2021 FORD BRONCO REVEAL

Of all the features that any of our vehicles have--from my 2017 Super Duty to the old Land Cruisers to my wife's german rocket ship-- NOTHING has changed my life like AC blowing out of the seats directly on to my balls. Ford has truly done some impressive engineering in their trucks over the years--I love the "old man step" that folds out of the tailgate; I really enjoy all the cameras on a truck that size, and yes, having a power plant that allows me to pass folks uphill while towing a stock trailer full of llamas is really nice. But cold, crisp air on my durf? Let's just say this little Bronco better have lungs if it's going to be a contender.

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Originally Posted by frorider

So no comments on that crazy high 4.70 supposed option? Both engine options have torque down low, so a factory ratio this high is a head scratcher. overkill for the 34.4” tires.

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You ever check out pricing on a regear if you can't do it yourself? If the axles can handle it, its kinda nice you can avoid that expense when you go to 37's.

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Originally Posted by The Reverend Floater

Of all the features that any of our vehicles have--from my 2017 Super Duty to the old Land Cruisers to my wife's german rocket ship-- NOTHING has changed my life like AC blowing out of the seats directly on to my balls. Ford has truly done some impressive engineering in their trucks over the years--I love the "old man step" that folds out of the tailgate; I really enjoy all the cameras on a truck that size, and yes, having a power plant that allows me to pass folks uphill while towing a stock trailer full of llamas is really nice. But cold, crisp air on my durf? Let's just say this little Bronco better have lungs if it's going to be a contender.

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Have you considered writing for Road and Track? I would read your articles

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Originally Posted by hawkgt

Have you considered writing for Road and Track? I would read your articles

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I'm flattered but if it's not a Ford Power Stroke, Superduty or a Toyota Land Cruiser, I'm likely not into it. And testicular air conditioning really is my passion, so narrow niche there.

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Originally Posted by El Chupacabra

I thought you were waiting for the Ed Hardy edition?

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Originally Posted by Brownski

I haven’t gone back through the whole thread. Does anybody have an idea of what the sticker price is gonna be?

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Waiting on the Sailor Jerry Ed....or is there only a craft IPA (you now, like "Sam Adams" ed.?

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Originally Posted by Jax

As high as you want.

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But also, not so low as to allow the hoi polloi into the club.

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Originally Posted by The Reverend Floater

And testicular air conditioning really is my passion, so narrow niche there.

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There’s potential for a witty reply to this mention of “narrow niche” and male genitalia but my coffee hasn’t kicked in and I’m struggling to come up with anything worthy.

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Originally Posted by Name Redacted

I think I'd rather have a Jeep than any of their iterations, and I actually kinda hate Jeeps. I just hate Ford more. But at least Jeep has a billion aftermarket parts that you can rebuild anything you want. It'll take a long time for that kind of thing to get out for a Ford.

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One thing that impressed me was the amount of aftermarket parts that are available for OG Broncos 40 years after introduction. Even small bushings and weird stuff. It seems like you could do an entire rebuild using third party stuff.

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Originally Posted by The Reverend Floater

I'm flattered but if it's not a Ford Power Stroke, Superduty or a Toyota Land Cruiser, I'm likely not into it. And testicular air conditioning really is my passion, so narrow niche there.

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With global warming, your base is expanding though.


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Originally Posted by AdironRider

You ever check out pricing on a regear if you can't do it yourself? If the axles can handle it, its kinda nice you can avoid that expense when you go to 37's.

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Dude that was my point. It’s as if they designed it with an AM mild lift and 37’s in mind, but no one is commenting on that.

And it’s worth repeating that we know the Bronco testing included SFA version, so speculation continues that a SFA version will be available at some point.

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Official leak looking good

4 tires, an ICE, transmission, more plastic than metal, looks like any other 4X4 concept short wheel base toy.
Meh. It's a broha toy based on mostly 50yr old tech, mass produced.

But you do you and spend on nostalgia. The money machine goes brrrrrr.

hopefully Ford has done their market research and the Bronco sells,

doesnt do it for me but I am only 1 data point==if its sells

If I was in the market for such a toy, I would pay a visit to exsparky, and see his scout. Rather pay the price for his labour of love, than pay ford for this shite any day of the week.

I can't think of any use I would have for a bronco , I think this far narth It might be too cold and come to think ofit you just don't see many

I wonder if they all rusted away ?

I wonder how many Bronco's ford is expecting to sell ?

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Originally Posted by BCMtnHound

If I was in the market for such a toy, I would pay a visit to exsparky, and see his scout. Rather pay the price for his labour of love, than pay ford for this shite any day of the week.

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This x1000

Older 4x4s are so much more badass than this will ever be (without heavy modification).

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Originally Posted by The Reverend Floater

Of all the features that any of our vehicles have--from my 2017 Super Duty to the old Land Cruisers to my wife's german rocket ship-- NOTHING has changed my life like AC blowing out of the seats directly on to my balls. Ford has truly done some impressive engineering in their trucks over the years--I love the "old man step" that folds out of the tailgate; I really enjoy all the cameras on a truck that size, and yes, having a power plant that allows me to pass folks uphill while towing a stock trailer full of llamas is really nice. But cold, crisp air on my durf? Let's just say this little Bronco better have lungs if it's going to be a contender.

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air conditioned and heated seats = divorce prevention


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I went lama wrassling last week which seemed to be about having lots of people to guide the Lamas into the barn to get sheared and then we drink beer

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Originally Posted by east or bust

This x1000

Older 4x4s are so much more badass than this will ever be (without heavy modification).

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I love old 4x4s and was excited to find a Scout on the block i just moved to. But that said, an older 4x4 would be more likely to be a lifestyle mobile to me than something like this. I just wouldn't feel comfortable taking something like an old Scout farther into the desert than from where I could walk home (unless exsparky was riding shotgun). For exploring out of the way places, I'd much rather have a newer Bronco/Jeep/4Runner/truck. "They don't make'em like they used to" complaints aside, modern vehicles are just much more reliable, even if they aren't as cool.

^^ They're undeniably safer too. There's no way my family would have walked away from the accident that totalled my 2012 Challenger in an old car.

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Originally Posted by warthog

Aww- Ford would love that. So nice of you.

If they are going up against Fiat and the Wrangler, they won't have to try too hard from a reliability standpoint.
The newer Jeeps have been pretty bad.

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My JKU is 6 years old and only had one issue which was a failed sensor replaced under warranty. Fingers crossed it's been perfect otherwise.

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Originally Posted by MarcusBrody

I love old 4x4s and was excited to find a Scout on the block i just moved to. But that said, an older 4x4 would be more likely to be a lifestyle mobile to me than something like this. I just wouldn't feel comfortable taking something like an old Scout farther into the desert than from where I could walk home (unless exsparky was riding shotgun). For exploring out of the way places, I'd much rather have a newer Bronco/Jeep/4Runner/truck. "They don't make'em like they used to" complaints aside, modern vehicles are just much more reliable, even if they aren't as cool.

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I would feel way more comfortable trying to fix an old shitbox in the middle of nowhere than any of the newer computer driven bullshit any day. However new tech doesn't leave you stranded quite in the same way as older vehicles.

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Originally Posted by lifelinksplit

I would feel way more comfortable trying to fix an old shitbox in the middle of nowhere than any of the newer computer driven bullshit any day. However new tech doesn't leave you stranded quite in the same way as older vehicles.

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Same. I carried tools in my 97 7.3 cause I figured if something breaks, I can likely at least jerry rig it to get to the next town. In my 2012 F150, I carry the same tools but I'll probably need a tow truck if the truck is on the side of the road not running.

I'm probably going to want a new Bronco just like I kind of want a Gladiator, but at this point I don't even enjoy my F150 that much. I've been contemplating getting rid of it and going back to an older truck and DD combo. Modern cars are nice and all, but it just doesn't do anything for me. I feel the same way about the Bronco. I just wish I would have bought a clean 90s Bronco before they started getting scarce and becoming stupidly priced.

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Originally Posted by VTeton

My JKU is 6 years old and only had one issue which was a failed sensor replaced under warranty. Fingers crossed it's been perfect otherwise.

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I am hearing the JL is much worse, but you only hear the bad reports mostly.

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Originally Posted by lifelinksplit

I would feel way more comfortable trying to fix an old shitbox in the middle of nowhere than any of the newer computer driven bullshit any day. However new tech doesn't leave you stranded quite in the same way as older vehicles.

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I won't disagree that old vehicles are often more field serviceable for minor things. But a lot of the minor things you might have to field service on an old vehicle basically never break on new vehicles (sometimes because they don't exist).

I don't have a perfect apples to apples comparison, but I had to field repair and limp home my 1978 Yamaha XS 650 multiple times in the relatively limited amount of miles I have put on it. I've literally never had to attempt any field repairs on any of the modern cars I've owned or motorcycles I've ridden that didn't involve tires and windshield wipers. Not saying that they don't come about, just that they are so much less frequent that I'm much more comfortable with modern vehicles in more remote places even if the chance I can fix issues that did come up is lower.

Plus, as gravitylover mentions, modern vehicles have become amazingly safe, which matters to me more than ever now that I have a kid.

So I still want an old 4x4. It would just be my lifestyle vehicle which I took out every so often to drive when I was with friends or wasn't going to far, but I want a more modern vehicle when I'm going long distances, esp. if it's in the middle of nowhere.

Anecdotally, I’ve driven my ‘97 LC to some pretty crazy and far off places and never been stranded. I’ve had to hike to cell service and wait patiently in my ‘13 F150 twice for sensor failures. A third time it at least went in to limp mode and driving at 15 mph is faster than walking.

If we are comparing the new Bronco to my ‘72, I’d trust the new version a lot more.

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Originally Posted by Conundrum

Anecdotally, I’ve driven my ‘97 LC to some pretty crazy and far off places and never been stranded. I’ve had to hike to cell service and wait patiently in my ‘13 F150 twice for sensor failures. A third time it at least went in to limp mode and driving at 15 mph is faster than walking.

If we are comparing the new Bronco to my ‘72, I’d trust the new version a lot more.

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This is what I was alluding to. The only sensor in my 97 powerstroke that was likely to fail and leave me stranded was the CPS, so I carried a spare and could swap it in 10 minutes. When there was an ignition issue, I jumped the starter solenoid in camp and drove home

My 12 F150 has sensors that I don't even know where to find, or what they do. If I had a no crank due to anything other then a dead battery, I wouldn't even know where to start troubleshooting. There is just so much more to go wrong in a modern vehicle. Sure it is less likely to fail, but things can fail in ways that don't exist on older vehicles.

The safety thing is very real though. Also comfort.

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Originally Posted by Conundrum

Anecdotally, I’ve driven my ‘97 LC to some pretty crazy and far off places and never been stranded. I’ve had to hike to cell service and wait patiently in my ‘13 F150 twice for sensor failures. A third time it at least went in to limp mode and driving at 15 mph is faster than walking.

If we are comparing the new Bronco to my ‘72, I’d trust the new version a lot more.

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I barely consider a 97 old (particularly for a Land Cruiser). I was more thinking of the 70s, carbureted era trucks when I was thinking of the old 4x4s that I lust after but wouldn't want as my primary vehicle. But you're right, anything can go tits up on you. I just think it's less likely in modern vehicles so I'm more confident in them.

Do we know the power train options yet for the new Bronco?

Ford - “here’s our new Bronco!”

Jeep - “that’s cute”

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.tfl...his-image/amp/

V8 Wrangler!

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Originally Posted by AdironRider

Ford - “here’s our new Bronco!”

Jeep - “that’s cute”

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.tfl...his-image/amp/

V8 Wrangler!

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Lame, they should put the eco diesel in it.


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They already do.

A gas Fiat V8? What could go wrong?

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Originally Posted by The Reverend Floater

A gas Fiat V8? What could go wrong?

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Well, if it makes it more than 80K it’ll be doing far better than the V8 in my Ford did.

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Still accurate.

Now my FIL is have problems with his Ecoboost and it is only ~40K. Dealer says there nothing wrong. Takes it on a trip towing a trailer. Ford dies in the middle of nowhere leaving them stranded.

200k on 2003 exploder V8. Car owes me nothing and has been reliable AF.

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Originally Posted by mooseknuckle

200k on 2003 exploder V8. Car owes me nothing and has been reliable AF.

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That’s great for you, because if yours had died like mine did, while under warranty, they’d use every truck in the book to get out of paying for it.

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Well, if it makes it more than 80K it’ll be doing far better than the V8 in my Ford did.

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Still accurate.

Now my FIL is have problems with his Ecoboost and it is only ~40K. Dealer says there nothing wrong. Takes it on a trip towing a trailer. Ford dies in the middle of nowhere leaving them stranded.

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Yes, we are all very aware of the trials and tribulations you've faced.

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Originally Posted by The Reverend Floater

Yes, we are all very aware of the trials and tribulations you've faced.

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Good. If I can talk one person out of buying anything from them I’ll feel better.

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A fine example in Aspen.

Notice how Jeep went upmarket with the teaser of a V8. They know what Ford is doing and have been waiting for their announcement to steal a little thunder and retain some of the market that only cares about how big of an engine they can stuff in it. "muh Hemi"

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Originally Posted by Shredhead

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A fine example in Aspen.

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Very steezy and probably worth a ton with true mountain man tires and stock fender wells.

Saw a specimen Plymouth trail duster on interstate last week. Clean and deadly roll bar optional approach to the OG bronco!

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Originally Posted by Shredhead

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A fine example in Aspen.

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Agreed. The Bronco is also pretty fine.