Insomnia

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Originally Posted by altachic

I'm interested in this...I'm having some pretty major inner ear issues (no vertigo at this point) but it's very disruptive.
Now that I read this, one ENT i saw recommended Flonase even though I don't have any obvious allergy symptoms. I get some ringing after a bout of inflammation or fluid build up every couple days...i only have bad ringing when that fluid/inflammation goes away and it only lasts maybe a night with the ringing.
Wondering if the Reactine and flonase will help with my stuff. Must try.

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Both times it started after a sinus infection and didn't go away with antibiotics. Mine came with pretty severe low tone hearing loss in my left ear and any bass tones in my right ear felt like they were bouncing around inside my head. When I spoke it felt like I was underwater. ENT said there were no structural concerns and ordered a follow up hearing test a few months later. If I used my left ear on the phone it sounded like high pitched squeaking, it was brutal. I thought I was going def.

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Originally Posted by Dantheman

The two urologists I've seen didn't bring that up as a possibility. Got a name for the condition? My bloodwork all looks great. I'd need a damn compelling reason to get a kidney biopsy right now. We've had some other medical issues in our house lately that are burning through funds. I try to avoid checking my HSA balance lately (#Merica!).

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The one I have is called IGA Nephropathy. I didn't get it caught and officially diagnosed until my doc noticed my BP creeping up, I got put on blood pressure meds, and got sent to a nephrologist. I had a urologist who whiffed on it, and my BP stayed below eyebrow-raising levels for a long time because I spent so much time active. I guess I'm not too far along, so I'm fine right now other than needing to piss more than I'd prefer and being mindful of hydrating. Long term prognosis is a mixed bag, but it's better that they caught it early. My blood work looks fine, but the protein in my piss test will raise a red flag for a doc who is looking for kidney disease. That's the test that got me sent in for a biopsy.

I feel your pain on the HSA. Hope your household has some good health coming to it.

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Thanks. Definitely no BP issues to speak of and no signs of protein in urine, both of which were tested quite recently for unrelated reasons.

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Originally Posted by liv2ski

Damn, if serious, I would have killed someone by now, as I need 8 hours to feel normal. Less and my already shitty concentration goes in the tank.

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yeah it sucks. i'm at 50% of 50%

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Originally Posted by Dantheman

Thanks. Definitely no BP issues to speak of and no signs of protein in urine, both of which were tested quite recently for unrelated reasons.

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Can you get sick drinking piss?

decades of brutal tinnitus, too, if we're bitching

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Originally Posted by Dantheman

Hah. I'd definitely rather get up to pee than sit in a wet diaper most of the night. I've seriously considered buying a length of ~1" vinyl tubing, running one end through the wall to the outside and attaching the other end to the bed. Then just roll over and relieve myself without ever getting out of bed. It would probably get really gross though.



The two urologists I've seen didn't bring that up as a possibility. Got a name for the condition? My bloodwork all looks great. I'd need a damn compelling reason to get a kidney biopsy right now. We've had some other medical issues in our house lately that are burning through funds. I try to avoid checking my HSA balance lately (#Merica!).

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You fit in a 1" tube? +++Vibes+++

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Originally Posted by Dantheman

I have fairly severe nocturia for someone my age. Waking up 3x/night to piss is pretty standard. Seen four doctors and tried half a dozen drugs or so to no avail. I can usually fall back asleep, but it's still pretty disruptive. At this point it seems pretty likely it's going to be like this for the rest of my life.

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Same but I haven’t seen a doctor. I’m generally pretty good at going back to sleep but the piss around 5-6 am is usually my wake up alarm which sucks.

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Originally Posted by concretejungle

Same but I haven’t seen a doctor. I’m generally pretty good at going back to sleep but the piss around 5-6 am is usually my wake up alarm which sucks.

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That sounds perfect. I would give a lot to be able to sleep until 6:00am. That's full-on sleeping in for me.

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Originally Posted by glademaster

That sounds perfect. I would give a lot to be able to sleep until 6:00am. That's full-on sleeping in for me.

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And I’d love to go to bed at 9:30 if we’re having a pity party contest.

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Originally Posted by Dantheman

Hah. I'd definitely rather get up to pee than sit in a wet diaper most of the night. I've seriously considered buying a length of ~1" vinyl tubing, running one end through the wall to the outside and attaching the other end to the bed. Then just roll over and relieve myself without ever getting out of bed. It would probably get really gross though.

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Get a condom catheter--commonly used in nursing homes and hospitals instead of a catheter that goes into the bladder. Or just get a urinal. I was using one briefly after I broke my back--it is important to position it so that the piss doesn't run back out and to make sure you're finished before you use it. Consider a waterproof sheet to protect your mattress.

I just realized that I posted early in this thread (2015) about my insomnia. Update - it basically went completely away once I started meditating every day for 15 minutes. I use the Headspace app - they have a sleep pack, but any of them seem to work. I think I've trained myself to calm my nervous system so it's not revving in the red zone constantly, and as a result I'm able to get to sleep.

No idea if this will work for everyone, but you might try it. The key is to really commit to the meditation every day; doesn't have to be for long, but you have to really try to get into it and work on calming your mind. That was the key for me. Like I said, I really like the Headspace app, but there are many others out there - find one you like.

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Originally Posted by glademaster

That sounds perfect. I would give a lot to be able to sleep until 6:00am. That's full-on sleeping in for me.

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me too....ugh. lucky to log 5 hours uninterrupted.

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Originally Posted by old goat

Get a condom catheter--commonly used in nursing homes and hospitals instead of a catheter that goes into the bladder. Or just get a urinal. I was using one briefly after I broke my back--it is important to position it so that the piss doesn't run back out and to make sure you're finished before you use it. Consider a waterproof sheet to protect your mattress.

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Or just get a large Gatorade bottle with a wide cap, aka pee jar. Standard equipment for camping for me. I hadn’t considered using it inside the house, but can’t see why it wouldn’t work there too.

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Originally Posted by riser3

You fit in a 1" tube? +++Vibes+++

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You don't want to put the whole thing in there, that's just unsanitary.

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Originally Posted by billyk

Or just get a large Gatorade bottle with a wide cap, aka pee jar. Standard equipment for camping for me. I hadn’t considered using it inside the house, but can’t see why it wouldn’t work there too.

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Got to get up to use the bottle and you have to empty it every morning. Might as well just take 5 steps to the toilet at that point. I do break normal man rules and do the night drains sitting down with my eyes closed. For camping though, pee bottle all the way.

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Originally Posted by Pegleg

I think I've trained myself to calm my nervous system so it's not revving in the red zone constantly, and as a result I'm able to get to sleep.

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Plausible hypothesis I've read: Breathing is one of the few autonomic processes you can exert conscious control over. Once developed that control has a global effect on many other parts of your mind and body.

Last 2 nights had a third of one of my THC muffins and sleep pretty damn good. High THC content seems to knock me out and reduce my need to pee, so I can make it to 5am. :confused:

Guy's wife left him after finding what he had stashed in the attic. It's worse than an affair.

"My wife [33/f] found my [37/m] 'pee bottles' and 'cum shirts' in the attic and I swear to god there really is a good explanation but she refuses to speak a single word with me. This is the quintessential case of it’s not what it looks like."

Wow, that was a thread killing post KQ. Who else is up because the new kitten attacked their feet at 1am? Its ok though, the dogs wanted to go out anyways, but here I am.

I sleep great, for about five hours.
Just waiting for the sun to come up, on the longest day, so I can go for a ride.

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Originally Posted by Shredhead

I sleep great, for about five hours.
Just waiting for the sun to come up, on the longest day, so I can go for a ride.

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If you’re an old man that’s about all you can expect on a typical night.

So I did some research on this whole peeing at night thing a while back. What I learned is that if you are even somewhat dehydrated, your body extracts water from the food in your colon for its use and this can continue all night, which can cause you to have pee frequently at night.

If you frontload your water intake and get fully hydrated by about dinner time, the body just passes the poop on through overnight without extracting all the water, which means less night peeing. And you can tell by looking at your poop. If it appears squishy and curved, you're adequately hydrated. But if seems firm, with cracks in it, your body has extracted more of the water from it because it needed it.

Yeah a little gross but it has seemed pretty effective,

Hydrate, melatonin and 5-htp.

Night peeing can also be a sign of enlarged prostate.

Interesting. I definitely frontload my water intake and my shit is usually softer than deepsouthmafia, but I still void >1 liter overnight. With rare exceptions, I haven't gotten more than 3 hours of uninterrupted sleep in over a decade.

Yeah no doubt there's plenty of possibilities but I thought I'd just, um, fling that one in the mix.

Heh. I'm making a new effort to try and solve the issue. Saw an internist last week who is working on referring me to a nephrologist. But, I'm pretty much resigned to the most likely scenario which is that my kidneys are insensitive to ADH and there's fuck all that can be done.

well, dtm, you've always seemed like a man with insensitive kidneys.

A lot of people suffer from apnea, which can wake you up and then feel like you have to pee

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Originally Posted by iceman

So I did some research on this whole peeing at night thing a while back. What I learned is that if you are even somewhat dehydrated, your body extracts water from the food in your colon for its use and this can continue all night, which can cause you to have pee frequently at night.

If you frontload your water intake and get fully hydrated by about dinner time, the body just passes the poop on through overnight without extracting all the water, which means less night peeing. And you can tell by looking at your poop. If it appears squishy and curved, you're adequately hydrated. But if seems firm, with cracks in it, your body has extracted more of the water from it because it needed it.

Yeah a little gross but it has seemed pretty effective,

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so you have to get up in the middle of the night to poop instead of pee?

I guess it depends on what you had for dinner.

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Originally Posted by iceman

I guess it depends on what you had for dinner.

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There it is!

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Originally Posted by iceman

I guess it depends on what you had for dinner.

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Iceman’s last post

Bow ye heads for a moment of silence

49,553 posts
It was a good run.

He will be missed.

Services will be at the Irish pub. Pick the one nearest to you and enjoy a proper Irish wake.

Couldn’t have held off for two more days to make it to 50k?

For those unable to catch the necessary Z's, this is a fantastic (And ssomewhat apropos) double-feature:

Had a really nice dinner, but to much wine and here I am. I even took a dump in Iceman's memory.

I tried the water thing and have to admit I slept better and longer. Before I had to pee.

40mg indica gummy.

Problem solved.


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Yup, your right Harry. I just wake up all fuzzy and it takes a few hours to snap outta it.

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Originally Posted by liv2ski

Yup, your right Harry. I just wake up all fuzzy and it takes a few hours to snap outta it.

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1:1 vape works for me. Just takes 2-3 puffs. I don't feel any different, I just go to sleep. I don't wake up funny, I'd say it's successful at least 80% of the time. I only need it a few times a month on average.

40mg is way too much, I mean if your burning an 1/8th a day, yeah maybe. Since I stopped burning, 10mg’s before bed and reading for a half hour is all I need to sleep through the night.

Like OG, I find the 1:1 THC to CBD stuff to be most useful as a sleep aid. I take 1:1 RSO 3-4 nights/week and it definitely improves the quality and duration of my sleep.