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Navarro stepped up and I told my son he's one of my favorites...and then he hit Mach 2 over cliffs in variable snow...phew! Then that damn gap thing...ugh! Was such a bummer as a spectator rooting for that guy.
Tabke's run was again so damn fun to watch. Reine's most impressive thing was that bottom boost into chunder imho...I agree that he should have won but maybe just barely. Ross's run was pretty rad especially if you compare his fluidity, speed & aggressive/solid upper body.
Yeah, great run from Regner Eriksson. It's only a matter of time until he's at the top of the podium.Quote:
Originally Posted by Atrain505
Kind of agreed, but he's skiing similar lines almost year round. His instagram is filled with clips of him doing gnarly shit that's easily on par with that line. There (historically) have been guys on the tour that seemed like they were pushed outside of their comfort zone in search of a result, but Navarro seems pretty comfortable on those sort of big technical lines. I actually think the FWT has done a pretty good job of heavily penalizing mistakes in a way that makes the riders stay within their abilities. These days, it's usually the qualifier events that have some scarier skiing in them - young guys pushing hard to make a name for themselves.Quote:
Originally Posted by kathleenturneroverdrive
Got me. I deleted that post as I don't really want to crap on the guy. I'm def not saying he's not a good skier. He crushes. It's just that his comp style is sometimes a few inches from disaster, or just out of control. Fieberbrunn showed both sides of that pretty well.
The kids and I always score the runs for fun. I can usually get within a point or two of the judges. I had Carl at a 91 and a win with the added 360 but in my heart I didn’t think he had won. He seems just a little out of control still like I’m a bit scared watching him whereas Reine is full on stomptown and a total thrill to see.
Navarro made a strategic error going for the gap. It was in rough shape, had been hit a couple of times, and guys weren't getting rewarded that well for it. He could have hit something mellower down low and still would have won. That top section was absolutely bonkers.
I wonder if the judges docked Reine a bit because he landed the rollover air into big rollers balls/debris. Kind of like how they'll dock points for landing on a rock even if you stomp it.
If Navarro's ski stayed on he would have been fine I feel. Also, if you advance this a frame at a time (sort of) it defintely looks like he clipped a rock on his landing up top with the tail of his left ski.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwWNcgvfi58
^^^
I’ve definitely screamed at salomon bindings like that before.
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He would have gotten a score, but would not have been "fine."Quote:
Originally Posted by powdork
He crashed because his ski came off.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dantheman
I've really like lots of the clips I've seen of Navarro, but that was on another level. It sucks to see him lose it on something trivial after doing something nuts.
WTF are you talking about? If you think doing the canyon gap is trivial you know shit about this kinda things.Quote:
Originally Posted by Long duc dong
It's not trivial but it definitely seemed easier than in years past. Probably because with the low snow level there was more of a lip this year. It was one of the more common hits this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by roQer
I'm not seeing that in the video.Quote:
Originally Posted by powdork
He got bucked on the landing, I agree with DtM... but he fell either way and had equipment come off, so it's moot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dantheman
Yeah, he was going to crater into that drift whether his skis were on or offQuote:
Originally Posted by grskier
It definitely came off about 15-20’ before he cratered the wall. He may still have crashed but I’ve seen him pull off crazy shitQuote:
Originally Posted by Dantheman
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edit- although best case scenario it was still going to be a control issue of some sort
Except he fell/his run was doomed about a millisecond after he landed. The POV clip shows it well - he landed wrong/sat down on his tails on impact. Then his ski came off. Then your screengrabs happened.
I suspect it was one of those scenarios where something goes wrong (in this case line/trajectory of the gap air, janky landing maybe) and you see ahead it’s not make-able so everything that happens after is just trying to ditch safely... like throwing a shoe may have been more because he knew he was nuking right at that wall and needed to try something to dump speed before he cratered into it.
Or not... you know... hard to say definitively.
As someone who has made that high speed bucked on impact landing more times than I'd like to admit, he was going not going to make that....
Those screen grabs are a lot more obvious than the POV clip. Still, I'm with total_immortal, he was going to crater regardless. If you look at how his skis got crossed up mid-air pre-auger in the POV I'm calling that a reasonable binding release, not a pre-release.Quote:
Originally Posted by powdork
Marcel Hirscher with the biggest and cleanest canyon gap. Why wasn't he in the comp?
https://www.instagram.com/p/CMb_UZ2D..._web_copy_link
Yeah seems like he was trying to turn uphill to avoid the wall while he was bucked in the back seat which is when they're designed to come off even at whatever his are set at.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dantheman
I dunno. He kinda flailed his arms a little bit.Quote:
Originally Posted by total_immortal
Right? Like Candide. Gross.Quote:
Originally Posted by toast2266
What’s really missing from the tour is the sickbird award. When I completed lots of guys were as interested in that as they were winning. I’m guessing the fwt doesn’t do that so as to not encourage more craziness
Tgr forumz unofficial sickbird belt buckleQuote:
Originally Posted by altacoup
Clearly this last round goes to Aymar.
Last year... Yu Sasaki?
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Yes. Definitely.Quote:
Originally Posted by ill-advised strategy
For sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by ill-advised strategy
2020 Sick Bird - How about Hank Bilous and the Japan transfer air? So cool. Then if you combine the air he sent next to the canyon gap in Fieberbrunn with the Japan transfer air he might take it over Yu. That was fun going back and watching the highlights, I'd forgotten about his run at Fieberbrunn. That....was......awesome!!!
Yeah, Hank’s ability to look totally flung cat messed-up and fighting for balance in the air and just casually suck it all back together for a tidy stomped landing is just mind blowing to me. That’s somebody with a different kind of wiring and a crazy skill set for sure.
I don't think it is as serious as what he was doing before. I would not call it trivial in general, but it is trivial in comparison to that crazy straightline. I would call it far less serious than what he was doing before. So trivial in comparison to that straightline. What he did up above made that gap seem trivial in comparison. The commentators were blown away by what he did up top and seemed bummed when he crashed. I echo their sentiments. Get over yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by roQer
I respect Navarro for not resting on his laurels so to speak, he probably could have taken it easy the rest of the run. In some sense I wish he had. That upper section was just so sick, it impressed me more than anything else anyone did. It's a shame he didn't at least get closer to the podium after that. I like Ross Tester's run, I like what Reine did particularly, but I have re-watched what Navarro did more than any of the other runs. It was the moment of the comp, at least for me. It's a shame he couldn't finish the rest of his line clean. In fact, that was the coolest thing I have seen on the FWT this year. Not a scientific opinion, just calling it as I see it.
I'm both excited and scared to see what Navarro is going to do on the bec.
That run actually vaguely reminded me of the feeling I got watching the 2000 Gravity Games with Guerlain Chicherit. That line, I think it's now called Frenchie's at Mammoth, was simply far and away crazier than anything anyone else did at that comp. I was actually looking up at that area on Sunday and thinking 'how the fuck did Guerlain see a line there?' He saw a line the others simply did not see. And that comp had some great names skiing very well. When I watched Guerlain I couldn't believe just how different his view of the mountain was. I think McConkey won that contest, but I will always remember what Chicherit did that day.
I can't seem to quickly find a video of Chcherit's line. I'm sure it is somewhere on this site. Watching Navarro made me feel like that.
Comp on for Sunday or Monday. Riders scoping. The Bec looks magnificent Attachment 367805
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Reine Barkered FTW
https://instagram.com/stories/reineb...d=i593r413auop
Anyone else going to watch? We're on our way down there now. Any idea on which day for the comp? Wife is gonna take a day off from skiing one of the days and she doesn't one to skip the wrong day (can't watch it).
I was under the impression it's difficult to watch live
We were expecting Sunday but they posted this earlier so looks like Monday Attachment 368008
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Doesn't look difficult to me?https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...46e4bf469b.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by powdork
Leo Slemett is back to Verbier with a wildcard.
It’s not difficult. Everyone watches it from Col des Gentianes where they also put up a big screen so you can watch the replays up close. Question is whether they are allowed to do it this year with COVID regs. There is already a load of filming gear up there but no info on watching regs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lindahl