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This may have been discussed before but what exactly is the money making metric on this? I can guess the economics is that huge numbers buy it and then don't ski really at all. Because even 3-4 days at the most expensive resorts covers the cost of this pass.
Why not go the GEM card route? Why not do much more aggressive price scheduling (midweek vs. weekend vs. holidays)?
Just realized Eldora is unlimited. Both WP and Eldora will be overwhelmed with people wanting to avoid the tunnel metering and all that weekend bullshit. I talk to so many people who have had it.
So for Alta and Snowbird skiers they can still buy a traditional season pass with no days elsewhere or maybe just the Wasatch Benefit.
Well its $400 more for the wife and I to ski the same terrain next season. That is not winning in my book. We own in Mammoth and have no desire to travel to other destinations. For those that do travel good for you.
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Originally Posted by The SnowShow
I used to look at WP and Eldora as a solution. But the craziness at WP (both resort and the drive) and the lack of terrain at Eldora aren't really a solution.
there hasnt been different pass prices with or without wasatch benefits..it was only early season and after end september. $999 early and $1199 after the early price expired..the wasatch benefits part of it is limited to the first X amount of pass buyers...so even if you buy pre price raise you might still not get the extra day benefits dueto too many buying before you.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigdude2468
Least thats how i've always seen it..i'd love a cheaper pass option that didnt even consider the wasatch extra resort days., but those are just like a bonus for buying early.
It's not great for anyone who wants unlimited days, but with the Jackson days it could be pretty attractive to certain people. 7 strategically used Alta/Bird days, 7 days of groomer shred at DV, and 7 days at Jackson is a pretty respectable season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skidog
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Originally Posted by doebedoe
As an Epic Pass holder I am stoked about this new pass!
Hopefully big numbers of people will switch to the IKON pass and I can enjoy reduced crowds at beaver creek.
I agree that WP will see lots more traffic from this. But I doubt Eldora will see that much increase over the past few years. They've been on the Epic Pass and then the RMSP+ for a few years now. I just don't see that many people buying this pass because of Eldora or even just going to Eldora a bunch because now they have it on their pass.Quote:
Originally Posted by The SnowShow
Your move Loveland. What you got ?
There have been crowds at Beaver Creek?Quote:
Originally Posted by WTF is dat
End days... :nonono2:
Hopefully nothing. Maybe get those few days at CB back without lodging. Or add a few more bonus days somewhere like Taos or Wolf.Quote:
Originally Posted by hatchgreenchile
Or in a dream world, convince ABasin to give Vail the finger, run shuttles between the two, and create "The Basins" pass.
With Ikon Base, my home mountain will probably be more busy. But I get a ton more days at awesome places.
I guess the answer is, "we will see". If anyone has an extra home is one of the premium destinations, give me first dibs before AirBnB.
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I'm with doebedoe. Why should Loveland do anything? Seems like they're doing just fine.
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Early season pricing this year for mammoth lift only pass was $800. Would've likely gone up to $900 this year. Don't see what the gripe is.Quote:
Originally Posted by TWINS
That be a nice dream, but the odds are low. More 3 day partnerships be great !Quote:
Originally Posted by doebedoe
IKON landed quite the upper cut today, but we’ll see what epic, the collective hills and other players respond with. I look forward to seeing if any other pass options surface in the coming months .
Yah, I know people who buy 10 time SB passes for $650 and would def travel to JH on the weekends.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dantheman
Loveland will counter with cat skiing into Dry Gulch and relocating the old decommissioned lift between the Valley and the Basin up Mt Trelease.
Actually $699.Quote:
Originally Posted by KillerMonkey
$799 for the premium.
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Originally Posted by Skidog
My question was not very clear. As Snowbird and Alta will not have unlimited access with an IKON pass I wonder if we will have the same season pass options currently available? Alta offers 10 pack powder cards that are transferable. We buy a couple of those each season and use them for family and friends that come out and ski with us, hope that does not go away.
I imagine it won't go away. No Alta offerings changed with mtn collective I assume same will hold true for the ikonQuote:
Originally Posted by bigdude2468
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Has Winter Park been noticeably more crowded during the weekdays over the past few years?
this is what i want. I got a season pass at Loveland and a weekday pass at A Basin. wish theyd do a pass for both.Quote:
Originally Posted by doebedoe
As a Denver skier there are pluses and minuses. Pluses are some awesome places that are drivable. However, I think Copper and WP will be more crowded for day trips. With a 2-year-old and another coming in April getting to the new resorts for a multi day trip won’t be easy.
I hope Vail comes out with something awesome so people stay there.
I don't ski weekdays much, but it sure is on powder weekdays.Quote:
Originally Posted by The SnowShow
Lots of east and west.
Stratton is my only choice for unlimited? For real? Fucking Stratton?
Go On Now
Very much so. 2nd homos come up the night before. Non pow days, not so much. Honestly, everything that was great about this valley ain't so great anymore. I never thought I would say this but I might have to make some changes after next year.Quote:
Originally Posted by The SnowShow
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Would you prefer Okemo?Quote:
Originally Posted by buttahflake
It’s better than Stratton. I would prefer Killington.
I found this while digging through their FAQs:Quote:
Originally Posted by KillerMonkey
CAN I USE MY 2018-2019 IKON PASS TO SKI OR RIDE AT PARTICIPATING DESTINATIONS DURING SPRING 2018?
Yes. You can use your 2018-2019 Ikon Pass or Ikon Base Pass starting March 6, 2018 at Big Bear Mountain Resort, June Mountain, Blue Mountain and Snowshoe; and starting on April 9, 2018 at Winter Park Resort, Squaw Valley Alpine Meadows and Mammoth Mountain.
This makes it sound even better to me.
I find it interesting that some people think this is a great deal while others think it’s a shit deal.
NE got fucked. I'd take Sunapee/Okemo over Flatton. I heard Boyne is doing a sun>fri pass, I may hold out for that.Quote:
Originally Posted by buttahflake
Its a NY/CT pass now. Flatton/k/Bush.
Come on Biff.
Is this going to be an add on to season passes like the maxpass?
Evidently, no.Quote:
Originally Posted by Benny Profane
Yeah, I have a tendency to always assume every skier wants to get at least 50 days a year, when in reality most are happy to get 10. Probably not a bad option for a fair amount of Utah skiers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dantheman
Great pass with prices for us students that get that $479. Everyone can say goodbye to the Winter Park/Jane that we've known for years(I know it is a shit show right now on weekends but this is going to take it to the next level once people start dropping Epic for Ikon because they want try something new).
Any word on whether cheap 4 packs at Copper and WP will go away or get way more expensive? I’d selfishly be ok with those disappearing since those people may go elsewhere, I think.
The EB Berthoud backups next year will start at 1st Creek all weekend.
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Originally Posted by WTF is dat
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Originally Posted by wolfelot
This is the million $ question. Will enough people vacate Epic and make Ikon a shit show while VR are deserted or will enough stay Epic and allow Ikon to be be an escape? Ikon has me excited for something different (though I don’t love the local unlimited options) but the fear of sub par terrain choices combined with massive crowds has be thinking twice. At least there’s good options for road trips....Quote:
Originally Posted by The SnowShow