A geodesic dome? Igloo?Quote:
Originally Posted by neufox47
Seriously, the pics in this thread are insane. Best of luck to everyone coping with that amount of snow on their home.
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A geodesic dome? Igloo?Quote:
Originally Posted by neufox47
Seriously, the pics in this thread are insane. Best of luck to everyone coping with that amount of snow on their home.
Yes. A lot of the seasonal cabins I see the plumbing vents are studors. Forget anything going through the roof, they'll just leak or get buried and not work.Quote:
Originally Posted by neufox47
A roof with a vent ‘periscope’ you can drive a front end loader on?[emoji848]Quote:
Originally Posted by neufox47
Seriously though, the shear volume of snow is mind boggling and untenable. There’s nowhere for it to shed or to go after removal from roofs.
The simpler form the better. The opened ended, ‘alps chalet’ or A-frame is about as simple as you get, but the side walls or A-frame roof loading would need to withstand snow piling against them (ie, see my shop’s wainscoting). A ‘quonset hut’ shape could be similar. One house I designed slightly echos a ‘tilted manta ray’.
A flat or shallow pitched roof with very extended overhangs that can simply let the snow accumulate while protecting the perimeters and access points does make a lot of sense. Bonus points for collecting the water from the roof.
Earth ships, ‘Hobbit houses’, underground domes or houses are a whole other approach with their own pros and cons.
Then there are aesthetic, light, ventilation, livability, lifestyle and view considerations for when the snow is long gone.
Looks like after the Sierras get dowsed, we’ll get that flow Friday- Saturday.
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Is that Canada’s version of Hotel California?
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I cleared more yesterday, from what I can reach from the ground and while standing on snowshoes atop the giant berms in front of the house - especially trying to clear the valleys in the lower roof top, to encourage water and snow melt to drain. I'd call that reasonable.Quote:
Originally Posted by neufox47
There's not much I could do with an insurance policy the day before a storm anyway.
I drove around my neighborhood yesterday, looking at roofs and whether I saw anyone who had cleared roofs. A few metal roofs had slid, as they do. Most roofs are tile, a few are asphalt shingle. I saw exactly one house that had any signs of being cleared off the roof. All the rest have giant piles of snow like mine, some much bigger, many on much flatter roofs than mine. I'll take some pictures as I head out today.
Neighbor said his house (built before mine) had the architect tell him that something like 325 psf was required then, but he did his house to 400. I didn't build mine or have it built, so don't know what mine was designed for.
Maybe everything in my neighborhood is gonna collapse. Maybe everything will be fine...
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For reference, i believe the design snowload for City of S lake tahoe is 150psf. 1 gallon of water weighs around 8.5lbs, and a home depot bucket carrys about 5 gallons on about a 0.75sf footprint. Obviously, snow (even compacted snow) weighs a lot less than liquid water. Still, to hit your 150psf loading you would have to stack your entire roof about 2.6 homedepot buckets high of pure water... or about 40" high of pure water. So youre looking at needing metric fuckton of snow on those roofs before they should start failing.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Chupacabra
*i am an engineer, though not a structural, and this assumes materials in good condition, good construction quality, and built to recent codes*
No earthquakes in CA/NV please!
Big slab just ripped out on NE roof and knocked everything off the window sill. Thankfully this is a modern window* cause the OG window would have been bashed in. The window is 15' off the ground.
There's still a good sized slab to go on the SE roof. Gonna need to do some digging this afternoon to clear the window and the furnace exhaust vent.
*Note - modernish window was replaced a few years back on that September windstorm where a treetop broke off and smashed through the window into the living room. i was scared for my life that day.
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We don't get the big dumps of snow like those pictur as a rule but what caused big problem was a good rainfall right apres a good dump of snow early season which saturated the water table, caused flooded basements, collapsed some roofs and blew out the river to the point it was undermining the banks and some major power lines were in danger of being washed away
Stupid thought of the day: Lots of folks have heated driveways/walkways. Why arent people heating their roofs? Especially metal roofs seem like they would be easy to mcguyver along the underside from the attic.
In Nederland the wind and sun do most of the heavy lifting.
Sweep and shovel the door ways and let nature take over.
NWS updated forecast from this morning. 7.5-10” where I live. There are some residents with over 5’ sitting on their rooftops and many of those homes predate snow load building codes. 7.5-10” of water in South Lake Tahoe between now and Sunday. Probably more for donner pass area based on the graphic. 10-15” of water in Yosemite. Mammoth area is not called out, but gradient on the graphic looks to be lower than SLT.
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Omg! That is going to be brutal!
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Damn! Good luck!
Also I don't know that I've ever seen river rock as a gable accent. I guess if you're gonna do it at least it's a log home.
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YikesQuote:
Originally Posted by bodywhomper
Can add their Monday-Wednesday water fx
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Yuba is going to be rockin. Just spoke to my friend, said someone should of been shoveling the HH restore roof. It just caved in. When was the last time 20 was open?
I’m hoping to get down 49 to see the river if it’s raging. Hopefully 49 will stay open. I live very close to the next upstream xing, but don’t really want to deal with that road. I drove on 20 probably the last night it was open, two Sunday’s ago, after working at the hill. Lots of fun, drifting most turns on 6-12” of fresh snow.Quote:
Originally Posted by BFD
I saw the news about the recycling center/HH Restore bldg collapse. Bummer. Been a rough many days. Probably gonna be rougher before it’s better.
Roughly 2" of rain overnight, according to local amateur weather site near me. Slushy snow from last night in driveway, went out and shoveled it away and cleared some drains some more. Water is dripping steadily off the roof, some gutters are clear of ice completely and flowing well - others just have water overflowing the ice, or water is flowing around ice on the roof and coming off the edges. No leaks indoors, roof hasn't collapsed. Hoping that today's forecasted warmer temps will help more snow melt off the roof. It's 38* outside right now.
I have a much smaller strip and it works, but you need to run it at the right times (not too cold... hovering near freezing), and your downspouts need to be clear as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by adrenalated
My cable runs through the downspout, the gutter, and a zig zag pattern on the portion of roof that is a problem.
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This one finally broke loose after several weeks. All sorts of hangfire remaining on all sides of the house. Got the furnace vent dig out again just now tho.
Well, i made a error in judgement and got away w it today, by just a few minutes. Inside the house about 10min after diggin out the windows and the heater vent, the house shakes with another slab letting loose. i kinda falsely assumed that because the bottom of that SE section broke off, presumably releasing tension on the rest of it, that the hangfire wouldn't release. WRONG. Pretty much buried the spot i was standing. Just spent another 30min digging aforementioned area out again. Phew, close one!
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If you had a guyonabuffalo shit would be fine
sorry for sideways pics, tried and could not fix. ahhhhhhshit.
and what's this guyonabuffalo stuff about? seen phantom glimpses of it but not fully comprehending yet
Uh, that siding bowing out.. :eek:
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Originally Posted by I Skied Bandini Mountain
yeah, remnants of the ice dam days in years past. really need to redo the siding and some interior work but $$$. new roof means no more ice dams, thank goodness. the waterfall next to my bed kept me up at night
Plywood some windows?
Not really that pricey if you do the work yourself. My daughter has a 2 on 1 where the rear unit obviously had years of water damage. We demoed pretty much an entire exterior wall and rebuilt it and then had the drywall guys come in and tape and mud them before we painted inside the house. If we had payed for that job it would have been way more.Quote:
Originally Posted by jmedslc
copy that, that's the new plan for summer! thanksQuote:
Originally Posted by liv2ski
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All work and no play? Never good.
My neighbor has well over 10 feet of snow on his front deck--slid off his metal roof. The amazing thing is the deck rail hasn't budged. Praise for Ron Adams, Truckee coontractor, who built the deck. At this point I think it' make it through the winter because a the new snow sliding off the roof just slides down the pile to the ground. (My friend can't do anything about it--recuperating in the bay area after getting badly hurt last summer by someone turning left in front of his bike on a steep downgrade--multiple leg fractures and operations).
Dam! That would’ve left a mark!
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The current un-view from the office:
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That ice looks lethal.
It’s pulverized to cocktail ice now. We’ve been watching it for 4 days since the wet snow came and released the shop and office roofs.
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Solitude Nordic Center. The snow is covering the first story windows and is half way up the second story:
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Was up in TD today to get som snow off the decks. My blowers were useless, with the snow so wet, and the tires just spinning on the slippery shit. Shovel time! If there’s a hard freeze, what’s left will be there until Memorial Day.Quote:
Originally Posted by old goat
The guy who plows our driveway mostly uses blowers but the snow now is too heavy--burns up the clutches so it's down to the owner and his son and a coupe of loaders--the poor guy definitely needs a break. Most of his drivers can't operate the loader.
OG, I don't know what a blower is. Is that a tractor with the spinning wheel on the front that blows snow like 20 feet away? I am assuming a loader is a big tractor with a bucket on the front.
After reading this thread, my desire to live in the snow has been somewhat diminished.