Killed while filming. How do we backtrack from where we are?

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Originally Posted by klar

An interesting variation of this discussion is the situation in Italy: triggering avalanches is per se "illegal" and there can be actual legal consequences (pretty high fines, technically jail time), whether or not something happened is not relevant. At the very least, this makes people think twice about calling things in to the local avalanche centers.

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Whoa. I'm sure the history of that is interesting, do you know where I can read more about it?

Sad to hear about another death while skiing. And her picture looks surprisingly familiar, I think I may have shared a gondola with her in Engleberg last winter.

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Originally Posted by Shredhead

Commercial operations absolutely have an obligation to report.
I had friends heli skiing in the same area last year. They were green lit to ski a run, seconds before the whole ridge slid to the ground.

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This is interesting. Maybe bad guides at that operation. Especially if this was the same operation that Rapaport was flying with.

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Originally Posted by abraham

Whoa. I'm sure the history of that is interesting, do you know where I can read more about it?

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There doesn't seem to be much in english in general and I couldn't find anything on the history at all. Here is a short account of an older case that was and still is the most publicized example of how it can work. . The law is from 1986 and says that causing "floods, mudslides, and avalanches" is a crime. It was obviously made before ski touring was as big of a thing as it is now and is frequently criticized for being very outdated in this regard.

I find it hard to understand what exactly the legal situation is because they use vague and very abstract terms. Calling in harmless slides you caused is probably not as much of an issue as people think but it's all so weird that no one understands the situation so it seems better not to call. The Alpine Club and Mountainguide Associations have strongly criticized this. There is a distinction between "anthroposized" areas (they made up this word specifically for the law imo) and areas "far away from people and infrastructure", but that is not well defined. There is also a distinction between setting off a slide on purpose (5-12 years in jail, maybe don't cut that cornice...) and doing it by accident (1-5 years in jail for negligence). How/what/when any of this is enforced varies strongly between regions, which doesn't make things any more clear.

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Originally Posted by smitchell333

This is interesting. Maybe bad guides at that operation. Especially if this was the same operation that Rapaport was flying with.

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The slide that buried her was in Santa Teresa which is lower than the ski resorts (El Colorado & Valle Nevado). They normally do not heli ski there. This is lift accessed terrain and you need a car to pick you up at the road to bring you back to the resort.

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Originally Posted by GotamaRider

The slide that buried her was in Santa Teresa which is lower than the ski resorts (El Colorado & Valle Nevado). They normally do not heli ski there. This is lift accessed terrain and you need a car to pick you up at the road to bring you back to the resort.

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Interesting - they were helicopter skiing the terrain below El Colorado? I thought that that area was closed. And why would she be using a Heli there when its lift accessible?

Your so right.