mesh screen, steel wool, flashing and persistence suffice. Most often, after good hole-blocking steps have been taken, and once people realize you can't leave attractive nuisances (food scraps) lying around to coax the mice in (they have only one job, and they work very persistently at it), the biggest cause of rodent infestations is doors left open. Mice know where the biggest point of ingress is, and they know to keep an eye on it and to wait near it. If you leave your doors open, you'll have rats.
At a high ski hut up in the Purcells, the owner hated rats, so invented a great trap. A five-gallon bucket with a clotheshanger axle above it, and a beer can spinning on the axle and peanut butter smeared on the can. I think he even built a ramp up close to the can. The mouse jumps on the can to get the peanut butter, the can rolls, the mouse falls into the bucket . . . which is half full of anti-freeze. Rat dies. homeowner cackles.
01-11-2009, 02:11 PM
Downbound Train
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Originally Posted by Rontele
this man speaks the troof. We replaced snap traps yesterday with some stickeys and found a barely dead mouse stuck to one...
Since this is war, I did not do the fucker the pleasure of killing him, but just placed him in the dumpster in the alley. Believe me, no emo unicorn tears were shed over this one.
VINDICATION....Congrats on the killage. Lock & Load the Skippy Baby :yourock:
01-11-2009, 03:16 PM
Chainsaw_Willie
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Originally Posted by Rontele
this man speaks the troof. We replaced snap traps yesterday with some stickeys and found a barely dead mouse stuck to one...
Since this is war, I did not do the fucker the pleasure of killing him, but just placed him in the dumpster in the alley. Believe me, no emo unicorn tears were shed over this one.
That's my boy! ;):FIREdevil
01-11-2009, 03:19 PM
truth
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Originally Posted by Rontele
this man speaks the troof. We replaced snap traps yesterday with some stickeys and found a barely dead mouse stuck to one...
Since this is war, I did not do the fucker the pleasure of killing him, but just placed him in the dumpster in the alley. Believe me, no emo unicorn tears were shed over this one.
Weak sauce. Not putting it out of it's misery just means you're a pussy.
01-11-2009, 03:25 PM
Chainsaw_Willie
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Originally Posted by GavinB
Way to miss the point.
Way to not be able to write coherently.
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Originally Posted by GavinB
Didn't say that.
Yes you did:
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Originally Posted by GavinB
People who use glue traps will go to hell.
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Originally Posted by GavinB
When I kill something, I do it as swiftly as possible where possible.
Nice weasel clause.
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Originally Posted by GavinB
I think glue traps are evil and the people who use them are fucking retards. How's that sound?
Now my feelings are hurt.
01-11-2009, 03:30 PM
Downbound Train
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Originally Posted by truth
Weak sauce. Not putting it out of it's misery just means you're a pussy.
Weak sauce - No
It's a good idea to kill them though cuz once in awhile they can struggle free. Put the whole trap in a zip-loc bag or baggie and squeeze the air out and they go quick.
01-11-2009, 04:32 PM
Viva
^ Breaking their necks is even quickerer.
01-11-2009, 04:40 PM
TROLL-HOLE-E-O
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Originally Posted by Viva
^ Breaking their necks is even quickerer.
Yes, but then your neck breaking apparatus gets stuck in the sticky shit and you end up flailing around in sticky shit with the mouse trying to extract the apparatus....
Plus if you get too aggressive breaking the neck, you can get squirted with guts.
01-11-2009, 05:29 PM
cramer
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Originally Posted by iceman
They only "work better" for pussies who are afraid of the snap traps...welcome to the intersection of Faggot St. and the Pussy Highway, you loser.
hehe...
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Originally Posted by Rontele
this man speaks the troof. We replaced snap traps yesterday with some stickeys and found a barely dead mouse stuck to one...
Since this is war, I did not do the fucker the pleasure of killing him, but just placed him in the dumpster in the alley. Believe me, no emo unicorn tears were shed over this one.
I was ready to switch over to snap traps since ice giving me so much shit. Ill stick to the sticky's, :fuckyou: ice! :biggrin:
01-11-2009, 05:34 PM
Rontele
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Originally Posted by truth
Weak sauce. Not putting it out of it's misery just means you're a pussy.
It was minutes from dying.
01-11-2009, 05:59 PM
iceman
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Originally Posted by cramer
hehe...
I was ready to switch over to snap traps since ice giving me so much shit. Ill stick to the sticky's, :fuckyou: ice! :biggrin:
heh, well at least you have a sense of humor. You kill your mice your way, I'll kill my mice my way, and we'll kill some beers any way that works if we meet.
(ya fuckin' torturer!)
01-11-2009, 06:03 PM
Hugh Conway
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Originally Posted by Rontele
It was minutes from dying.
saw you naked, eh?
01-11-2009, 11:08 PM
G
I just tried out a glue trap last week. I will not be using any more glue traps.
I placed the tray in my cupboard and caught the mouse on the first night. I awake the next morning to the mess of a mouse in my food closet that has sprayed shit and piss all around the inside of the cupboard, and made a nice little pool of blood where he tried to chew off his legs in escape.
01-11-2009, 11:16 PM
iceman
I mean, they're fucking nasty, right?
01-11-2009, 11:29 PM
brice618
That sounds rough, I'm still a fan of the cat / well placed and baited spring traps.
Though, the bucket with the peanut butter sounds like fun.
01-12-2009, 01:23 AM
carvedog
Kill mice. Don't torture. Better to put them in the bag and smash their head than asphyxiation. As much as I hate mice I wouldn't wish that on anyone.
Small instant of suffering for them and its over. They're doing their job and well.....we kill them for it. And then they make movies like Ratatoiulle to try to brainwash kids about what cute, misunderstood little guys they are.
I turn into a Terminator when it comes to killing mice. Is it bad form to drop a metal can full of water onto them ( in the garbage can when they fall through the recycled super market garbage bag ) and then still recycle the can?
01-12-2009, 05:53 AM
GavinB
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Originally Posted by Chainsaw_Willie
Yes you did:
Glue traps torture them, though. I never said anything about going to hell to kill them, heck, I already said that killing is necessary. But not torture. Nope. That's just flat out wrong.
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Originally Posted by Rontele
It was minutes from dying.
How do you know?
I don't see why people would casually just take a glue trap with a live, stuck mammal on it and simply throw it away like that without killing it. Killing it would be the right thing to do; there's no reason to make it suffer like that. You're essentially torturing it. Fucker. No excuses at all, cos you could've just put it out of its misery. But you probably didn't have the stones to kill it directly anyway, probably just threw it away and pretended it would die quickly. Out of sight, out of mind eh?
You're such a coward.
Plus, it could escape and re-infest your house.
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Since this is war
LOL. In war, you kill your enemy. There's no reason to stick him in superglue and make him starve to death. Unless you're a freakin' sadist... or a interrogator trying to extract information.
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sweet PETA.org blog, Gavin.
PETA can lick my balls for all I care, the hypocritical retards. You know I'm right.
01-12-2009, 07:32 AM
spanghew
x-posted from the ttips euthanasia thread:
It's the same with men
As with horses and dogs
Nothing wants to die
--Tom Waites
01-12-2009, 08:05 AM
Rontele
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Originally Posted by GavinB
Glue traps torture them, though. I never said anything about going to hell to kill them, heck, I already said that killing is necessary. But not torture. Nope. That's just flat out wrong.
How do you know?
I don't see why people would casually just take a glue trap with a live, stuck mammal on it and simply throw it away like that without killing it. Killing it would be the right thing to do; there's no reason to make it suffer like that. You're essentially torturing it. Fucker. No excuses at all, cos you could've just put it out of its misery. But you probably didn't have the stones to kill it directly anyway, probably just threw it away and pretended it would die quickly. Out of sight, out of mind eh?
You're such a coward.
Plus, it could escape and re-infest your house.
LOL. In war, you kill your enemy. There's no reason to stick him in superglue and make him starve to death. Unless you're a freakin' sadist... or a interrogator trying to extract information.
PETA can lick my balls for all I care, the hypocritical retards. You know I'm right.
Its dead now, dipshit. Game over. No new carnage to report this morning.
01-12-2009, 07:10 PM
GavinB
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Originally Posted by Rontele
Its dead now, dipshit. Game over. No new carnage to report this morning.
Hopefully you got something from that mouse which will prevent you from eating much for the next few days while someone breaks your legs, and decides to use your belly skin for a pillow casing.
That'll be half the pain that animal would've gone through just because you were too fucking irresponsible and inhumane to actually kill it yourself.
01-12-2009, 07:59 PM
Viva
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Originally Posted by GavinB
That'll be half the pain that animal would've gone through just because you were too fucking irresponsible and inhumane to actually kill it yourself.
You're seriously fucked in the head.
Nature's cruel.
I don't advocate letting the little fucks suffer, but then again, can't say that I really care.
God is on my side.
01-12-2009, 08:06 PM
Tippster
Maybe the squeaking gnawing thrashing stuff will warn off his buddies and get them to leave my parlor of torture?
01-12-2009, 08:50 PM
cramer
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Originally Posted by Tippster
Maybe the squeaking gnawing thrashing stuff will warn off his buddies and get them to leave my parlor of torture?
doubt it, i came home to 2 on one sticky. one dead, one still trying to get out. I think they actually come and try and help. 1 trap, 2 mice. money well spent. What better bait than mommy or daddy mouse squealing away.
01-12-2009, 08:59 PM
Viva
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Originally Posted by cramer
I think they actually come and try and help.
No. Mice won't take such actions. Rats might, but not mouskers.
Think about what happens after the mouse gets stuck. Something like this: