I admittedly ski out east, but use the 184 102ti as my daily driver - love it's versatility on hardpack in all turn shapes and it's not at all demanding in the bumps or trees, can hold a carve except on true ice, but makes any stashes (natural or manmade) so much fun, has whatever addictive aspect of the ON3P bamboo core combination of poppy but stable. The only time I find myself reaching for something else is pure ice after a refreeze or powder. For reference, I love the Jeffery 116s in powder (BGs if it's a true 3D snow day), so it's not like I'm the traditional Wren hard charger who only makes big turns. I just find myself coming back to them every time I try something else 80-90% of the out days out east.