Fack.
That’s hateful.
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Fack.
That’s hateful.
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Moi Moi been fighting the demons since his insane 2021 year. He will DNS this weekend at Finale. "Grip strength" issue after a small crash. Fuck.
There's got to be a better way of covering the EWS (I refuse to call it EDR) than real-time spreadsheet updates on Pinkbike, right? I know at this point they just don't give a fuck, but I have to imagine the bike companies that are sponsoring all these riders have to be making a bit of noise...
My thought is to present a VERY brief synopsis of the first stages, then line the riders up for the final stage in reverse order just like a DH. Cover and film the last stage so that it’s fucking interesting and compelling in real time. And PLEASE don’t just show 80 riders going though one section of track. It’s like locking a kid in a closet with a box of cigars after catching him smoking.
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I'm fine with enduro only getting covered with a good highlights video. Half the point of enduro is that the races can go to cool locations, and cool locations are rarely conducive to setting up big cameras all over the place and running miles of wires so that a live stream can happen.
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While I agree with you in principle, right now what they're doing is the worst of both: shitty coverage in the same European locations over and over again (often at bike parks), condensed down to 1 day and much less actual pedaling. So it's basically multi-stage DH without any coverage.
Yeah - what they're currently doing is fairly terrible. But ~5 years ago when enduro was actually good, there still wasn't really any live coverage. I think all of the sacrifices they've made to the courses has been in pursuit of better coverage, but the coverage still sucks. I'd rather they went back to good courses and commit to only providing posthumous coverage, with maybe some nominal snippets during the race.Quote:
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The old courses had a lot of memorable moments. Actual loam ripping corners. The vids come out in a day or 2 and maybe eventually they could have better live footy. Finale is no doubt a great place to ride but loose tacky dirt amongst a sub tropical forest or alpine meadows and screescape surrounded by peaks beats that for the visual trail setting everytime
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Pan Am Thoughts. Blevins and Batten are noticeably faster than the rest of the field. Quite a few of the younger ages had strong rep from South America. It will be interesting to see how that plays out over the next ten years. I know from coaching youth sports, some of those kids mature sooner, but will they maintain? Yes, sweeping generalization there.
Anyway. Very cool to see so much bike love in Heber.
New tracks for EDR (eww) and DHi this weekend.
It'll be super cool to see the difference between the preview and the event track for the DH.
EDR is a dumb name.
It’ll always be EWS.
Everyone agrees and it’s just one more minor thing they’re doing to fuck it all up.
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Dak on top for semis!
A bit of mud seems to be making a mostly uninteresting track more interesting.
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Screwed up and missed this week's deadline for Pinkbike DH Fantasy. Still 2 hours left for Vital fantasy so I signed up and made picks. Riders are way cheaper, was able to choose a bunch of my favorites. Weekly prizes.
LFG Dak!!
DH not streaming live? The junior races are available as replays, but the elites don’t show up anywhere as scheduled live events. Last race I was able to start the live feed from the beginning. I’m hoping the elite races show up as replays later this afternoon, then.
Damn it. Swapped Ronan for Dak at the last minute on my fantasy team. Oh well.
Fun race to watch. Good to see Amaury getting his form back. Shaping up to be a good season with a bunch of legit contenders in both men's and women's.
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Exciting race to watch (all WC DH races are), but personally I thought that course was lame AF. So much pedaling and jumping, and virtually no tech at all.
Agreed. The woods sections were decent, but short. A lot of people were acting like the top section was rowdy, but it was only rowdy because the soft berms were fucked with brake bumps. Which makes for a challenging course, but not really an interesting one.Quote:
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When did Gwinn break his foot?
Kinda gutted for Dak. He still had a heck of a weekend.
The woods section that I thought was really WC worthy was shot from the side and probably made it look a bit easier than it was.
Less chatter here now because people are not paying for the races as much?
$10 with ads.Quote:
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$16 no ads.
No confusion about what I’m getting.
It works.
Not perfect, but smooth enough and reasonable enough to tolerate.
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I paid the $16 and now I have an excuse to rewatch Sopranos, The Wire, and actually get through Succession.
We got that promo deal a couple months ago and pay $9/mo with no ads… and my wife and I watch Max more than anything else already. It’s nice the BR sports add-on free trial has continued so long into the season.
Oh, and Hardline is next week on Red Bull…. Wasn’t it typically later in the fall?
New Hardline Course...Geeeze...
I came to post the same thing... they can't actually expect all the riders to hit that, right?
BTW, did you see the video of the guy who bailed and crashed? Fuuuuck.
Jim Monro. Got super lucky. PB and IG comments are wild. That feature is just stupid dangerous. Gee shouldn't be allowed to design things for....pretty much anyone who wants to live past 40.Quote:
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I’ve been seeing clips of that on ig for a couple of days starting w the concussion guy. That jump is fucking insane. The gap to get on the ramp is pretty huge but doesn’t even factor in
It's insane.
Sounds like they're gonna tame the lip and maybe the compression from the in-run too, and probably add a net of some sort. Kinda can't believe the guinea pigging happened without a net but no-one made those guys do it I guess. IDK what kind of agreement the Athertons have with Kerr but he's some sort 'official guinea pig', and he'll do damn near anything. He's got a lot of confidence but also the skills to back it up it seems. I felt like Jones had a lot more respect reluctance about the jump. Kerr did say on IG that Gee made him the most scared he's ever been. Everyone's lucky, especially Munro, that it didn't go worse for him. Easily could have IMO.
I hate to say it, but to me it seems like the type of thing they’re doing for clicks, with no real intention of including it in the actual course.
Where is the ride around? I don't remember seeing one. I think that there are some racers that won't hit that.Quote:
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Not sure, but I think there are a LOT of racers who won’t hit that. But maybe I’m totally off though.
Funny, I was thinking the same thing. It's not even a nice smooth easy entry (for kooks like me anyway) to get set up for the death launch.Quote:
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This is a bit much imo. It's like Evel Knievel batshit crazy sending
Goldstones time gap is pretty impressive.
https://youtu.be/7uk4sfbUG1c?si=ejhXeVhHuSoNZtS1
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It's a 70' gap. BK and Matt Jones cleaned it and may have actually over jumped it. Jim compressed on the takeoff and got ejected out the front door....
It's huge, no doubt. For context:
Darkfest:
https://youtu.be/uVDry-fzB8E?si=07rZ0QNP7UXqV3ar
Has several jumps larger, including a 90' and 110' option.
On this course, there are several hits larger, including the pair of 90' ers.
Redbull Rampage has had a number about that big, I love this one:
https://youtu.be/7iK2K160WyE?si=6jPNLVSiKbfcnQSS
But the consequence of coming up short was big with no net, the case pad was big so short likely would have been a buck off the front.
Still nothing I would ever come close to hitting.
As far as the clicks thing, I mean, Matt Jones is literally a Youtuber now, he has his sponsorship deals through that, not competing, although this and hardline tasmania are competitions.
Yeah, I mean, it really just comes down to the consequences for shorting it. If someone shorts one of those ~100' jumps at darkfest, they're fairly fucked even though there's no canyon underneath. Is a slightly smaller (but still enormous) gap with a canyon underneath actually more dangerous? I don't know. Any mandatory gap with a 40+ mph in run is gonna be gnarly.Quote:
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At this point, it's all about clicks and views. And things need to be visually striking to generate those views. Building an enormous jump on top of janky looking scaffolding over a river in a canyon is certainly visually striking. Kerr, Jones, etc. just guaranteed another year of sponsorship with those clips.
As a side note, there was a similarly janky river gap at Silverton back in 2004-ish when they had a bike park there. Bender built it, but it was open to the public from time to time. I think it was 50-ish feet, and the canyon wasn't quite as deep, but shorting it definitely wasn't an option. All before social media was a thing. Some people just like to send it and scare themselves.
Remember too, this is part of a race course in non-perfect conditions... very different mentality trying to ride something fast vs Dark Fest or Rampage.
Also pretty sure there isn't chicken wire on that wood. At BME Big Sky last year they shortened a stage because we had to ride over a curved wooden bridge w/o chicken wire in the rain at race pace. Someone fell off and broke their leg I think. They ended the stage before the bridge. That is nothing compared to these guys going 40mph into a PAINTED SLICK WOODEN FEATURE IN FUCKING WALES. Isn't it wet there like 350 days a year?
Again, Gee is a sociopath I think.
I watched a recent Crankworx vid of somebody crossing the finish line and in the back ground i could see 3 para ex-riders sitting in their chairs, so they get the good seats and at least they weren't quad
Canyon jump is out?: https://singletrackworld.com/2024/05...ap-jump-is-out
Here's what's new on the Red Bull Hardline Wales 2024 course (Looks like there are 2! river gap jumps)
"This year is the most nervous I've ever been. I'm genuinely scared for the riders because the consequences are so high"
Dan Atherton
https://www.redbull.com/int-en/red-b...-and-evolution
And some perspective on the 2nd jump:
https://img.redbull.com/images/c_cro...-new-direction