Took the time to do the math
8313 days
Pretty sure I’d be dead by now if I hadn’t stopped. Still have hard days….
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Took the time to do the math
8313 days
Pretty sure I’d be dead by now if I hadn’t stopped. Still have hard days….
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I'm not in recovery, but TWIS (the woman I'm seeing) is, and she knows of a number atheist AA Zoom meetings, and says they're a good thing. I can probably get info about those if requested.
Another friend likes Dharma recovery.
Seano - here's your amen.
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Originally Posted by JayPowHound
Which dharma group?
I was into refuge recovery before all the drama.
Shambala has a decent meeting, but it's small
Seano, you got this
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...58&single=trueQuote:
Originally Posted by TheSilverSurfer
I've been doing aa for about 6 months now, about 2 years of 90 percent sober before that.
I was wary of the god thing, everyone is. But it's not about God as we all think of it. It's about getting serenity and a psychic change about alcohol.
Tons of good people, just hanging together w a common bond.
Stoked to be sober. My life gets instantly better, and it was good to begin with.
Thanks for letting me share:)
Thank youQuote:
Originally Posted by JayPowHound
It's a spiritual thing, not an organized religion thing. That said, there are groups that really do all push the Christian side. I avoid those unless I really need a meeting at the time they meet. And by push, it's really just that they insist that all prayers end with "amen". Other than that not really. We also have athiest/agnostic groups. In a metroplex you can find a meeting for just about any psychographic..Quote:
Originally Posted by byates1
Wait, are you trying to get sober permanently or just taking a month off as part of your "sugar detox"? Your initial post sounded like the latter, but now I'm not sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by seano732
If anyone is struggling feel free to reach out. I have helped several people on different message boards get some recovery going over the years. The maggots were instrumental in pointing out how fucked my drinking was going back as far as around 2004 or 2005. I'm the type that needed some tough love and maybe some of the other maggots do to.
I’m always down to help and talk too, but I have a different perspective
Damnit, how many days do I need with no booze before the younger knees kick in?Quote:
Originally Posted by senior researcher
So far on day 12 with no booze, but my knees just aren't feeling younger yet.
Definitely the latter for now, but if I get through the first 30, I wouldn’t mind not coming back to it.. I’m not getting any younger, unfortunately. Thanks again errbody.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dantheman
Gotcha. Like sugar, with alcohol there are health huge benefits to going from lots->minimal, but minimal->zero doesn't gain you much. Timing is important, though. Two fingers at 4:00 pm is a lot different than two fingers at 7:00 pm. Alcohol really does wreck your sleep and nightcaps are terrible. That all said, if you get through the 30 and just don't feel like it any more then you might as well run with it. I was never much of a drinker, but after my head injury in late 2019 I just never felt like drinking period and never went back to it. Rarely I'll have wine with a nice meal as I think it really does enhance fine food. NA beers are still tasty, and I can drink them in the car after skiing and biking without worrying about open container or DUI!Quote:
Originally Posted by seano732
HALTQuote:
Originally Posted by JayPowHound
Hungry
Angry
Lonely
Tired
I agree it’s get past temptation any way you can. It’s a marathon not a sprint. But sometimes I had to breathe and believe to get past some of the hills
Feel free to reach out. Helped a lot of people get sober and happy to help anyway I can
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Day 6 I think, maybe 7. Started a week late but am onboard for once with dry January.
Hardest part for me is sleeping at night. I smoke weed but even the heaviest indicas don't help at all with sleep. Thanks to the insomnia thread I've been using CBN which has admittedly has been really helpful. Also have Melatonin in the mix but not trying to use it daily. Also have a few benzos from the doc for extreme situations.
Second real attempt at stopping for any considerable length of time. Much easier with some 'sleep support' added to the mix; of course that's not exactly a perfect solution, but alas.
EDIT - wow ok, brain fog is real, make that two weeks late for dry January..
that’s cute and all but dry January has nothing to do with sobriety
grow a mustache or something
Step by step, day by day. No reason to disparage a first step. Maybe at end of January he decides to go longer. Support the effort, no sanctimonious AA shit, please.Quote:
Originally Posted by ~mikey b
Day 11 and counting……Not enjoying it, TBH, but ima keep going, I hope..
yeah it’s my shitty attitude that the AA folks don’t likeQuote:
Originally Posted by irul&ublo
I just find the dry January shit to be a bit silly
Pretty sure I've supported you in the past but hey you do you pal.Quote:
Originally Posted by ~mikey b
you have and I’m sorry
I’m just grouchy
home sick with the COVID
thanks for calling me out on my shit
You think YOU'RE fucking grouchy - after a lifetime of drinking lagers I had just discovered tequila cocktail's lol.
Edit Hope you kick covids ass and get over that shit asap.
Make it through today/tonight. Tomorrow isn't until tomorrow. Deal with tomorrow then.Quote:
Originally Posted by seano732
I'd wager that a non-insignificant amount of people discovered the depth of their problem or used sober Jan as a "shared goal" when life long sobriety seemed impossible.
Positive thoughts to everyone here fighting the demons
Seeing this pop up again is just another reminder that I really am better off sober
There are so many out there with this one thing in common
My last drink was December 12th. In the morning
I know I won’t have a drink today
But. Coffee - Too much coffee
Good luck to all. I’m planning to jump on a zoom meeting later tonight
Hey everybody! (Hiiii Alex) Don't spend much time in TPR but just ran across this thread. First off, big support to all of you fighting the good fight. For myself, I didn't start drinking regularly until I was a few months into 21 and didn't consume cannabis until I was 22 (after a blackout binge night in which my wallet and cell phone got stolen from me while passed out). After 10+ years of steady (350-360 days a year) but self-proclaimed 'controlled' consumption of alcohol and cannabis, I decided this year to try and be sober more days than not (n+1). I'm proud to say that three weeks in I'm sitting at 14 days sober, 7 days of consumption, only 3-4 of which included cannabis. And those days I've consumed have been well below my average daily consumption of years prior. It's amazing how quickly my mindset has changed, and now my use has much more intention and focus. Far less compulsion. I don't see myself as ever being 100% sober. I really enjoy certain elements of both alcohol and cannabis. But I'm really happy and proud to feel like I have much more control over my use, and to be far exceeding the goal I initially set at the start of the year. Anyways, thanks for letting me share.
It's not really about how many days a year I drink or don't drink. Even if I only drink 5 times in an entire year, odds of something bad happening or getting ridiculously wasted at least of of those 5 times would be pretty high. If I could drink just 2 or three every single time I'd probably be fine drinking as many days as I want.. There is such a thing as "normal" daily drinking IMO.. Mom could do that just fine. Dad got wasted at least once a week.. I got dad's genes when it comes to alcohol cravings..
Yep. Usually these kinds of drinkers are highly successful in life/business but one drink instantly leads to wild nights.Quote:
Originally Posted by SumJongGuy
"I rarely ever drink though....like a few times a year!" --- a couple beers with the boys turns into naked blacked out in some casino at 5 the next morning.
Reiterating this: You don't have to be under a bridge for it to be "bad enough". I've seen guys with multiple business and 75+ employees basically drink themselves to death. It's bad enough when it feels bad enough.
You don't need 7 DUIs, 2 divorces, jail time, etc to earn your place in recovery.
I'm in week 7 now of no alcohol. I eat weed for anxiety, ptsd and my ADD, I have no plans to stop that. It really works well for me and I don't take enough to ever feel stupid high unless that's my goal. Alcohol and nicotine though has been my go to self medication on and off since high school. It's definitely had a shit ton of negative impacts on my life so I decided to stop 7 weeks ago.
So far, it's been pretty easy. I micro dose weed throughout the day and it totally takes care of my desire for booze and nicotine. I didn't know that could work so well! It's awesome.
The only issue I'm having now is my diet. I think my body is craving sugar and carbs like crazy now that I removed the alcohol. I'm eating a lot of candy. I thought after stopping drinking I'd see immediate results losing weight and so far nuthin. Now I think I might have to quit sugar or eat least cut candy out. I didn't see that one coming. Weird.
I didn't gain weight until I gave up nicotine. Not horrible long term, maybe a pound a year. But, initially like 20 pounds in the first year tobacco free. I had room for that though, and I was working out to it wasn't all fat. I was a total flyweight back in those days.
I'm cross addicted. I know if I smoke weed, I'll crave beer massively. I had surgery and got prescribed Tylenol with codeine. Didn't cause me to slip but I was glad when the surgery recovery was over and pills were gone. Weed isn't all that much different than tobacco or caffeine. If it's not a substitute for alcohol..i.e. no alcohol doesn't cause you to compensate with more weed it's probably fine.
Also, one thing at a time. I kept smoking cigarettes for five years in to alcohol recovery before I successfully quit those.
Anyone been to treatment in an mj legal state? They let people smoke cigarettes in most treatment centers (outside of course).
When I gave up booze I got really into prunes and dark chocolate almonds. I ate them like crazy and still dropped weight, getting fiber and fat while addressing the sugar fix.Quote:
Originally Posted by raisingarizona13
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After a little over 500 days, daughter fell off the wagon 3 weeks ago. One drink and instantly to the bottom again. Just saw her doc, and was scored 5 points away from being admitted to the ICU for a detox. Refused inpatient treatment.
FML
Wow vibes. My worst fear is that my kids, age 18 and 19 like drinking the way I did at their age.Quote:
Originally Posted by TNKen
In other news, the treasurer from my home group got married in October to someone else in the program. Last contact with either of them was some Christmas Day social media posts that seemed benign. Now they've both gone totally dark, not responding to messages or returning calls. The guy I know had at least 5 years. Hope they make it back someday, hopefully soon. We only had $100 in the bank so not worried about the funds.. People>stuff..
Although its nothing like the big ski towns, where she lives is a tiny resort town. Alcohol and drugs is the norm for the locals.
At least she will admit that nothing is going to change until she gets out of there.
Definitely gotta get away from the party crowd one way or another. Moving is good as long as she doesn't just go find that same scene in the new location. I know I did that pretty immediately with every move before getting sober. Now I find the sober crowd instead.Quote:
Originally Posted by TNKen
Hey guys - just thought I would chime in here. I've never had an unhealthy relationship with alcohol, but I have felt like I drank more than I would have liked (roughly 5-10 drinks a week on average, not that that matters), but I did drink with extreme regularity - lately that's been having a drink with dinner 4 or so nights a week, and then often two drinks a day on weekends.
Anyway. Sorry if this isn't welcome here - not trying to invade a space designed for people who have a VERY different set of challenges - but I've been alcohol free for the past 8 days, largely due to my marriage crisis (you can watch my self destruction in the Tammy Wynette thread if you want some internet voyeurism). I'm embarrassed to say this, but that's been the longest I've been without a drink in probably 7 years. I have no intention of drinking in the short term; at least not while I'm in crisis, and I am surprised at how great I feel without alcohol. Even without drinking that much - not drinking is a remarkable improvement on my overall health and well-being.
god i am so sorry to hear that. shit. that is rough.Quote:
Originally Posted by TNKen
vibes man. hang in there. both of you are in my thoughts.