Go Fast Campers, new mag product

This thread is full of stupid. Mag creates a wildly successful product that delivers to a niche market and haters have to shit on it.

Same people are still asking why they'd want a microwave when they have a propane oven. Why use rockered skis when your Gotamas get down the hill? You sound like my dad and he's old as fuck. I don't own a GFC, likely never will, but I know success when I see it.

Regardless, pretty sure Single doesn't give a shit because he created something special. Why not celebrate the dude?

My buddy got one for his Tundra late summer. He and his wife are loving it. Built a slick gear storage system in the bed, and the whole thing seems like a great setup. The GFC itself is very well built and easy to operate. I'm impressed

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Originally Posted by The Reverend Floater

You sound like my dad and he's old as fuck.

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My dad is almost 70 and owns a GFC. He got one of the first units they made. He's camping in it in Death Valley right now. Loves it.

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Originally Posted by The Reverend Floater

This thread is full of stupid. Mag creates a wildly successful product that delivers to a niche market and haters have to shit on it.

Same people are still asking why they'd want a microwave when they have a propane oven. Why use rockered skis when your Gotamas get down the hill? You sound like my dad and he's old as fuck. I don't own a GFC, likely never will, but I know success when I see it.

Regardless, pretty sure Single doesn't give a shit because he created something special. Why not celebrate the dude?

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I was sort of surprised when I started seeing these all over the place. Definitely a popular product.

I think I've said it before but I really kick myself for not getting in at the beginning. Likely wont be able to afford one otherwise. I'm not a fan of rooftop tents but love the camper setup and props to single for creating such a huge demand for his product. I used to love seeing his creations around Bozeman before he released the GFC. You see them everywhere around MT. Guess I'll keep sleeping under my regular topper.

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Originally Posted by The Reverend Floater

This thread is full of stupid. Mag creates a wildly successful product that delivers to a niche market and haters have to shit on it.

Same people are still asking why they'd want a microwave when they have a propane oven. Why use rockered skis when your Gotamas get down the hill? You sound like my dad and he's old as fuck. I don't own a GFC, likely never will, but I know success when I see it.

Regardless, pretty sure Single doesn't give a shit because he created something special. Why not celebrate the dude?

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Yeah, what the Rev said. These things are sweet, I’d have one if I could bring myself to wait over a year for one.

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Originally Posted by lifelinksplit

I think I've said it before but I really kick myself for not getting in at the beginning. Likely wont be able to afford one otherwise. I'm not a fan of rooftop tents but love the camper setup and props to single for creating such a huge demand for his product. I used to love seeing his creations around Bozeman before he released the GFC. You see them everywhere around MT. Guess I'll keep sleeping under my regular topper.

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Same here.

Yeah initially the sightings were rare but I’ve seen em all over ID, OR, NV, UT...

Also cool to have read Simple’s description of the custom parts they had to figure out, like the hinge assembly, and then see em in real life & think Yup those are burly AF.

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Originally Posted by The Reverend Floater

This thread is full of stupid. Mag creates a wildly successful product that delivers to a niche market and haters have to shit on it.

Same people are still asking why they'd want a microwave when they have a propane oven. Why use rockered skis when your Gotamas get down the hill? You sound like my dad and he's old as fuck. I don't own a GFC, likely never will, but I know success when I see it.

Regardless, pretty sure Single doesn't give a shit because he created something special. Why not celebrate the dude?

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I am willing to give some a pass, as it seems like they didn't even read the thread title, never mind the beginning of the thread.
I can't think that many mags would want to shit on one of our own's success story.
I love what he did, especially seeing all the cool engineering and CAD jiggering that went into the initial details in the beginning.
It really spoke to me as a shade tree truck restoration amateur. I only wish I had half the skill of Single.

Edit- looks like Frorider beat me to it. The engineering and outside the box freeform is what I like most about this success story. It is what truly makes it his own product and not just a knockoff or improvement on others. That is really special, no matter what the product. He's like an entrepreneur and shit.

As the one that bumped the thread, here is my take:

Wife and I used to camp, she didn't mind sleeping on the ground when younger. Now her requirements will be an indoor shitter and hard-sides (bear phobia). Have you priced trailers or RVs lately? I'm seeing teardrops for 20k and even used trailers are 20k for something decent. The reality is that she would see it as a novelty and ultimately not camp as much as I'd like. Chock that up to 30yrs of marriage and experience.

So, I was looking at a topper for the truck. $2500 for a basic version, something to hid the bike and maybe create a sleeping platform for just myself. Then, I think for another 6k I can be into a GFC and have some real comfort for myself. As said above, the reality is that she won't be joining me. I could have this always ready and slip away for a quick overnighter in the woods, solo. Get to some remote spots that won't work by pulling a trailer. Plus, I'd bet that I could sell this in 5yrs for cost, or close to it.

I'm pretty bummed I didn't hop on the list. I had my finger on the button when it was released but knew I was switching trucks in the near future. Even chatted with Single about adapting to the new truck and couldn't so I waited. Then the lead time was too far out and I bought a normal topper for my new pickup. Still think it's a great concept. Had I got one, I could have sold my van.

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Originally Posted by Iowagriz

I could have this always ready

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THIS!

Convenience is the key, sleeping in a tent on the ground is fine, but rolling up to the TH in the dark, unloading your shit, finding a site, setting the damn thing up, tearing it down, sleeping on the cold ground.... if I had the money I'd take the GFC.

I’m going to have my eyes peeled, I hope to see one of these in person.

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Originally Posted by lifelinksplit

I think I've said it before but I really kick myself for not getting in at the beginning. Likely wont be able to afford one otherwise.

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I wouldn't have one if it hadn't been for the pre-order. The free delivery/install (by single) made a good deal even better. The crazy thing is, I could still sell it for what I paid. I wouldn't mind having the new tent material and an AL frame, but I don't plan on getting rid of this thing anytime soon and I can't afford it anyway.

A quick camping option that lets me keep a truck bed with a topper and doesn't get in the way is key. I haven't done as many planned trips as I thought I would, but impromptu camping has more than made up for that. Family obligations mean I'm often mountain biking at dawn, so I either get up at the ass crack, or I leave after dinner the night before, park at the TH, pop it up and conk out. I can be on the bike just as early, but better rested and stoked that I did some camping. Last minute trips are easy cause I can just toss stuff in the bed and not worry about having to have organized bins and shit that I have to move around and take out. I'm camping a lot more now than I was before I had it. If I get a bug, I can do a quick overnighter with no prep, no setup, no teardown or post camp tent shenanigans, just need a bag and a pillow (that I keep in the truck).

It is tight up top. Young bros or a young couple are probably fine with it, but I find it pretty cramped with two adults. It's definitely a solo or dad and kids rig for me. My wife and I sleep in separate beds, though, so maybe I'm not the best judge of sleeping space.

Ha! Me, the wife and 2 dogs(husky and golden) sleep in the back of her 4th gen 4runner. It was be like a mansion![emoji6]

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They seem really nice!

I’ve seen some pretty funny and awkward RTT set-ups where parking was very limited and there was nothing close to flat ground around. The same problem exists whenever sleeping in a vehicle.

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Originally Posted by jackattack

THIS!

Convenience is the key, sleeping in a tent on the ground is fine, but rolling up to the TH in the dark, unloading your shit, finding a site, setting the damn thing up, tearing it down, sleeping on the cold ground.... if I had the money I'd take the GFC.

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This for sure. I've slept on the ground for years. It works great a lot of the time, but can suck when it's cold and windy out. We often can't have campfires in socal. So what do you do from sunset at 5-6pm til bedtime? Being able to hang out inside with head room is a game changer for coldish weather camping.

And then there's the easy quick setup aspect. Many RTTs take as long or longer to set up and put away than my tent, and a lot longer than my bivy which I often use. Even when that takes just a couple mins I'll often just sleep in the driver seat when I arrive late, especially if I need to be up early. The tent camper setup is super quick. Undo 2 latches and give it a push. Lay out bag and pillow, which stay right below. Putting it away takes about a minute. And super comfy to sleep in.

I didn't go with GFC but rather a competitor based on lead time. Have almost 2 wks in it already and loving it. I never would have bought a regular RTT but this thing is awesome.

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Originally Posted by evdog

We often can't have campfires in socal. So what do you do from sunset at 5-6pm til bedtime?

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Outland propane fire pit and a 5 gallon propane tank is a game-changer.

Been said a few times now, but the draw for me for these kinds of things, rtt's included, is the easy pull off into a turnout well after midnight on some random fsr road, find 2 rocks to level the vehicle, and take all of one minute in the dark to set up your "tent". It's faster to take down in the am too.

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Originally Posted by dannynoonan

Been said a few times now, but the draw for me for these kinds of things, rtt's included, is the easy pull off into a turnout well after midnight on some random fsr road, find 2 rocks to level the vehicle, and take all of one minute in the dark to set up your "tent". It's faster to take down in the am too.

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Yea that, a built in dead flat insulated sleeping surface for the cold and an elevated tent platform for additional air movement in the heat. Not to mention not fearing getting run over in the middle of the night if your sleeping in a parking lot.

Also the camper allowing you all the benefits of a truck cab and then some plus camper... The truck cab I just priced is $3k.

If you enter it from the inside, don’t you sort of need some empty space in the truck bed to stand/climb up? If it’s fully loaded with gear, doesn’t that mean you still end up having to move stuff around to get in/out?

I've got one on order, probably about 6 months out. My plan will be a drawer system. This has worked great in my current land cruiser setup to keep the majority of our camping gear inside of. Even with the drawers I should still have plenty of standing room height.

I'm coming from an existing RTT setup. Just recently I had a friend ask me if they are worth it. It's hard to say for someone else but for me and my wife, there's no way in hell we'd go back to a ground tent. That said, we camp 50+ nights a year, often a good bit more than that.

Thanks for linking that video. These are sweet Single! Solid construction is so key.

My only request would be a dog/airflow window/door on the side panels. Not sure if that would affect the structure in a negative way.

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Originally Posted by dfinn

I've got one on order, probably about 6 months out. My plan will be a drawer system. This has worked great in my current land cruiser setup to keep the majority of our camping gear inside of. Even with the drawers I should still have plenty of standing room height.

I'm coming from an existing RTT setup. Just recently I had a friend ask me if they are worth it. It's hard to say for someone else but for me and my wife, there's no way in hell we'd go back to a ground tent. That said, we camp 50+ nights a year, often a good bit more than that.

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Funny, I was considering their RTT for my land cruiser. But seeing that it's not a solution for the family, I probably won't do it.

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Originally Posted by The Reverend Floater

Funny, I was considering their RTT for my land cruiser. But seeing that it's not a solution for the family, I probably won't do it.

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a growing "family" is the reason I'm going from the cruiser + RTT to a full size truck + GFC. 2 people and 3 dogs, camping gear and gear for whatever activities we are doing got to be too much for the cruiser. I also had a trip to northern ID last spring where it rained (or snowed) on me every day for a week straight. The GFC will solve 2 problems, more room and an area to hang out in and cook in when the weather is shitty. 90% of the time this is a non issue and I go camping to be outside but sometimes it's nice to have a little shelter.

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Originally Posted by dfinn

a growing "family" is the reason I'm going from the cruiser + RTT to a full size truck + GFC. 2 people and 3 dogs, camping gear and gear for whatever activities we are doing got to be too much for the cruiser. I also had a trip to northern ID last spring where it rained (or snowed) on me every day for a week straight. The GFC will solve 2 problems, more room and an area to hang out in and cook in when the weather is shitty. 90% of the time this is a non issue and I go camping to be outside but sometimes it's nice to have a little shelter.

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Just wait until you're 2 adults, TWO KIDS, and three dogs, buddy. Fuckin' circus.

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Originally Posted by The Reverend Floater

Just wait until you're 2 adults, TWO KIDS, and three dogs, buddy. Fuckin' circus.

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So the gfc will provide ample room for dogs and gear while the humans sleep on the ground.

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Originally Posted by The Reverend Floater

Just wait until you're 2 adults, TWO KIDS, and three dogs, buddy. Fuckin' circus.

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Time to break down and look at a travel trailer. The feelings of inadequacy will quickly fade when you realize on the Thursday before a trip that almost everything is already packed or on your first rainy camping weekend. The people that ridicule you either don’t have kids or never go camping because it’s too big a pain.

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Originally Posted by bagtagley

Time to break down and look at a travel trailer. The feelings of inadequacy will quickly fade when you realize on the Thursday before a trip that almost everything is already packed or on your first rainy camping weekend. The people that ridicule you either don’t have kids or never go camping because it’s too big a pain.

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We already have one. Hence why as much as I'd like to have a RTT for quick solo trips, hunting, etc. I just can't justify it. And yes, we went through the "we don't need a trailer" thing and then were shamed via several monsoons and junk shows. I'm sure we'll get back to tents and what not but having a trailer with a 1 year old makes shit much more doable on short notice.

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Originally Posted by bagtagley

Time to break down and look at a travel trailer. The feelings of inadequacy will quickly fade when you realize on the Thursday before a trip that almost everything is already packed or on your first rainy camping weekend. The people that ridicule you either don’t have kids or never go camping because it’s too big a pain.

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This one million percent!! I have zero regrets for owning a travel trailer.
I can set up my base camp and return to a soft bed, cooking inside, and being able to take a shower and poop indoors gets to be a luxury I wont do without going forward. Plus I can double tow my drift boat and or raft and still have a vehicle to use it without having to break down camp


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Originally Posted by The Reverend Floater

We already have one. Hence why as much as I'd like to have a RTT for quick solo trips, hunting, etc. I just can't justify it. And yes, we went through the "we don't need a trailer" thing and then were shamed via several monsoons and junk shows. I'm sure we'll get back to tents and what not but having a trailer with a 1 year old makes shit much more doable on short notice.

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Haha, nice! Doable is the key word. Tents still come out for backpacking trips, which are really fun when they're big enough to hike on their own, but still small enough to think it's fun. My daughter was mostly game because she got to poop in a hole.

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Originally Posted by bagtagley

Haha, nice! Doable is the key word. Tents still come out for backpacking trips, which are really fun when they're big enough to hike on their own, but still small enough to think it's fun. My daughter was mostly game because she got to poop in a hole.

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Our daughters should hangout. My oldest is 5 and still routinely "pops a squat" in our yard to pee. I was concerned but then I realized I pee in our yard more than my bathroom, so I get it.

On the subject of a brown water holding tank, I still remember the event when my dad bought a kiddy pool tub thing, emptied the brown water tank into the tub, and bucketed loads to flush down the toilet in our house. I was like 6 or 7 years old. The RV was parked on our poster card suburban street. He had to make some sort of critical repairs related to winter time ski hill use. I’m sure there were some complaints filed to the HOA.

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Originally Posted by The Reverend Floater

We already have one. Hence why as much as I'd like to have a RTT for quick solo trips, hunting, etc. I just can't justify it. And yes, we went through the "we don't need a trailer" thing and then were shamed via several monsoons and junk shows. I'm sure we'll get back to tents and what not but having a trailer with a 1 year old makes shit much more doable on short notice.

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If you’re up for telling it, I think most would appreciate your story of an RTT, a trailer, and no rear trailer jacks. I still chuckle when I think of the tale.

a little bit of shaking involved? i think i recall this being told here before...

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Originally Posted by Norseman

a little bit of shaking involved? i think i recall this being told here before...

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Memory like a steel trap. I've heard it in person, couldn't remember if it hit the wire here. Still worth a re-tell.

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Originally Posted by Conundrum

Memory like a steel trap. I've heard it in person, couldn't remember if it hit the wire here. Still worth a re-tell.

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It has, and agreed.

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Originally Posted by Dromond

If you enter it from the inside, don’t you sort of need some empty space in the truck bed to stand/climb up? If it’s fully loaded with gear, doesn’t that mean you still end up having to move stuff around to get in/out?

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You can access the tent from the opening in the back, or the sides on the newer design. That's how I usually get in/out in the middle of the night because pulling the tailgate up from the inside is kind of a pain when half asleep.

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Originally Posted by teleee

This one million percent!! I have zero regrets for owning a travel trailer.
I can set up my base camp and return to a soft bed, cooking inside, and being able to take a shower and poop indoors gets to be a luxury I wont do without going forward. Plus I can double tow my drift boat and or raft and still have a vehicle to use it without having to break down camp


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What is a double tow? Boat trailer connected to hitch on back of trailer? I've never seen such an innovation. Pics please.

Yep. Just be DAMN sure you don't need to back up.