Recommended Skis & Bindings List

10- titan pro / Squad (280+)
9 - supa stiff bros / capital stiffs (270)
8 - LP / Monster / explosiv / dp #3 (260)
7 - big daddy / stockli dp (250)
6 - ANT / extra stiff kingswood / stiff bros
5 - mantra / ak swallowtail / dp #2 (240)
4 - gotama / soft bros / reg. kingswood (230)
3 - yellow ak rockets / sugar daddy ?
2 - PR / lawnchair (200 or less)
1 - sanouk/made'n
0 - green ak rockets

the ANT and the KW extra is about the same flex (ski'd the ants, flexed the KW;s extensivly). i thought my stiff bros were stiffer than my ANTS, but i may have had some stiff ass stiffsm stiff bros dropped...

LP dropped down to 8.

supermojo removed. though i do think it is a little softer, after skiing them back to back on runs, it really isnt that obvious.

sugar stiffer than PR, softer than gotama?

I was gonna ask for the dp/capital flex rating. That looks perfect. Thanks!

The sugar\heli is a funky ski to rate. Imo, pretty stiff in the tail and a very soft tip. Based off hand flexing the gotama and skiing the heli, Id think the sugar would be gotamaish. Id say Helis definitely ski PR tip with Mantra Tail/Wasit.

edit: it made no sense before

Ya, the mid and tail section of the Sugar are actually fairly stout, but the tip is softish. I haven't skied the mantra or Goat so don't know how it compares, but my guess is its somewhere in that ball park. The first generation also skied stiffer with the big plate than the later flat one's.

where do the mojo 90s fit in that list marshal?

I own the mojos Dug. They hand flex a TAD stiffer than the mantras all over. I would probably say throw them infront of the mantras as they probably arent ANT\Stiff Bro like, although Ive never had a chance to feel those.

On top of the ski, its your basic head, or so Ive been told. Wood core feel with a little more damp feeling than the volkl exploders I have. Personally if I have to ski bumps with anything in my quiver, these are the ones Id want to be on so they cant be that stiff...

people, let's not lose site of the purpose of the list (to give a basic feel for popular skis for broader comparison) by trying to put every ski ever on it.

Not saying anyone is...just a warning cause I think Marshal's starting to rejigger it too much.

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Originally Posted by lemon boy

people, let's not lose site of the purpose of the list (to give a basic feel for popular skis for broader comparison) by trying to put every ski ever on it.

Not saying anyone is...just a warning cause I think Marshal's starting to rejigger it too much.

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yup. done.

FWIW I've had 4 pairs of 183 M103s and they have had wildly differing flexes ranging from Exploder stiffness to redonkulous superhero stiffness.

Also, AFAIK K2 AK Launcher aka/= K2 Mt Baker.

Awesome list, awesome work.

PS Linkens. Yeah, baby, yeah. :cool:

on the flex list, where do prophets come in? i heard there not as soft as people say. great list by the way.

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Originally Posted by FREESKIER_FIVE-0

where do prophets come in?

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the garbage can?

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Originally Posted by marshalolson

the garbage can?

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do u not like the prophets?

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Originally Posted by FREESKIER_FIVE-0

do u not like the prophets?

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sounds like he likes them just fine
so long as theyre in the trash

why is that? i havent rode them but im thinkin of pickin up a pair. tell me what u think of 'em.

why don't you go to the first post of this thread and instead look to skis on the RECOMMENDED LIST?
DUH!

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Originally Posted by lemon boy

why don't you go to the first post of this thread and instead look to skis on the RECOMMENDED LIST?
DUH!

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i did just that, and u know what i found? Line Prophets on the fat skis list. excuse me for being a JONG but i think that list is on the recommended list.

you may want to tune the sarcasm meter to high.

anyhow, i'd say that unless you want a super fat twin specifically for riding pow switch, or are getting them for super super cheap, there are many better options out there. just my .02

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Originally Posted by marshalolson

you may want to tune the sarcasm meter to high.

anyhow, i'd say that unless you want a super fat twin specifically for riding pow switch, or are getting them for super super cheap, there are many better options out there. just my .02

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High? Shit, just flip that baby on!

flame bigs/arnos are 84mm.

and why doesnt this thread have a sticky?
someone hook it up

BTW, the igneous link is spelled incorrectly. This thread is getting my all excited for some new skis. I'm drawing ever closer to the jefes. for working two days, and taking care of my dog for 3 days, I have $140. sweetness.

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BTW, the igneous link is spelled incorrectly. This thread is getting my all excited for some new skis. I'm drawing ever closer to the jefes. for working two days, and taking care of my dog for 3 days, I have $140. sweetness.

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whaaaaaaaaat?!?! Dudeman, go get a real job, 40 hrs a week minimum. This is summer, work yer ass off and cruise through the winter! No expenses, you could have whatever skis you want for next season...

I'm a dishwasher. $8/hr. That's where the $100 came from, then $40 for the dog. Working all summer long as much as possible, and then splurging on a plethora of new skis is the plan. Although 2 skis might not be considered a plethora, its still good.

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I'm a dishwasher. Thats where the $100 came from, then $40 for the dog.

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As long as you have those Jefe's in your paws by opening day, it's all good.

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As long as you have those Jefe's in your paws by opening day, it's all good.

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he best have them by then. on3p needs funding :cool:

Adam - you are only $490 away!! (as I've said a few times, you pay shipping now and I will get them to you so you can have some more inspiration)

probably i've just missed something so apologies beforehand, but i'd be interested to know why pontoons are on the "not recommended" list. got mostly rave reviews from the maggots who've tried them. i've seen 1 pair being sold in gear swap though, but is that enough of a reason? no offense but the first thought for me was that "not impressed. so many better options" translates to "contact me and get some dps"

toons are reportedly not all that in crud and are reputed to really be a pow specialty ski. Huge tips = crud deflection.

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Originally Posted by keksie

"not impressed. so many better options" translates to "contact me and get some dps"

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"not impressed. so many better options" = sumo, big daddy, profit, dp, capital, igneous, birdos, kingswood, 4frnt EHP - ie. all of the skis recommended

the point is that they are super fat fujativs - poor construction and materials. 1/2 the depth of a screw hole is fiberglass and the wood is not dense. i have not ski'd them, but have mounted several pairs. honestly, I have absolutely no desire to. as LB stated, the huge tip is not designed to slice windbuff like a lotus or spat would. they are rather a deep & light snow specific design.

go re-read the reviews... less than glowing and not much mentioned following the initial notes, and one of the initial reviewers is already selling his pair after they fell apart on him after only a few days...

as far as the dp stab - i only offer opinions on skis i have ski'd or worked on. I did not become a rep of dp until after my skis were delivered and i ski'd them and was really impressed by them. I also rep other companies... most know which lines... and don't spew about them, unless i think the rec. is warrented. further more, i recommend many skis i have no affiliation with at all. i also make no money on dp's, but attempt to pass on good deals on sweet stuff.

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I did not become a rep of dp until after my skis were delivered and i ski'd them and was really impressed by them. ...
i also make no money on dp's, but attempt to pass on good deals on sweet stuff.

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Hold up -- if you don't make money on them, what's the point of repping them? Or am I just confused about what repping means?

Sorry for the tangent.

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Originally Posted by marshalolson

you may want to tune the sarcasm meter to high.

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my bad
thanks for clearing that up

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Hold up -- if you don't make money on them, what's the point of repping them? Or am I just confused about what repping means?

Sorry for the tangent.

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Let's just say that Marsh's rep deal is above reproach on that front. He's good peeps and the suggestion that he's a shill for DP is total bullshit.

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Word. He'll get you a sweet discount, that's the bottom line. At least cheaper than pontoons, probably (don't know what they're going for, but i imagine it'll be around 800+). And lb is sandbagging when he describes the deal as "above reproach"...it's better than that.

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Originally Posted by lemon boy

flame bigs/arnos are 84mm.

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Depends on which size. The nancy 188cm size is 80mm.

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Hold up -- if you don't make money on them, what's the point of repping them? Or am I just confused about what repping means?

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just trying to pass on a good deal, and want people to love their skis....

i am hopefully earning a bit of a discount in the future on dps.

whatever dude, the only way that you can keep your credibility intact as a non-shill is for you to give me any dps that you get comped. :rolleyes2:

seriously though, why isnt this a sticky?

i'm feeln pretty sticky, so, uh, i'm outta here......

definately needs to be a sticky..........

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