Will do, would love to go for a spin!
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Will do, would love to go for a spin!
I agree, that would absolutely be the right bike for you.
That one I’ll let go for $25,000.
But no tax!
Honestly in the current market - find a bike you like, then find out where you can get it for a price you can stomach.
I personally shoot for Shimano with SLX or higher. I'm not a suspension fiddler and bad enough that a lot of the high-zoot stuff won't make a difference, so while I notice the difference between my Fox 34 rhythm and some of the well tuned Fox 36's I've ridden in the past, it's maybe a 2-5% loss of experience for me so no matter. At some point I'll upgrade, but it's not a priority.
Would I be happy with SRAM or other stuff? I'm sure.
It’s a wash. I lean SRAM because the derailleurs have that little button that locks the cage for easier wheel removal.
So I started looking at the Fezzari Signal Peak TR Comp build, since they seem to have frames in stock. Would be just under $4300 shipped (set up tubeless, with frame protection installed). Would I be better off holding out for a nicer used bike? Toast's Spur for ~$1k more?
I have an aversion to spending many thousands of dollars on a used bike with no warranty, but I realize I need to get over that. That said, evaluating a random used bike -- whether it's in good shape, has good components, is a good deal -- is VERY intimidating when you don't know jack shit. That's certainly part of the appeal of just ordering a DTC bike, because everyone is getting the same price and there's some certainty in it.
So the Signal Peak and the Spur - despite similar amounts of suspension travel - I suspect are going to feel pretty different on the trail. Signal Peak is more of a traditional XC kind of geometry. You might prefer that, coming from an older bike. Spur is more progressive, designed to be more capable going down. I can see you also liking this style of bike better, knowing that you're not really into setting uphill records. Hence why I think it would be worth a couple hundred bucks for you to demo some stuff.
I think it is absurd that they charge $85 to set the bike up tubeless (especially since it saves the the cost of a pair of tubes and shouldn't really take any longer in a shop setting). On the other hand, a fully installed full frame protection kit for $65 is a good deal--there are places that might charge you $100 just for the labor on installing Ridewrap.
That's somewhere my Intense 951 was experience was a pleasant surprise. Not only was it $3250 shipped for a bike that should cost more...but in the box they included:
-Torque wrench and full set of bits.
-Decent 3-way Allen wrench (not the loose cheapies you sometimes get)
-Shock pump
-Tubeless valves and sealant (wheels came with tubes in place)
-Bottle and bottle cage.
-Some cheapo flat pedals that will come in handy next time I have a bike to sell.
its shop time ^^ to set up tubeless so is anything else they can hit your for cuz the margins on the high end bikes are low, also them fancy dentist bikes don't come put together so you gotta pay the mechanic, there is more money / possibly less sole in selling Giants
what are you trying to say there?
A little confused here, because the numbers look pretty close to me. Are you sure you looked at the Signal Peak TR (the 120 travel version) and not the 100 travel version? I'll admit to not knowing much more than head tube angle, which is admittedly 66 to 67, but 67 is in line with other bikes of this class (eg Revel Ranger is 67.5) and the other numbers all seem fairly similar. But maybe those few mm make a big difference. And you're no doubt right with this
except with current bike availability, finding bikes to demo isn't easy, and it's possible you could demo a bike, want to buy it, and not be able to find it to purchase. Still, I will consider demoing if I can find something somewhere I want to demo.
That we have similar philosophies about riding bikes ;)
Sure, but geo numbers don't tell the whole story either, the linkage design of the suspension and the parts spec is going to make a big difference too. Admittedly I don't know much about the Signal Peak other than how it's marketed so I could be completely wrong, but they advertise it as a fast XC bike whereas Transition has always been a more DH oriented company and all the reviews on the Spur seem to agree with that. Again, I could be completely wrong and I haven't actually ridden any bikes in this class, not even the one that I've owned for a month.
Yeah, this is fair. I think you can still learn a lot from demos even on bikes you can't or don't want to purchase though as it helps you narrow down parameters.
Not that I usually do but demo rides are certainly a great idea. I've got a Ranger and feel like it's a great example of don't judge a bike by only looking at it's geo #'s, the Ranger measures closer to an XC bike but descends like something else entirely.
Demos are great when inventory exists but if you want something now I would suggest narrowing it to 2 - 3 bikes, compare the details and pull trigger.
One thing to keep in mind is resale, whether people like it or a not a used Toyota is worth more than used Kia even in messed up markets.
^^^ This. Once you determine the style/type of riding you do it really comes down to SRAM VS Shimano and Fox VS ???
I'll add something strange to pot for others.
If someone didn't care about carbon or brand name and wanted a little more travel than what you seem to be seeking I would look at what Rossignol is offering. I nearly pulled trigger on one of their mopeds.
https://www.rossignol.com/us/rmj5016m-000.html
Yeah, figure what you want to ride, decide how much you want to spend, find out what’s available that you’re excited about and buy it.
Yes, valid consideration. I’m going to be selling a Giant soon. If I’m patient I’ll probably get about 70% of what I paid for it.
Spending less upfront for comparable spec but no illusions of doing the same with the YT I just bought.
Not really.
Sure I have a preference (shimano >sram cos I hate the sram jump to 52t and I think shimano durability and ergonomics are better - other rational minds will disagree) but in this market you aren’t likely to have choices - unless youre going Gucci high end or custom your bike comes with whatever the manufacturer cut a deal with. I wouldn’t choose or avoid a bike just because of components - they all work fine.
Bike that wife bought two months ago just got a price adjustment by Ibis to be $1000 more MSRP
Damn, that’s an excellent price point, (pretty much 100% XT and Ultimate suspension? That usually appears on $6k plus bikes) the only thing questionable are the rims. But they even got the right tires on there.
The geometry is spot on for today.
Don’t know how they ride, though. The few Rossi bikes I have seen were real pigs weight wise.
That FELT now Rossi is a killer deal
The Geo numbers are not bad on this thing. They bought Felt right so its not like they are totally clueless but the marketing and branding sure does suck.
I dunno, seems like a good spec to me. But yeah whiskey would help get over the shitty branding.
“It’s the S7 of Mountain Bikes!”