Unbelieveable! Still poor people in Aspen even after how well the stock market performed last year? The fools probably stayed in their money market funds. Well, they deserve what they get.
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speaking lawsuits and snowboarders take a look at this
This attitude used to piss me off, until I realized it's true. There's plenty of snowboarders that can ride as good as the best skiers. There's also plenty of skiers that suck as bad as the worst boarders. The difference is that snowboarding is easier on really tight steep stuff so the shitty boarders can go up there, slide slip it and say they rode it whereas you wont find many skiers that should be on blue runs skiing 40 degree chutes. It's not that snowboards suck, it's that sucky snowboarders can get themselves into good terrain without killing themselves.
I went to the dark side in 90 when I was 12 years old. Have since gone even darker and exclusively tele. I still have my board and will bust it out again one of these days. It won't be the first day Alta allows snowboarders though, those wack jobs will be killing anyone on a board. Many of the traverses aren't too bad but stop just once and you'll have a ski pole up your rectum so far it'll tickle your tonsils. Probably take a few years, maybe generations, for things to calm down. In fact that's probably the real reason they will never allow boards.
Its not really about the traversing... they just plain don't like snowboarders and don't want the associated shit show hanging around. Can you blame them!?
What % of people snow board? I think it was once around 35%. Now it seems to have dropped significantly. Any of you industry insiders have he numbers handy?
It's a few years old, but at least gives a frame of reference.
http://www.skiareacitizens.com/Demog...rends_2008.pdf
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if someone has a UofU id and can access the matierial, it looks like the U has some good data. http://campusguides.lib.utah.edu/con...127&sid=649229
If ski resorts didn't regulate the types of traffic at their resort the places would look like a red bull flutag event with people on the most questionable shit imaginable. If a resort has the right to deny people riding couches down the mountain drinking beers with swords for ski poles then of course they also have the right to say no snowboards.
this seems like a problem solver:fm:
http://www.lib-tech.com/files/2009/08/nas.jpg
more loser hate!!!!
http://www.adventure-journal.com/201...comment-635865
this is bang onQuote:
Here’s a thought. Perhaps Alta’s dogmatic refusal to allow snowboards should be seen less as a repudiation of snowboarding and more as a celebration of skiing. Perhaps it should be seen as an attempt to recognize how special skiing is, how rare, and in its own way, how fragile, without any disregard for any other sport.
And maybe, instead of these riders taking offense at Alta’s policy, they could instead try to find some respect for a group of people who love skiing so much they’ve devoted their lives to it, to nurturing and preserving it, while change swirls everywhere else, not because they don’t like other sports but because they love skiing itself so much. And maybe, instead of hiring lawyers and suing, the plaintiffs should learn to ski, should learn to meet Alta on its own terms instead of trying to bend it to theirs. Maybe then they’d understand. Maybe.
Copy and paste of one of the comments:
"Here’s a thought. Perhaps [the Klan's] dogmatic refusal to allow [blacks] should be seen less as a repudiation of [blacks] and more as a celebration of [whites]. Perhaps it should be seen as an attempt to recognize how special [white people are], how rare, and in its own way, how fragile, without any disregard for any other [race]."
Thought it was pretty good... although comparing this to race equality is a stretch...
One thing that gets me is they will bust your balls even on a split board. So you can ride the mtn if you hike it but you can't get on the lift with a odd looking pair of skis?
"The lawsuit notes that Alden, Hicken and Varga purchased tickets at Alta and attempted to board the Collins lift with their snowboards. They were escorted away from the lift by ski patrol. Alden boarded a lift with a split board, but was grabbed by ski patrol at the top of the lift."
Wonder if they usually allow spit boards?
"while change swirls everywhere else"
change = elimination of discriminatory practices?
Which is more defensible?
Refusing to let snowboarders ride, which is a legal activity, on land they own.
or
Getting pissed that the best mountain in the state bans you because the wood plank on your feet isn't cut in two?
Just get over it...
I was skiing at Alta last Sunday. I looked everywhere for Nazis. Didn't see a single one. I actually DID see a black person though, but he was skiing, not snowboarding. I think maybe some of the theories in this thread may be inaccurate. Just sayin'.
i'll prob start skiin in my german infantry cap,once my friggin calf and knee feel proper again lol(commin along nice and slow)
*ski area
Thanks for the link, interesting how most people here misrepresent the argument. Rational people believe snowboarding to be similar to skiing, moreso than sledding, wanking, snowmobiling or extreme couch surfing.
Alta excludes 40% of the wider skiing population in order to provide an experience that's 10% better for the remaining 60% of the population. For skiers, it's great. For the overall population, it constitutes an irrational reduction in fun factor on public land. Labowski would not abide. It's basically jihad.
I didn't use to have any opinion on this, but now I do. My opinion is that [aggrieved] snowboarders are boring.
Does park city have the right to ban chain restaurants from downtown. Do some towns have the right to ban certain colors of paint. All paints come from the same base and chains are no different from an independent shop.
Does Alta allow monoskis?
"huffin keyboard cleaner and smokin bath salts"
i must have missed that class!!!!!
can i sue al gore cause i suck at the internet?
It is over; Alta's "business decision" is finished. Bjorn will win!!
If you want the exclusivity, join Deer Valley.
Alright JONG. Have fun with that.
And I can't wait for the judge to ask, "Why don't you just change your equipment so you can ride there?"
Again, there is no discrimination against people, they only regulate what type of equipment you can use there. I'm not sure that I'd call that "discrimination" in the true sense of the word. Unlike your race, color, gender or sexual preference, that IS something you can change....
They should of got married to each other first then filed the suit