It seems like the website allows anyone to put ideas onto the map feature, they aren't official proposals by any means. I got riled up for a bit too before I realized that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boissal
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It seems like the website allows anyone to put ideas onto the map feature, they aren't official proposals by any means. I got riled up for a bit too before I realized that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boissal
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Originally Posted by Boissal
WTF is this BS...these people need to GTFO. Also notice they have a popular "user created" trail marked on their map up at guardsman zone. Why cant people just leave shit alone. Fuuuuug. Please dislike the Honeycomb Canyon and Beartrap re-routes.
If theres one place in the Wasatch that needs the least amount of trail work its upper BCC...its perfect the way it is...IMO ...leave it alone.
I think it would be appropriate to reroute the very top of Honey. Its just a straight drainage ditch at this point. Few turns the first 300 yards or something like the top of knuckle.
Agreed, this all seems like a very early list of outlandish wishes from hikers. The request for a bike-only alternative to the LCC quarry trail is telling (not that it wouldn't be awesome but the likelihood if it happening within 50' of the creek to appease neighborhood walkers is essentially 0).Quote:
Originally Posted by Benneke10
It's still annoying to see some sanitation requests from hikers though, if I can clear the majority of LazyPrince on the bike there's no fucking reason it needs to be made easier for people on foot. It's a traverse, how dumb would you have to be to roll off it on it? And erosion control up there? There are 15' deep gullies crossing that trail, not much is going to be done about those... Same goes for upper Silver, it's funny to see concerns about erosion when the whole trail system is snaking its way into mine tailings.
The beauty of upper BCC trails is that they're not bike trails, and for the most part not purpose-built hiking trails either, just utilitarian paths that turn into eroded ruts straight down the fall line. The entrance to Beartrap is fun to ride in a perverse way, it keeps you on your toes and reminds you what traction is (or isn't). I love the middle section of that trail but it never provides me with oh-shit moments the the way the top does. Same for the top of Honey, the techy rocks into loose off camber steeps will force you to up your game or get off the bike and are a good prep for the rock garden.
It's nice to have some burly trails about, even if the flavor is not BC-type burly with beautiful dirt and amazing features. Wasatch-burly is scrappy as fuck, it doesn't look like much but it will shank you and still your beer money if you're not paying attention.
Also weird to see some requests to legitimize unsanctioned trails, those have to come from bikers. The stuff from Tanners to the ruins and from WP to Tanners has created enough issues BITD that it's better left on the DL, even though it's not exactly a secret at this point.
I've seen a system like this used by the Forest Service to compile comments a couple times now. I actually like it, since you can add comments of your own right next to other people's lame comments and explain why the idea is stupid.
IDK, there's even multiple requests to legitimize and improve ridgeline routes and other unsanctioned trails that are strictly foot routes. JFC, being unsanctioned and raw is what makes them great and keeps them uncrowded. There's even suggestions to re-route the Alexander Basin trail. These people need to be slapped. Crowdsourcing trail ideas in the Wasatch is incomprehensibly stupid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boissal
Hopefully not too much gets sacrificed on the altar of sustainability. A short but fun portion of Ferguson canyon was re-routed recently to accommodate grade requirements for a portion of BST that doesn't even allow bikes. Assume nothing is safe.
here we go again...
cliff notes:
The Tri-Canyon Trails Master Plan is the trail plan for Little Cottonwood, Big Cottonwood, and Millcreek Canyons. Salt Lake County and the Forest Service are partnering to identify opportunities to protect watershed and ecosystem health while providing diverse recreation opportunities.
taken from the tri-canyons trail website public meetings are listed below...
Public Listening Session #1
Wednesday, January 11, 2023
6:00 pm - Doors Open
6:30 pm - Presentation
The County Library | Viridian Event Center
8030 South 1825 West
West Jordan, Utah 84088
Public Listening Session #2
Thursday, January, 26, 2023
6:00 pm - Doors Open
6:30 pm - Presentation
Wheeler Historic Farm, Activity Barn
6351 South 900 East
Murray, Utah 84121
Public Listening Session #3
Monday, February 6, 2023
6:00 pm - Doors Open
6:30 pm - Presentation
The County Library | Millcreek
2266 East Evergreen Avenue
Millcreek, Utah 84109
Based on past experiences I have zero faith anything good will come out of this:rolleyes:
Anyone here on the MTBenthusiasts facebook group? Might be a good idea to post about this and the https://www.tricanyontrails.org/ link there and the above meeting dates and times to raise some awareness....I may try to attend one of them
Already posted it to that fucking cesspool.Quote:
Originally Posted by mar123
haha....thanks for posting this info here and there!Quote:
Originally Posted by Touring_Sedan
Shhhhhhhhhh!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Meconium
This is something I was sniffing out last fall, I have this exact line plotted and I walked it once. The ridge traverse is a bitch but doable with some HAB (absolutely not a deal breaker in my world). Definitely some great potential for hilarious steeps where you have the switchbacks. Depending on how the spring shapes up it may or may not become a reality.
Went to the Jem trail network for the first time on Tuesday. It was too wet off the first ridge, but good after that. Of course this storm may have changed everything. It was good to not ride the trainer, but if I'm driving, I'd rather do Moab stuff than that. Just too many campers with quad's packed into any wide spot in the road making it a little less scenic. If your down there, then probably worth it, but not a destination I would travel for exclusively. Of course I've had people telling me about 50 other places down there since.
This guy is clearly unhinged, but he's not wrong: https://www.ksl.com/article/50584235...ugs-police-say
The possession with intent to distribute charges seem like BS considering all they found was an undisclosed and likely small quantity of edibles.
I wouldn't suggest basing your opinion of the areas riding on one visit to the Jem Trails.Quote:
Originally Posted by Canada1
I went there based on you tube, and proximity to Zion where we had some stuff going on. The trails themself were good. Fast flow and kind of rolling terrain. If you built them, my thoughts weren’t about the build. It was the ancillary camping and piles of burned tires and stuff. Hell, we fit in 20 miles and mostly beat the storm going home. I’ve also heard that there is a lot of stuff that is less impacted if I just drove 15 more minutes. I was flying blind and desperate to spin the cranks. We had fun and came back to hip deep powder.Quote:
Originally Posted by raisingarizona13
anyone have conditions on the white rim? I'm not finding anything current with my poor internet skills, but want to go hit is next week.
@jaredinouye on insta did it last week. Might be worth reaching out there.
Thanks. I’ve reached out through another medium as I’m not on instagram. I don’t want to fight mud on what for me is already a long day.Quote:
Originally Posted by tBatt
Everything down there is going to be muddy for weeks, I think. Just call up the ranger station that gives out permits and ask though. Shafer road is closed right now, not sure if that means to cars only.
I'm an idiot and accidentally bought a rotor that I don't need, anyone need a brand new sram centerline rounded 6 bolt, 160mm? (free), or trade for a new in package 180?
It's going to be a short alpine season this year.
Right? First Crest for me last year was June 14, first Brighton shenanigans a week later. I'd be shocked if any of that stuff opened up even a month later this season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dantheman
Same for the Uintas or anything up high...
I remember the Castle Loop being ridable for only about 3 weeks in 2011 (I think that was the year?) before it snowed again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dantheman
Last year on this date.
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^^ Was out there same day last year and went to check out Draper Cycle Park and I-street after skiing in the morning, and lunch outside on a deck. Quite the change this year
We've spent the last few weekends sledding the slope above the Peak view parking lot.
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Rode white rim on Saturday. It is in as good of shape as I have encountered. Sand on north end was rideable, and climbs had as little 4WD tire spin as I’ve encountered. I also found that my trainer work is not the same as riding!! That last twenty hurt.
With all this snow, the lack of Foothills Master plan will be interesting.
Might be more prominent then the COVID foot social trails. Would be more appropriate if the contagion spreads from ground zero and infects other bench elevations.
BST capillaries.
I like it! Long live the early/late season foothills shenanigans, on designated trails or not!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Meconium
Anyone here know how to rebuild a Reverb? Mine has a CM of play and Salt Cycles is 3 weeks out on rebuilds, of course I'm trying to ride tomorrow night
Step 1:Quote:
Originally Posted by Yukonrider
Fedex overnight a pnw, oneup, or brand x, etc
Step 2:
Stand over trashcan with reverb
Step 3:
Question your luck that it's just gotten bad
Step 4:
Throw out reverb
Step 5:
install a cable actuated dropper and not worry about it...
^^ Friends don't let friends bleed dropper posts!!
I got a revive w/ my new Stumpjumper and seems like it's a pretty slick option with the air burb/bleed port. Another one to consider.
Generally I've found it's nice to have an extra floating around if you ride often, ymmv.
Yes I can add this to my pile of broken dropper posts.
Any ideas where I can go to get this rebuilt like... today?
Had some suspension work done at Go Ride in Draper a couple of weeks ago. Turnaround was one day.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yukonrider
I didn't know there were two, I'll call the Draper one in the morning. Thank you!Quote:
Originally Posted by Touring_Sedan
Alternatively, if you own a rock shock bleed kit, you can get a rebuild kit and do it your self. You tube has step by step videos. I had one of these on one of my kids bikes and spent two years doing bleeds and rebuilds until I got upset enough to just get a PNW.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yukonrider
If you have the tools it's a 1.5 hour process. The bleed is a 20 minute process. These times are including my gapper factor. Go Ride and backcountry had the kits back when I still had that POS. You need the two syringe set up.
I believe I have everything you need for the bleed minus fluid if you'd like to borrow it, I'm in sugarhouse, leaving for AZ for a week tomorrow morning, but free most of the day today.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnIss2fOn3k
A bleed isn’t gonna fix the ‘death drop’ . The seat post needs a rebuild and IFP reset - unless you have a newer model with the Vent Valve.
I recommend replacement.
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It is AXS, so the newest model?
Going to Go-Ride now, Phall if they can't do it I'll reach out. I'm sure I can turn up a rebuild kit and some fluid
If it’s AXS it’s got the vent valve. You just need the tool.
https://youtu.be/mDJh_TFK_sY
I hereby rescind my replacement reco. The AXS Reverb kicks ass.
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