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Looks dry and Rowdy at Les Gets
https://youtu.be/cmBoeXTUf-E?si=Js_vO6fr-7oiXC1L
What
A
Race
FKNA!!!!!!!!
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Yaess!Quote:
Originally Posted by jm2e
Les gets delivers.
I love the dialed series as usual.
French crowd is rowdy in a great way.
More tracks with line choices, please.
Yes to injured riders commentating.
Ben Castro pinkbike is awesome too.
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Looks like it might be their plan. Its nice to have just normal discussion. Just matter of fact without over doing it on catch phrases. Charlie was cool like Gwinn and gave a nice contrast to the talking headsQuote:
Originally Posted by jm2e
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I havent seen "drive to survive", or even heard of it, but ive wondered when we'd see speicial ed all miked up relaying track deteriating changes. The access we have now compared to waiting 2 months for mountsin bike action magazine coverage is night and day.
https://youtu.be/8pfD8Lp-X4s?si=QxkVv3cC1z7D55Ms
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A drive to survive style world cup dh show would be great. I don't agree with porter that in helmet communication from team to rider is necessary. In helmet communications are a small part of drive to survive and unnecessary for dh. Drive to survive is interesting because it gives the viewer an insiders look to f1. Whether the drama is overplayed or not, I have no idea.
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The last two races have been great viewing. I definitely appreciated the additional commentary from Gwin and Hatton.
That said, my wife had the best comment of the race. About Loic: “His kit looks like a Wonder Bread tube.”
Agreed. F1 drivers are in the car for hours and a DH race lasts minutes. You could "turn it into a team sport" without live in-race comms. A big parallel is that in DtS the cars are almost their own character. A lot of drama revolves around developing and testing them, teams trying to figure out what new tech other teams have, and the drivers blowing them up and the mechanics scrambling to fix them. The bikes in WC DH have that kind of stuff in spades.Quote:
Originally Posted by skinipenem
Seeing Haley Batten put up two fourths over the weekend makes her concussion stop seem wise. I wonder sometimes if the pressure causes some of these riders to over train. The competition for so few spots is so huge!
I think we have mini versions of the drive to survive now with Cathro and Dialed and a few other vlogs... Put that together with some real production into a show.. That'd be dope. A few episodes preseason, a few in season and you could get a 8 episode tv season out of it.
That track was kinda bonkers. a few inches out of the line, or having your tire climb the inside to washout without being able to see the inside of the rut do to dust... insane.
Kinda gutted for Dak.
Teams have up to 10-12 spotters on course and riders are trying multiple lines as practice progresses. I saw more than a few last minute changes at les gets. Sector 2 had multiple possibilities. I could see them changing during a run if spotters saw something. When fractions of a second matter together with 4 and 5 second swings in sector 2 it could make or break a race or season. Added race run drama and itd be better to listen to teams miked chats than Cedric
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I tend to think the pressure causes riders to take increased risk more so than overtrain. The cool thing about dh is that athletes train in all sorts of different ways. Some athletes spend lots of time in the gym, riding road bikes, riding pedal bikes, while others just ride a ton. It is pretty cool :). Compare that to what I think xc riders do.... ride on the road a shit ton.Quote:
Originally Posted by Canada1
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No idea on these. Id like to try one though. Slick mount
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CxFKo...RlODBiNWFlZA==
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Finally got to sit down and watch Les Gets DH.
Awesome race. Good to have Hatton in the booth, although he's not nearly as good as Gwin. Still better than Cedric though. The drone footage was a bit overdone. Especially in the trees.
Psyched for Benoit. That guy's super consistent and he's been working his way up the ranks for years. It's cool that he's finally standing on top. He reminds me a bit of Brosnan in his prime. Super dialed, hits all his lines, and looks very in control.
This whole season is really good though. This is the first time in as long as I can remember that we haven't had a repeat winner yet. The racing is so much more interesting when there's a bunch of legitimate contenders. And the fight for the overall is tight - there's ~250 points separating the top 5 guys, and there's 400 points up for grabs at every race. The last couple rounds will be interesting.
I probably resemble that. I’ve taken to doing a century about once a month on the hard tail. I also feel they are distinguished in that the down hill guys seem so much about survival. You can only go full bore down hill so much between falls. Having the muscle to sustain a high speed impact and still be ready for the next lap is very different than being able to maintain 400 watts for 20 minutes.
One DNF from Iles, Bruni, Goldstone, Benoit or Loris (consistently in the mix) and it's a big potential hit to their overall.Quote:
Originally Posted by toast2266
I think if they actually got one stretch the same for all of them in the trees and the guy in the truck actually knew when to switch to and from that camera the follow drone would be cool. Right now they only get it right a few times in a full day.
It’s literally nauseating to watch.Quote:
Originally Posted by grskier
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I'm saying it could be done well, that's all. They've shown they can do it, but only like 1/50 right now. Certainly not something I'd broadcast.Quote:
Originally Posted by jm2e
I actually like some of the drone footage. I find it gives perspective on how incredibly fast they are going that doesn't come through on the chest or helmet types of "go pro footage". So, of the alternatives, I like it better than the helmet cam. It certainly isn't causing me to tune out.
Ibis drops out of the EWS… will this be the first domino? I can’t imagine the investment comes close to paying off these days with the complete lack of visibility.
EWS/EDR is dead. They killed it. I mean it always was tough for coverage but the media used to be way better.Quote:
Originally Posted by smmokan
DH looks like maybe they can rebound as the coverage is improving. The field will be different though.
Yup.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eluder
And really, DH is on life support. Chris Ball is doing a really good job of fucking everything up by making all disciplines exceedingly expensive to compete in.
Another entity (Redbull, Crankworx, etc) has to start a competing league at some point, right? There's a better way to do this across the board with the flow of money/sponsorships, TV/media coverage, and the way things are run.
I was wondering if Redbull's continued presence with Rob and Eliot was either for picking up the pieces or to gauge the crankworx/redbull hardline, plus a few other events a year league.Quote:
Originally Posted by smmokan
Crankworx is potentially a viable series, but it doesn't really matter until the factory teams view it as prestigious. You can have the best race series with awesome venues and great coverage, but none of that matters if the teams aren't sending their top talent to those races. It's kind of a chicken and egg thing - a legit alternate race series can't exist until top racers go to it, but top racers won't go to it until it's legit. Really, I think for an alternate race series to take off, it'd need a substantial influx of cash to get it rolling. See, for example: Liv Golf.
We just need MTB to take off in the United Arab EmiratesQuote:
Originally Posted by toast2266
Indoor enduro makes sense.
Could put a DH course in the Burj Khalif.
Just spitballing here
https://www.trailforks.com/region/mushrif-park-56233/Quote:
Originally Posted by grskier
I hear blue trail #6 is rowdy AF.
https://www.timeoutdubai.com/news/mo...-national-park
when anything and everything was “epic”
LulzQuote:
Originally Posted by bennymac
"The first phase of the winding Mushrif National Park mountain bike trail can accommodate 3,000 riders per day, and is a healthy 3m wide to ensure you and your bike gang can ride in tandem."
Part of me wants to go to Dubai to experience all this ridiculousness.
But part of me also feels like I’d just be helping hammer in another nail into the climate change coffin.
Devinci also throws in the towel: https://www.pinkbike.com/news/devinc...ro-racing.html.Quote:
Originally Posted by Canada1
edit: I meant to quote Smmokan. You get the point.
I dont know what happened at devinci over the years but its like they keep zhooting themselves in the foot. They had a killer dh bike , team and people were buying them big time. Carbon price was inline with other companies and all their alloy bikes, made in house, were priced extremely well. Totally ditched dh bikes, team , clean lines on the rest of their bikes and maybe designers? Idk and cranked the prices up. They seem a step behind the times. Rocky too. Ditch the dh bike, team, crank up prices and possibly now ditch the enduro team . Not sure how that business model is supposed to remain competitive.
I like that new hp spartan and a number of the rockies but at those price points i just can't
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Wonder if something like the Lifetime race series could work for DH and/or Enduro. I think it would be badass if they did an enduro-focused series that was a mix of single day, 2-day, and longer stage races to balance things out and really showcase different areas. It certainly seems to be working for endurance/gravel over the last two years.
I think the majority of devinci's income comes from non-bike work. They're a metal fabrication company that makes bikes on the side.Quote:
Originally Posted by grinch
They're certainly a big enough bike company that some jobs will be lost if the bike side of things folds. But my understanding is that the corporate higher ups are probably mostly concerned with other income streams.
Oh i didnt know that. I thought they were just ccm, rocky mt, devinci group. After chainsaw passed it was almost like they just started coastingQuote:
Originally Posted by toast2266
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Super fun to ride dh all day at Killington and then watch the fox us open men's open class. Saw minaar, Goldstone, Norton, and others racing.
Dakota Norton on his way to.....?https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...1a8664ce38.jpg
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Stoked for Dak.
Weird perspective in that pic makes it look like he’s rocking a 26/27.5 mullet.
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Cropped from video.Quote:
Originally Posted by jm2e
The difference in precision between the top world cup guys and everyone else was insane. Minaar, Goldstone, Dak all on another level of smoothness and quietness.
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