Yeah, that's totally what I said, sure. I'll keep that in mind the next time someone says "Everyone at Rampage and Crankworx rides flats! No one with actual bike skills rides clipless."Quote:
Originally Posted by californiagrown
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Yeah, that's totally what I said, sure. I'll keep that in mind the next time someone says "Everyone at Rampage and Crankworx rides flats! No one with actual bike skills rides clipless."Quote:
Originally Posted by californiagrown
Oh lighten up. We both understand the dis/advantages of flat vs clipless. Its just that we value certain dis/advantages differently likely because we ride in different areas, on different trails, and find different things more fun than others.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dantheman
I'm just here to pay some respect to the amazing knees you flat pedalers must have. I ride clipless specifically to let my feet rotate on the pedal with as little resistance as possible. With light retention I have no issue getting out for either a dab or OTB, and I hate walking tech (or dabbing, really), so most of the appeal of flats is lost on me--luckily, given my knees. Enjoy em!
More time on the Adidas Trail Cross shoes this last weekend ... I have zero doubt that 5.10’s have better grip through high speed rubble, jumps, etc than the Adidas counterpart, but I think for all day adventure riding I’m really happy with the shoes - very breathable, easy to walk, and still enough grip to climb up punchy rocky rooty stuff. Clipless is faster, no doubt, flats are ever so slightly easier and more practical, and my wife can no longer complain that I am able to get through a section “just because I’m clipped in.”Quote:
Originally Posted by Dantheman
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Originally Posted by SchralphMacchio
I hate being clipped in like I hate frame bindings. When I hit a tough section and made a mistake I could not get out and felt trapped. For me I like flats and now if I can fix pedal strike issues I might actually become a real MTBer
I prefer them in almost every situation other than rough high speed stuff where I'll occasionally lose a pedal. It so infrequent though so I'll deal with it. I try not to walk the techy ups but it's happening more often than it used to for the same reasons as you.Quote:
Originally Posted by skaredshtles
Those high ones are almost definitely going to be my next shoes I just need to try a pair on before committing to them.Quote:
Originally Posted by SchralphMacchio
My knees and ankles are SO much happier since I went back to flats almost 10 years ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by jono
That's great to hear, actually the first review I've seen from someone I know puts them through their paces properly.Quote:
Originally Posted by SchralphMacchio
original Five Ten Freeriders: Comfortable. Soft. Laster 5+ yearsQuote:
Originally Posted by californiagrown
Freerider Contact: Uncomfortable for me. Stupid flat sole. Lasted a few months then replaced with a warranty pair that feel apart just as fast.
Freerider Pro: Better fit, function and durability, but I have chunks falling out of the sole where it sits on the pedal after 1 year of use. So, durability is still not good.
What gives? Flat pedal shoes are more expensive for me since they get torn up faster. Should I get them resoled or something? Clipless shoes at least last me for many years!
I like flats because I can grab my MTN bike and go get beer downtown in my sandals without slipping a pedal and bashing my shins when I hit my sick moves on my way down the hill. Rode clipped in for 20 years, the beer factor is the biggest disadvantage. Going fast through chunder is the biggest advantage but I don't give a #uck about that anymore, I'm focused more on slowing down a little and being clean and stylish in my riding.
Need some new flats, and would love some opinions based on first-hand experience. Been running the Pedaling Innovations Catalyst dinner plate pedals - my first mtb flat pedal. I love their size, but want to try something with a lower profile, and perhaps a touch shorter, as I would like to reduce pedal strike. I want versatility - big and stiff enough for all day rides, but good grip for jumping and tech, low profile, etc. All the things. Going on a 2019 Patrol.
Thinking 110x110ish for size. 100x100 is too small for my big and fucked feet.
Considering, in this order:
OneUp Composites (or Aluminum, but leaning towards the Comp) - big, cheap, grippy, thin. Convex.
Canfield Crampon Mountains - looks great, but convex shape has me curious. Also, $$$
Hope F20 - pimp.
DMR Vault - too thick?
Kona Wah Wah 2 - concave composite
Anyone have personal experience with any of these - particularly the OneUp? That one seems right on the mark.
Good luck finding anything with a platform that you'll find big enough.
I find anything with the small thin pins to be too hard on shoes and too prone to pin damage.
I find the non-square ones (RaceFace Atlas, Spank Spike, etc) don't feel as big as their stated dimensions. I really need square corners at the outside edge to feel like it's doing anything. One pointy part that sticks out farther does nothing for me.
Pedal strike is over rated. Deal with it and get used to whatever you're using.
Plastic pedals will slowly die as pin holes strip out and deform to where you get one less pin and then one less pin and so on.
For a lot of companies, you really need to consider whether bearings and pins are available.
Deity TMAC seems to be at the top of the heap from my perspective.
Crank Brothers Stamp Large is a good TMAC alternative. I find that putting their long pins on the perimeter and small pins in the middle give it a much more agreeable concave feel.
OneUps are great. I've got 2 pairs of alloy, 1 composite. The comp feels slightly bigger since it doesn't have a "bearing bump" inboard. I haven't had to replace any bearings yet in like 2 years or however long they've been out, compared to every 6 months with RF Atlas.
I have both Deity Black Cat and Spank Spikes. I prefer the Deity’s. They have enough grip but not too much. I find the Spanks tricky to reposition on the fly due to the long pins. The squarer profile of the Deity’s is more supportive also.
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Thanks for the comments and recs y'all! Hadn't look at the Deitys but those are nice. I wish I could "demo" the pedals before buying...oh well.
FYI, I contacted Canfield because I coundn't figure out how to order the Crampon Mountains and they replied "We are out of stock for a few more months on the MTN pedals." Months! Guess I'll be buying another option....
I've been riding the chromag scarabs for a long time. Nice and thin, big platform, great grip
The new Dagga from Chromag also looks wild.
Why do convex pedals exist?
To match the natural concave of a human foot.
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Because some people will literally believe any bullshit.Quote:
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Most sensible comment on the subject, everQuote:
Originally Posted by jm2e
I know they’re not on your list but I have a pair of the Chromag Contacts and they are badass, I really really dig em. For the money though those One Up’s look like a pretty sweet option IMO, no exp though.
Thanks for the advice y'all. Settled on DMR Vaults. Found some for 35% off at chain reaction cycles. Will report back.
Contacts look really good too...and I would still like to try some of that convex bullshit out...someday.
Get the red ones.
Well duh. Everybody knows that. I mean, meter-man's not a complete idiot is he?Quote:
Originally Posted by SB
To be fair, I pedal strike way less with Crampons than with my Stamps. That convex shape makes for nice thin leading edges. But Crampons make my feet cramp, so Stamps it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by jm2e