The Official Argue About Where Upstate NY Is Thread

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Originally Posted by Peruvian

Magic Hat Brewing is moving from Burlington, VT to Rochester, NY.

While it adds nothing to the geography lesson, it is sort of interesting.

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Sad to lose a few jobs and the extra money they put into the economy, hate their "beer". It's nasty.

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Originally Posted by Timberridge

I heard if you can ski The Wall you can ski anything.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RZ4QTl1YxM

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The angle of that vid doesn’t really do it justice. TJ and Dex might have been able to show up and shred Ajax straight out of Mt Brighton, but THE WALL is a whole other animal.

Besides, the Wall is never open and my worldview was pretty much lapping bumps on Yodler, Edelweiss and Champagne from first to last chair.

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Originally Posted by riser3

Sad to lose a few jobs and the extra money they put into the economy, hate their "beer". It's nasty.

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I’ve heard it affectionately known as Ass Hat Brewing for the same reason.

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Originally Posted by Timberridge

I heard if you can ski The Wall you can ski anything.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RZ4QTl1YxM

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Deep persistent slab issues too!
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-UH12qBlOw...+avalanche.jpg

Kissing Bridge & Bristol were more my style.

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Originally Posted by BmillsSkier

I’ve heard it affectionately known as Ass Hat Brewing for the same reason.

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I was at the epicenter of the Magic Hat thing. In Burlington in the 90s it swept over everywhere. I dutifully tried each flavor. Once. You couldn't get away from the stuff or from their cult members.

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Originally Posted by hatchgreenchile

Deep persistent slab issues too!
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-UH12qBlOw...+avalanche.jpg

Kissing Bridge & Bristol were more my style.

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She’s an unstable one, that’s for sure.

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Originally Posted by BmillsSkier

She’s an unstable one, that’s for sure.

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I hear they lube the dirt for effect.

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Originally Posted by huckbucket

I hear they lube the dirt for effect.

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Honestly, I think it's me. Many of the small ski areas I've called home over the years have experienced slab and/or wet slides.

This one slid twice

https://thumbs.newschoolers.com/inde...&size=400x1000

Is that Wisp? Looks puckering.

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Originally Posted by hatchgreenchile

Deep persistent slab issues too!
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-UH12qBlOw...+avalanche.jpg

Kissing Bridge & Bristol were more my style.

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Kissing Bridge during high school and Swain in college

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Originally Posted by ml242

Is that Wisp? Looks puckering.

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Perfect North Slopes.

Hey, they produced a 2x Olympic medalist though! (Nick Goepper)

Magic Hat sponsored our ultimate team back around 2000. Or at least they gave us two colors of t shirts, and our team name became Fat Angel (they gave us fat angel ale shirts).

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Originally Posted by huckbucket

Listen up assholes. Stay out of western NYS. That means anywhere past the Orange Dome. We like it quiet over here.

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I'll be there next week, wanna meet for a beer after work?

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Originally Posted by ötzi

Yeah I think you at least gotta get out of Westchester before you're Upstate,

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The W'chester line is 1/4 mile south of me and I agree, it is the line on this side of the river.

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Originally Posted by Danno

this is the dividing line. Westchester is Westchester. Anything north of that is upstate. As someone who grew up in the city, I know that this is the correct answer.

Rockland County is really the only place up for debate, but most of us are mostly unaware that it even exists, so maybe we don't have to debate it.

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I'd call it the Palisades Pkwy because like ML says below - snakes and bears and shit.

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Originally Posted by ml242

Rockland has Harriman, and if you can step on a rattler or see a bear, you are upstate.

I can't argue about the Western border because like most people from NY, I have never been there.

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Dude it's actually pretty cool, good beer, good riding and when it snows good skiing. Just because you can't really make a living and it's grey 75% of the time doesn't make it bad.

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Originally Posted by ml242

summer summit at old forge

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I'm in.

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Originally Posted by BmillsSkier

Imagine what you could get in Salamanca.

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The best mt biking west of the Catskills.

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Originally Posted by hatchgreenchile

Or Alfred.

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The best recumbent specialist bike shop in the country. They have a really cool 'bent museum hanging from the ceiling over the retail floor.

Some of that nebulous wine space in the middle is covered with wonderful distilleries too. Oh and corn, lotsa corn and horse drawn wagons on the roads.

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Originally Posted by gravitylover

The best recumbent specialist bike shop in the country. They have a really cool 'bent museum hanging from the ceiling over the retail floor.
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You know how I know you’re gay?

Oh, and Zero Gravity is taking over the Clown brewery once they move west.

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Originally Posted by Danno

Magic Hat sponsored our ultimate team back around 2000. Or at least they gave us two colors of t shirts, and our team name became Fat Angel (they gave us fat angel ale shirts).

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That's the cool part about Magic Hat. They did/do a lot of cool stuff. It's too bad their beer is awful. Obviously enough people like it for them to have money to throw around. I don't hate Magic Hat, the company. I just hate their product.

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Originally Posted by Timberridge

You could tell you were getting closer to Rochester when the empty beer cans on the side of the road changed from Budweiser to Genesee.

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The maps in this thread are pretty good, and the above is also true.

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Originally Posted by Peruvian

You know how I know you’re gay?

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LOL thanks man 👍

Sounds like we have WNY nearly separated from Upstate (unless the perspective is of that of someone in the City). Still no clue where that nebulous area starts.

^^ I390you have to stay west of The Fingerlakes.

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Originally Posted by BmillsSkier

Sounds like we have WNY nearly separated from Upstate (unless the perspective is of that of someone in the City). Still no clue where that nebulous area starts.

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Thought we were clear.


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Originally Posted by hatchgreenchile

Deep persistent slab issues too!
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-UH12qBlOw...+avalanche.jpg

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They're lucky that thing didn't take out the lodge and half of Ellicottville.

I was thinking more like

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Originally Posted by huckbucket

Thought we were clear.


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This may be the most useful map yet.

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Originally Posted by Timberridge

They're lucky that thing didn't take out the lodge and half of Ellicottville.

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The Buffalo News had a snappy piece on the slide that opened with a John Cougar Mellencamp lyric reference.

https://buffalonews.com/2007/01/27/n...oliday-valley/

Thank God Ellicottville was saved from the slide. And the Coug.

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Originally Posted by Marshall Tucker

I was thinking more like

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I see you expanded on the above Give to Canada zone. Has anyone asked Canada their opinion on the matter or is that still difficult given the shutdown?

does magic hat even krausen?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDitNNIi_zs&app=desktop

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Originally Posted by m2711c

does magic hat even krausen?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDitNNIi_zs&app=desktop

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I'm beginning to think that Magic Hat is going to be out of its depth when faced with homegrown talent like Utica Club and Genesee.