Ah. As I Suspected. But wondered if there was some allen wrenching involved given the bag of parts and tools they came with.Quote:
Originally Posted by LeeLau
Thanks mate.
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Ah. As I Suspected. But wondered if there was some allen wrenching involved given the bag of parts and tools they came with.Quote:
Originally Posted by LeeLau
Thanks mate.
Good to know, thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by snowgage
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-P...222_101750.jpgI work at a shop that sells them and I got a pair for my self as well. They tour very favourably with the orig. Maestrale but ski much better. They are distinctly stiffer and drive big skis, like the G3 Empire 127, with authority.
At our shop I have seen 2 sets of broken tongues and a few (3-5) broken walk mechanisms.
When mine came in I skied them once or twice and then ground out every rivet on the boot and every cuff screw with a flange, and put all new screws and hardware on (with locktite). I also put an expert Booster strap and added a custom paint job.
I like have screws for all my buckles because I do believe it is stronger, and if I break a top buckle, I want to be able to take one of the useless tow buckles off and use it to get down.
Rivets can fail just as bolts can loosen and come out. I like bolts because I can maintain and replace them in the field.
Many of the bolts on the boot are aluminium and I find that their hex keys don't always fit. I like to replace the bolts with steel and I only use a proper set of hex keys or the hex bits for my Leatherman to work on them.
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-s...222_101922.jpghttps://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.n...76181099_n.jpg
^ AT boot gear modifications have reached a new low..... now it's custom graphics too.
With your Mercurys changing color( and the color change accelerating almost daily) perhaps you should consider this. It's getting embarrassing man and you need to do something about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by PNWbrit
My Vulcans are still perfect and not changing color.
I think that if I am going to have a pair o boots custom fit, and modified for increased performance, a custom paint job is a nice way to finish it off. It's not like Scarpa hit it out of the park with their graphics on the things.
RARSki, do you do vagazzling?
Leave the guy alone...he's got an addiction to baby dill pickles and likes to paint his boots....tolerance man, tolerance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rimwalker
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-s...222_101922.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by Scotsman50
Pickle lube in blue bottle behind dill jar?
that reminds me of back in the day when my 4yr old did a custom job on my vetta corsa bike helmet with a purple crayon ... the art was so crude it was cool
Here are some thoughts after riding the RS mostly slackcountry this season.
I initially tried the stock liner but wasn't getting the fit I wanted so I put in a surefoot liner (X3).
Tours nice and is stiff enough for what I'm using it for. The bigger buckles are great for quickly clamping down for the descent. If you're using the last teeth on the top buckle, move it to one of the next holes, it makes a difference on the leverage point and feel of the boot. I just figured this out this season on my alpine boots also.
I use them to drive Squad 7's with Dynafit Radical FT. The biggest issue I had was the ramp angle of the binding. It didn't feel right to me so I finally got around to adding the B&D toe shims and what a difference. Now the whole setup feels much better, I don't feel like I'm flexing the tongue towards the ground anymore, but driving the ski. Steeps also feel better without all that forward lean/ramp angle. Long cat tracks feel better as my quads are more relaxed. Skinning feels fine with flat terrain having a nicer stride and feel.
I've had them punched several times for my wide feet and so far shell holding up. I can't comment on durability since I don't have that many days on them.
Update.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jumi-Jakke
After waiting almost three weeks, got my old boots back fron Scarpa. According to Scarpa they have been repaired and ready for use.
Now after two days of skiing, I was going to tour on Les Marecottes backside, when heelpiece came off again ! On top of that, other heelpiece was loose and getting ready to pop off. This is dangerous stuff. I wonder what Scarpa thinks about their customers safety ?
Boots are back in local bootshop and they are calling Scarpa tomorrow. Ofcource I`m asking for refund.
Any ideas how can I make Scarpa accept their responsilibity about their own products and refund or atleast replace the shells ?
Dude! Sorry but you are way too nice. Channel the inner grizzly bear and demand some action. Call Scarpa directly / post on their facebook page / whatever it takes! Grow a pair!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jumi-Jakke
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Scarpa finally refunds me. Now waiting for the payment to my credit card. Might aike awhile I believe...
Meanwhile bought Chams last pair of Mercurys, out of stock everywhere and same goes for Vulcans...
Start Haus still shows a few sizes on the Mercury on their website.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jumi-Jakke
Hey, don't lean too far forward...Quote:
Originally Posted by LeeLau
Yesterday was my first day on my new pair of these boots. I felt like the lean angle wasn't far enough forward, and I tried to make sure I was clicked into the farther of the two positions, same as my Megarides. Snap! On both boots I leaned too far forward and the lower shell popped out from under the upper cuff. Now the plastic is seriously munged up and I think the lock is actually broken on one of them. I'm not sure what to do. I really didn't like the way they were skiing before this happened, although maybe I just needed to get used to them. Now I've got two messed up boots. What a downer.
^^^ warranty per Scarpa NA. Contact them
One Boot? Anybody using this as one boot or have any thoughts about using the RS as an only boot? I'm 140 lbs, Ski aggressive but no air. Thinking about either this or the Freedom Freeride. Don't need interchangeable soles as I use the Fritschi Freeride at resorts and shorter tours. Tech bindings for backcountry. 70% resorts and 30% backcountry. Most backcountry days are Colorado 14ers in the springtime. Shorter pass tours and sidecountry in winter. Currently skiing in Skookum and looking for something with a better fit for low volume feet and a sweeter flex.
Was the only boot I wore all winter. Skied it with both W99's and Manhattans. No issues.Quote:
Originally Posted by shaman161
i think i could use them as my only boots. i still ski fulltilts/raichles if im using lifts, because i ski better with a progressive flexing boot (maestrale rs are just stiff), but i could live with just the rs, especially if i was skiing mainly good snow.
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They will work fine as an only boot, especially since you are on Fritchies. The boots are not the rate limiting step.
Durability will likely be an issue. Keep tightening that hardware.
Exactly. Those bindings can't keep up with those boots.Quote:
Originally Posted by hutash
39 days last season and 33 of those were in my Maestrale RS boots.
Totally stoked on these! No issues except the hyperflexing of the walk mode but figured it out by being smoother in challenging spots on the up.
My favorite AT boot to date.
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The RS really does look like my next buy, despite previous irritation and bitterness at repeatedly breaking/loosing connecting hardware on my orange Mastrales in the last two seasons. And the way the tongue 'flattens' with time and the boot looses fit as a result.
It is light, skis well, is affordable, really easy to get in and out of, especially in a tent/snowcave and COMES WITH AN INTUITION LINER - saving me another $200.
Some Dynafits offer me a better fit, but they are spendy, and have fiddly little buckle clips and thin soles that I would absolutely trash in the 300+ touring days I need from a shell. When I look at the gnarled-up dog-chewed state of previous shells, soles and buckles... then I look at a top-end Dynafit boot, I just can't see them lasting the distance. Great boots that I lust after, but I'm a "poor" daily user, not a weekender with a paycheck. Gear's just gotta last longer. Boots shells gotta last 3 seasons, and if they don't, they have to be $600 not $900. The Radium shell was very durable, though I lost a few buckles. Reckon the Cochise Pro Light AT (what ever it is called) looks simple steamlined and durable as well. Pity about the fit on my foot.
Note: the Scarpa NA Facebook pages is currently offering a 50% off tune-up service. Send boots in, they come back all fixed up ready for winter. I don't live in NA and no way I would ever get that service where I do live. But it still "sells" the brand to me.
RS shells wont make it for 3 years, i think i can tell that after 1/2 year. im gonna be happy if they make 2. the orange ones just made 1.5 years for me...
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My Orange shells didn't really even last 1.5 seasons without almost complete hardware re-builds - some parts numerous times. (1 season = 100-120 days of use).
Never going to get 3 functional seasons out the RS. I totally agree.
But at least they cost closer to $660 rather than $900, and come with Intuition.
And i do not know of any other slim-fitting AT boots that are more durable anyway.
thats true of course. not even any at boots out there that are really durable, its ok if they are done after 2 seasons, i just dont like it when stuff falls of all the time...Quote:
Originally Posted by neck beard
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how do the scarpa spec'ed intuition liners hold up for folks cuz I was told they were made to spec for scarpa as opposed to being the same liner you would buy after market from intuition?Quote:
Originally Posted by neck beard
still better than no intuition
everytime I play with those fiddly/spindly looking little dynafit clips and buckles I wonder how they could possibly not break but mine didn't and the dynafit shell fit was better for me
Shar uses the Scarpa Intuition liner. 2 years now - 50 + days each season and they're still fine. They were the stock Maestrale Intuition liner. Main difference is the foam was thinner at base of the foot so you could stick a footbed in thereQuote:
Originally Posted by XXX-er
I had a middle buckle loop just strip out. Pulled the cable end right out of it's housing. Fortunately if you tear off all the plastic shit there is just a hole in the buckle arm. Double looped some stainless wire through there and you wonder why they had the plastic housing at all. It's the most field repairable buckle I have seen.Quote:
Originally Posted by XXX-er
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Originally Posted by JRainey
good to know,thanx!
Picked up a pair without being able to try them on first, and the nasty sharp edge on the underside of the tongue (the channel for the center strap) cuts into my instep something fierce. (I have a really high instep.) Haven't molded the liners yet, but they aren't very thick in that area and it's hard to say if molding will be enough. If that doesn't work, might have to add some material to the underside of the tongue on either side of the fin to take pressure off. Can't grind off the sharp edge since there's no material behind it.
Anyone else have this issue?
No problems with mine in that spot. Can this area be punched? If your issue is not enough volume then padding may not be enough. I had a punch put in my left shell at the navicular bone right where the two shells overlap. No issues with flex.
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I had a similar issue with other Scarpa boots years ago (spirits maybe?). I ended up getting different boots that fit me better.
snowgage: what's your experience with the ski/walk mechanism after the replacement?
Mine are starting to develop a slight play in ski mode, I disassembled the mechanism and found the same plastic gasket/bushing as you described (also stripped the screw heads). Will contact scarpa to get a replacement.
/Hegge
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Originally Posted by snowgage
"really easy to get in and out of"
You sure you have a Scarpa? Not my experience at all. No favorites here but between Dynafit (Ones and TLT) and RS...I always worry about loosing some blood (seiously) putting on and taking off the RS. Dynfits are a hassle but at least they are a given. Just takes patience. Not he man strength and some skill like the Scarpa. 190# and I found the Intuition liner on the RS packed out rather quickly imo last season. Really noticed it as the temps went up while spring skiing.
Dane, you are confusing me. The entire front of a Maestrale opens up like a barn door with its hinged tongue. It could not be easier to get on/off.
I removed the ski/walk mechanisms from my boots to see if my pair has the plastic or aluminum bushing, and stripped two of the screw heads even when being careful. Had to drill them off. IMHO, the stock screws are too difficult to remove for field repairs (ice in the mechanism, for example), so I replaced the soft, low-profile original screws with stainless M4 x 14mm socket heads. No stripping those, and couldn't weigh more than a few grams more. Haven't decided on Lock-tite or Vibra-Tite for them yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by hegge
To be sure there is no confusion for anyone looking to get into a RS, it is absolutely the easiest boot ever to get into and out of and same goes for the liner. Also, the best boot ever!
Haven't skied the freedom yet but so far think the RS absolutely tops it in pretty much every way: stiffer, easier in/out, walks better, climbs better, better ROM, rockered sole. Only one reason to get a boot like the freedom and that is if you want one boot in bounds and out or for travelling.
That's all.
+1.Quote:
Originally Posted by neck beard
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That's true, but that's why they installed the type of tongue they did. Used as it's meant to be, it is so easy.Quote:
Originally Posted by 1000-oaks
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