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Anyone checked/been out on the Nordica Unlimited LT? Seems like with a couple of obvious refinements for weight (liner, buckles, sole), it'd be very competitive in terms of weight with the ZGTP. Stated weight is 1480g (shrug); I imagine with those refinements, could easily drop 100g. Curious how it performs in the usual light beef touring boot criteria.
Noticed Technica is providing a bit more information about the updates to the 2025 model on the gram: https://www.instagram.com/p/C2ctva2s...Zub2kyM2xvcncy
" We’ve taken this beloved boot and given it every upgrade we can find while removing 100 grams of weight per boot. New buckles, hike-ski mechanism, hinge points, liner, cuff, instep and toe box make it the best it’s ever been. Keep an eye out for local pros and ambassadors testing prototypes all winter long, and find your pair when it’s time to prepare for the 2024-5 season. "
'New toe box' maybe is the fit change they refer to? I'm all for a spacious toe box. That's not where the performance comes from imo
I’m super interested in this comparison. There is a thread with 1 data point.Quote:
Originally Posted by dub_xion
Per blister: All the Zero G Tour boots feature a tweaked instep design; it’s now reportedly higher and features more of Tecnica’s softer “Quick-Instep” material. The goal there is to make them easier to get in / out of, and more comfortable (particularly for people with higher insteps).
And: The updated Zero G Tour boots also feature a new last shape. Specifically, Tecnica says the new shape “addresses fit issues from the previous iteration, including the sixth toe and arch support zones, improving both while maintaining the ability to make additional customizations with C.A.S.”
https://blisterreview.com/ski-boot-r...o-g-tour-boots
Fuck all of you who complain about them being hard to get on. Learn to put on a boot
You should have seen the 70 year old women who I was boot fitting the other day try to put the Zero G on. I thought she might have a heart attack lolQuote:
Originally Posted by mr_pretzel
I have pretty a aggro instep, but I can shimmy my way in to my race-fit alpine boots with zipfits pretty easily.
A size larger ZGTP had me nearly pop an o-ring trying to step in on a cold morning in the parking lot.
It's been a few decades, so I can't recall for certain, but, I believe I temporarily fixed some ovalization of the cuff at the rivet by filling the gap with ptex using a ptex gun. Pretty sure it was on a pair of Dynafit All Terrains.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blaster
In another boot (again beyond memory of specifics) I think I unscrewed the cuff rivet and shoved some ziptie plastic into the ovalization of the hole in the scaffo...mighta been on a pair of mango era Scarpa Maestrales.
Both options offered a de facto cuff alignment system...worked good for my bow leggedness, iirc.
@ gregL I got a brand new pair of orange tour pro.
Do I need to change the fwdlean?
I tried to open one screw and brutally failed?
Any advice?
The screws have loctite, hit em with a soldering iron first.Quote:
Originally Posted by twat
If you don’t have a soldering iron, blasting a screwdriver with a blowtorch and then holding the screwdriver in the screw worked well for me.
For me using a wrap liner (Scarpa Precision High) makes this boot ski very close to the Cochise. Tour Wrap is kinda short=harsh. Stock tongue liner is harsh, and I get too much cuff lag. Also way easier to don/remove boot with the wrap liner.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andyski
User name checks out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blaster
They are notoriously hard to remove; heat helps but you often end of stripping the screws - we try to have an extra set of the backers and extra screws around in case you have to drill the heads of the screws out. FWIW, flipping the inner chip to change one degree (I think it's less) is barely perceptible to most people.Quote:
Originally Posted by twat
Can confirm the one degree is not worth the hassle. Optimistic about the raide upgrade, we'll see.
It works wellQuote:
Originally Posted by griffinmyers
So you end up at 16 degrees? For $100?Quote:
Originally Posted by mr_pretzel
Join the crowd. As someone who regularly gets into LV Langes despite my high instep (hey 30 yrs of experience getting on boots helps), I was shocked at how difficult the Zero G was to get on (demo day van had let the boots get cold). But asked around and realized the zero G fans I know admit they use boot warmers or a flamethrower to get them on. For overnights in tents or truck beds, the pro tip is to sleep with them on apparently ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Bamski
I didnt say it was cost effective :fm:Quote:
Originally Posted by gregL
Thanks guys for all the info. Gonna leave it as it is for now. I am going to use all your attention. I am working out the fit.
Heel shims. 2mm 4mm 6mm. ??? I could use 6, but how much performance will I loose compèred to a lower one.
Super easy with a wrap liner [emoji6]Quote:
Originally Posted by frorider
When I used the ZGTP a lot for both lift-served and touring, I used a Lange WC shim in back of the cuff. Glued some Velcro "fuzz" on the liner but usually just put them in while going downhill. TBH an equal number of people seem to want less forward lean (at least until I point out that their Dynafit Rotations (or other tech bindings that aren't race bindings) have way more inherent delta and they might look into shimming under their toepieces).Quote:
Originally Posted by mr_pretzel
I’ve got the WC shim in there too of course haha. I get people like different stances, so that’s what’s great about the raide piece, it just seems like more people ask about getting more lean in the ZGPT than other boots, but that might be because they ski so well so people want more.Quote:
Originally Posted by gregL
Cheers guys. I will stop splitting hair and start skiing it.