You've got to ski it... It's got some real black magic going for it.Quote:
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You've got to ski it... It's got some real black magic going for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by TexasGortex
Please feel free to shoot me an email. I’ve got a couple folks on the reservation list :)Quote:
Originally Posted by TexasGortex
Will do!
I ended up mounted at -4.5 and was pretty happy. I took mine out opening day at Big Sky. Was not the plan at all, but had them in the truck. My bindings were fucked up on my "everything" ski (183 all metal Katanas) so the HBs were put into play. Luckily it was 6" of new and we have pretty good base (for SWMT lol). These are fun as fuck. I need more time to really give a good review. In untouched they were a blast obviously. In chop they were also super fun. After a few laps I was learning their pop and starting to gap some smaller bumps and start to push them more. I felt plenty of support in the shovels and tails. I'm 175-180ish pounds with my gear on.
I have a feeling my beloved full rocker Revolt 124s will be sitting on the bench this season. These are dramatically lighter skis, but not so light that they feel like they will get tossed around.
Skiing my 179 HB122's for the first time. Mounted 87cm from tail (straight pull is 182.6cm = `-4.3cm),
Quick lunchtime first thoughts report....conditions are slushy and rainy, cementy shit snow at Whistler. I'm 5'7", 170 lbs, like centerish mounts and rockered skis.
Took me about 2 seconds to get comfortable.
Holy shit! Surprised how stupidly fast you can ski ....they love motoring over slushy, uneven terrain. They do like you to ski centered and are pretty surfy like Marshal promised. Yet they are not floppy noodles. I found the HB122 decently stable on soft groomers. Though you need to roll them way over on edge to get them to grab.
People skiing behind me said the slush spray off of these was overhead at times.
Pretty pumped that the these are such a blast for f’ing around when conditions soft but not perfect. Can't wait to get them in pow. I see many skis days spent on these this season. They are really fun and I'm super glad they are in my quiver. Happy with the feel of the Salomon Strive 16 bindings too.
You know I like a ski when it gets a Mt. Baker “Go East" sticker on it.
KC
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Skied mine today
Me
Five Eight
Two Hundred Husky plus pounds
Age way to close to fifty
Occupation Jr High teacher so I mostly ski nights and weekends.
I have four angry small people I get to ski with.
I skied the original Hellbents when they came out they just felt meh to me.
Fast forward the next season I fell in love with the OG 08-09 Bibby.
Marshal and I had plenty of ski conversations this year. He told me “These are the Skis your Looking for”
Skied today some heavier for Utah pow and crud soft groomers and bumps.
First run today was on Milly. First turn ok 2nd turn on groomers better 3rd turn I got this. Then Holy crap this ski just skied like a champ you lay it over it carved soft groomers, pivoted with ease and had me grinning from ear to ear.
So after a few runs I walk across the parking lot to Great Western. By this time navigating the cat track I was completely skiing like I’d been on it for years. Took the traverse out and found some fresh untracked sections. It was so good it lived being skied at a neutral stance, no sinking easy to pivot and floated through the heavier pow and crud.
I was blown away when Marshal told me he had skied this last season more than he expected now I know why.
I called him on my way home and told him how great this skis are he said yea they make a 45 year old plus guy who doesn’t charge as hard as they use to feel like a hero.
Love this ski and can’t wait to update this through out the season. I think Marshal has truly worked some incredible ski magic.
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Yeah, Homie is a genius. People need to wake up. Non HL skiers are seriously missing out.
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I'm a believer - its a quiver ski for sure but for pow days with low viz, fresh snow, and playful terrain these deliver the most smiles per vertical foot of skiing I've seen in a long time. Absurd levels of playfulness yet still somehow absolutely mob through cut up pow. If you're even a bit curious about these I'd encourage you to take a leap of faith and get a pair, I was super hesitant given these are the opposite (both mount point and flex) of my usual skis yet I've never been so happy to be wrong about my existing biases.
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more fun txt msgs :)Quote:
Dude the HBs are fire. I've skied some bottomless on them (photo from a few days ago) and today on some denser stuff and deep chop and OMG so perfect.
Yep! I've skied em in the real blowery stuff as you can see and of course they do really well. Hell when it's cold and dry enough really doesn't matter what ski you have. Where these really shine is the supportive pow and chop as others have already stated. Today was that day and I had more fun today on skis than I have in a long time. Skied plenty of untracked recycled pow from this windy storm and they were awesome. Slashing piles and taking some risky pops in buried chopped moguls at speed on the way to and from the stashes. So fugging good.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marshal Olson
I like to say it’s like the originals are a Bob Dylan song sung by Bob Dylan.
The HB is a Bob Dylan song sung by your favorite artist and it’s so much better.
Marshal just took something good and made it so damn good. It’s also fun to ski with my kids.
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huge shout-out to SFB for the harlaut p15s, these look totally customhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...eef09a828a.jpg
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Castified HB’s! Baller dude!
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These skis put a smile on my face every time I ski them. Forgiving, fun, supportive. They really do tick all the boxes.
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Were you up at basin today?Quote:
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Alta!Quote:
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I think I found a song that best describes the HB122
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjC0vMIrOAk
talk about mud flaps.
my skis got em.
Or so I have read….
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I'm definitely biased here, but the new topsheet is pretty friggin' dope.
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So gratifying to recieve texts like this after a long few months grinding. Fired up! Thanks for all of the stoke, everyone.Quote:
Marshal - you have absolutely nailed the HB122. Just spend three days skiing them in Jackson Hole, two days in the side/backcountry. Absolutely EPIC in the powder. Super playful and fun just like I remember the hellbents, except didn’t have any of the chatter at high speeds. I LOVE these skis!!!! THANK YOU.
new top sheet looks so good. big fan of simpler topsheets but the rest aren't bad either :)
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new graphics are rad
I could do without the pentagram though haha
don't really need these but want to try them very much, updated shape intrigues
Pentagram is bold a little spooky. But hey
Anybody in the HB cult formerly a Protest owner? I have some 192 flex 4 protests with veneer that have been my deep day ski, but the last few times I've been out on deep days I've been looking for a more balanced, forward stance from that ski. I'm mounted back a few cm iirc, but still feel the need to adopt a rearward bias in the really deep and I'd rather not. Am I in the right place or should I just size up on the Protest?
Did the flex pattern in the shovels change for the v2 version? Paul Forward of Blister seemed pretty damned stoked on the tails of the v1 version, but not the shovels. He hinted that something was in the works for HL based on input from him (in a Gear30 episode) - is the HB v2 version if? Or is there yet another pow killer coming?
Experimenting in the Powder Lab
>Like an alchemist these skis spin powder and crud into Gold!
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Are you at Alyeska by any chance? I think I met your friend with the R120 and blue pivots on the lift.Quote:
Originally Posted by DeathVan
That was the perfect day for both of those skis!!!
Hi Kid- There is a tech email on the HB122v2 coming in the next few days that details every small tweak in the ski, as I am formally adopting the shape and giving it the full HL spin, while still keeping true to its roots.Quote:
Originally Posted by kid-kapow
Separately, Paul and I have been talking about the ultimate AK heli guide ski ski, which is basically a +15mm HB122 optimized for super strong skiers in huge terrain carrying 40+lb packs. I look forward to having fewer balls in the air to execute on that, but it is on the pause at this exact moment.
I have exactly NO use for this ski but, strangely, I want it really bad. Already saving up my ducats for the pre-order.........until the next shiny object comes along that I want even more!Quote:
Originally Posted by Marshal Olson
[QUOTE=Lord Thomas;I have exactly NO use for this ski but, strangely, I want it really bad. Already saving up my ducats for the pre-order.........until the next shiny object comes along that I want even more![/QUOTE]
They’re ridonk but so fun. Makes me happy every time I click into them.
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Yes, the last 4 days of fresh were so fun !Quote:
Originally Posted by SkiJitsu
The HB122 is so versatile and there for you, it feels like it has a gyroscopic effect keeping you balanced.
That R120ST is a Destroyer!, like a quicker and meaner Bodacious, without that planky tip feel.
Love it!Quote:
Originally Posted by Marshal Olson
The Heli-bent
@Kid-Kapow -- still don't really know where/why/how you read that Paul wasn't stoked on the ski!?!?!?! ;)Quote:
Paul Forward of Blister seemed pretty damned stoked on the tails of the v1 version, but not the shovels.
Text from yesterday:
trying
what the fuck is going on with this forum and its app - it is all gone to hell tonight. At MO - I never stated that he did not like the ski - the term he used to describe their tails was magical - but that the tips are a bit too soft for him ( I flex them into a wall). He talked about it here https://blisterreview.com/podcasts/g...be-next-ep-320 at minute 53.
Yo man; I’m with you - can’t edit post and can’t add attachments! Have been trying to clean my comment up all day, as it didn’t read the way I intended! Sorry for that. Hands tied!
I’ll listen to the podcast at the time you mention. I am just confused; as he and I talk all the time and never heard anything but super positive about them, all he has said is for the Ak guide ski, the tips need to be a little stiffer.
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Teaser of the hb122 coming on thursday is
1) UHMW sidewalls
2) smoothed rocker profile, where there was 2 subtle kinks in the forebody and tip, there is now a single curve
3) increased tapers tip/tail tail to help in grabby snow, wide points tip/tail result as ~3mm narrower
4) shifted flex pattern and sidecut slightly to balance the ski out slightly
Can't really say if that would fully capture what Paul is speaking about in that. But the forebody will be a little more supportive as a result of these tweaks.
Sorry for not fully picking up what you were putting down.
nice :)
Sorry to miss-read/miss-understand your prior post. Anyhow, tech email on the HB122v2 goes out in 30min or so :)
New shape looks so dialed. OMGosh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marshal Olson