Don't take it personally. There will be changes in mgt. and operating structure at AM with new owners. Count on some middle management being gone. They want to test your loyalties. Play the game if you want the job. You just might end up with a promotion. Show them the value you bring to the business and what you can add to that value. Unfortunately the way business is now you have to add value just to stay where you're at.Quote:
Originally Posted by onehotchili
off topic of whitewolf but this is the first year that Squaw employees MUST pass a drug test before employment. if this rings true for Alpine now too, who the hell is gonna work there?
are you for serious???Quote:
Originally Posted by brannen
Wow really, that seems preposterous that Squaw employees must take drug tests. Is that common practice for other resorts around Cali, and what if you have a card.Quote:
Originally Posted by brannen
Also, Im guessing Troy would be much more willing to give up his land now that KSL is the owner and not the Cushings. Not sure if this story is fully true. I heard that they feuded over the land when the railroads finally decided to sell the land back in the day. Originally Squaw had dibs but Troy somehow managed to 100 year lease/buy the land before Squaw could get to it.
So the story goes that Squaw then tried to get Troy to trade the land for the old Cornice II chair (maybe wrong on this), but the deal fell through when Squaw tried to screw Troy over, hence the feud with the Cushings. So maybe hes lightening up a little and gonna sell it at some point. Also I think hes also tied up in litigation with Squaw concerning the rights to Whitewolf anyways so Im sure thats not helping his finances at all. I dont know if my above rantings are true or have been posted earlier so excuse my post.
God those empty lift towers below the South east face of KT look sooooo lonely up there. On the flip side there is major avy danger on that whole slope and if that goes then probably 20 houses on AM acccess road are toast.
just checked. from their online application
FUCK YOU SQUAW VALLEY!!!!Quote:
PLEASE READ CAREFULLY BEFORE SUBMITTING APPLICATION Pre Employment Drug Policy I understand that, as a condition of my employment, I will be required to submit to, and voluntarily agree to submit to, a drug screen and to any procedure to assess my qualifications for employment.
I dreamt it would all be interconnected by tunnels like that big mountain railroad or whatever at Disneyland which, I believe, was modeled after the rocks at Squaw. It's fate.
Card doesn't mean squat with regard to workplace requirements and at will employment. I wonder if they are testing for weed?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wickedbrew4u
Wow! If you screen ski area employees for weed, you'll eliminate a huge portion of applicants.
Private Equity will cut costs any and every way they can. I suspect they saved a considerable amount on liability insurance by implementing testing. As you said, good luck fielding a team.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sinecure
Oh no... these guys have to refrain from smoking pot for two weeks in order to get a job! When I worked at alpine, they had random drug tests, meaning if you fucked up, they would drug test you and get rid of you.... No different. People should not be stoned while working. Period. I don't care what you do after work, hey Ill partake, but don't be stoned while operating heavy machinery that could easily kill someone.
As I understand it, they called Squaw, got the responsible bean counter on the line, and asked him if Squaw wanted to buy it. He responded that they already lease it, so why would they want to buy it, and turned it down. Troy got wind from a buddy and the rest is (somewhat obscure) history.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wickedbrew4u
As for drug tests, Alpine's online application says "ALPINE MEADOWS MOUNTAIN RESORT IS AN EQUAL OPPORTUNITY EMPLOYER AND PROMOTES A DRUG FREE WORKPLACE."
A lot of resorts are enforcing randoms for groomers, for liability reasons. If a groomer has an accident on the job, then he/she automatically goes for a test.Quote:
Originally Posted by nickwm21
as long as they don't start drug testing passholders........
um, that's not really random now, is it?Quote:
Originally Posted by nickwm21
random would be where they just drug tested whenever, whomever, and however they wanted regardless; i.e. you show up for work and they pull you aside, hand you a cup and ask you politely to pee in it without any provocation whatsoever.
If you f@#k up on the clock and they drug test you, well that's hardly random at all...
[The Oxford English Dictionary defines 'random' as: "Having no definite aim or purpose; not sent or guided in a particular direction; made, done, occurring, etc., without method or conscious choice; haphazard."]
to the best of my limited range of knowledge on the matter, a great deal of ski resorts have a "don't ask/don't tell policy" which means that they do not drug test you up front, but if you are an employee and are involved in any kind of accident that causes either severe physical harm or property damage in excess of $500 they will test you for drugs and alcohol. i'm not sure, but i think this is pretty standard policy with any large business (time for The Dad to chime in!).
That's one way to cut down on the KT-22 line on storm days...
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Originally Posted by HiGrade1
soon to introduce the specially designated "sober" express pass lift line......?! oh shit.
Thanks for vocabulary lesson, Dooks. I think we got it now.Quote:
Originally Posted by dookey67
However, what is significant regarding resort employee drug tests is that if an employee decides to partake on his/her day off and gets injured enough to have to go to the hospital and make a claim on the company insurance for, say, a shoulder dislocation, the employee will be tested. If said employee turns up positive, there's a good chance the claim can be denied and termination inevitable. I have run across more than one very wounded employee who wouldn't go to the doctor because of this fear.
That would be the Thunder Mountain Railroad, and it's based on the hoodoo's in Bryce Canyon. There's even a trail in Red Canyon near Bryce called Thunder Mountain. It looks exactly the Disney ride and kicks major ass on a bike. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by splat
All that said, I'm looking forward to having our very own Basshole. :yourock:
Hmmmm. seems I heard one of the cable car operators say that.
He must have ridden Space Mountain. Hence, the drug testing.
One of the many ironies of the inverse relationship between the severity of the drug and its later perceptibility.Quote:
Originally Posted by splat
Hahahahahahaha!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by splat
Your sarcasm meter is broken. They used the word random, but the tests were not.Quote:
Originally Posted by dookey67
jeez, you can't just be satisfied that they are very injured, you have to run across them too!?! What a hard-ass boss!Quote:
Originally Posted by splat
Got an email today that implies I'll be re-hired at Alpine. The letter did confirm that we'll all have to pass a drug test and background check. The letter implied that we should probably start studying for the test now since we'll have to take it sometime in November.
Other than for people with a medical need, I have to say that I don't feel the pre-hire drug test is that big of a deal. They're giving people plenty of time to prepare for it and if you can't go a month without smoking, you've got bigger issues.
They only call it random for insurance purposes. In reality its a you fucked up on the clock, were going to try and get out of workmans comp kinda thing.
A pre hire drug test at a ski resort?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sinecure
If the terms were no beer or wine for a month I would tell them to fuck off.
On principle, I would never submit.
And for what rate of compensation does one make this sacrifice? Straight bullshit and you know it.
Colorado corporations buy Tahoe ski resorts
Marketplace, April 17, 2012
So they gonna bring back the ski trains of yesteryear, Jamie?
You'd think if they wanted to upgrade the transportation infrastructure to deliver more customers, rail from the Bay and transfers to Squaw and Northstar would be Job One. I like rail transportation.
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Originally Posted by Sinecure
I have no idea how any normal human being could bump chairs sober.
That would be truly awesome.Quote:
Originally Posted by splat
I'd love rail as much as the next guy, but I think they mean something more like widening 89 and finishing the endless I-80 projects. I doubt there is enough travel between Reno and Sacramento/the Bay to justify more passenger rail.
They don't need rail service from Reno. They need it from the Bay. After you've been here for a while, you'll realize that I-80 projects are perpetual. Widening 89 would be awesome. Then the Southern Pacific or whatever Buffet's train set is called could employ some of those flatcars they have in Yurp that you drive your car onto while you go sit in a passenger car for the trip, offloading in the old rail yard in Truckee. Boon for traffic, boon for Truckee, boon for all North Tahoe resorts in the winter.
Ski trains are typically seasonal and dedicated.
I'm eagerly awaiting you and the rest of the bay area crew bitching that the train leaves at 5 and there's a 100yd walk to the nearest cabQuote:
Originally Posted by The Dad
I love the idea of bringing the ski train back.Quote:
Originally Posted by splat
Combine that with the Tahoe Subway in the Sky and it would be awesome.
Hmm, Vail resorts arrives and within a few years, people are talking about a train from the nearest population centers. Sounds vaguely familiar to somewhere else I know.
Springfield?Quote:
Originally Posted by shredgnar
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEZjzsnPhnw
Colorado, not Oregon.
Ski trains to Tahoe were done from the 40's until not that long ago.
Yeah, and Winter Park had a ski train till not that long ago. I was just pointing out the parallels between the two. Either way, I think it's a great idea, especially keeping people who are not used to driving in snow from clogging up the highway during storms.
A train would be great only if there was adequate public transportation once you got up to truckee.
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