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Friend's Uncle used to bite his dogs if they bit him. Turnabout is fair play, agreed.Quote:
Originally Posted by iceman
Foggy, im putting them in as floating. With me upping my budget from 2.19 a sq ft to 4.59 a sq foot, i had to compromise somewhere. So they will just be gluing the joints. I cant afford to lay plywood throughout the whole house. Its getting retarded expensive if i go that route. Yes, they are going to acclimate them for a 2-3 days then come in and check the moisture. Baseboards are already here, im painting them myself. Actually, my neighbor is going to do it for me. He's been wanting a bigger compressor, so i went halves on him for it. I am going to paint the interior once all this is done. I went with carpets 4 less of all people. He covered everything you talked about and im pretty happy with the deal he gave me. They are ripping carpet out, taking off baseboards, installing the floors, hauling the old shit away and installing the new baseboards. 2.50 a sq foot. The wood he pretty much took a minimum cut. The cheapest i could find it was 4.41 online and that was one place. Everyone else was north of his quote. So im getting 1400 sq ft of wood installed for 12,250. I pretty much dont have to lift a finger. I'm not sure about yout guys, but if you want my money, i want to hear everything you are going to do and not what you cant do. I heard alot of, i cant do this and i cant do that with our other multiple quotes. I told dude, all i want to hear is your quote and you are doing everything. He delivered so he got the sale.Quote:
Originally Posted by Foggy_Goggles
I am more than cool with paying someone 3500 to do all the moving of furniture, rip my old shit out and haul away, then install the new shit including my base boards. And this isnt a small job. They are doing my main open concept living room, kitchen, dining room, den/office, 3 bedroms and a hallway. 1400 sq ft.
Sounds like a fair price. As you know, the time to be picky is before had. I assume that their is some type of pad that goes underneath for a floating installation? If you have any high/low spots in your subfloor, the floor will bounce. Have them be real anal about addressing the low spots with leveler, drywall shims, double pad etc. Also, make sure that the baseboards and transitions are down tight. These to things are IMO the key to floating floors.
Seriously, look into the self leveling moisture barrier. I have seen the results of not using it.
You will love the hand scraped. That is what we have, even in the kitchen. If you look at it at the right angle, you see the scratches. They are invisible otherwise. You will not need to worry about refinishing them. They already have built in character.
Yes, there is a pad and i went with a good one. Its not just standard one. They are going to pour the self leveling concrete if we arent level. He told me thats the one thing we may run into. I have a newer home, so i'm hoping we'll have minimal spots to fix. Thanks for the tip on the baseboards and transitions. I'll be sure to check that out as they install them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Foggy_Goggles
he mentioned he may have to pour some self leveling stuff in. I'm not sure if thats moisture barrier. he said he'd charge 75 an hour to do so if we needed or i can do it myself. He said it shouldnt be more than a couple hours. if there are cracks in the slab or if its not level would be the reason to do it. Pretty much, we won't know until we rip up the carpet. Is it the same stuff? If not, let me know, i can get a quote to have him do it. Or is it that easy you mix it up, pour it out and it just levels itself out and dries? Theres a reason im paying to have it done, i dont know shit about houses.Quote:
Originally Posted by warthog
No, we did the self leveling concrete first, and when it took too long to dry in some spots, they whipped out the moisture meter. It read 10 in some spots, which basically means soaking wet concrete all the way through. After jackhammering a huge hole in the slab, I found the source of the water. French drain was useless, and backfilling under the slab. I fixed it, but we opted for the moisture barrier just in case.
Watch for areas that are wet, if you live in an area that has that issue. Ask some neighbors if you don`t know. Make sure the guy you hire uses a moisture meter. If you have carpet now, you might have an issue, but it might be hidden. The water will just evaporate through the carpet.
The stuff I am talking about is yellow, and I believe they glued the floor right to it.
I have never laid a floating wood floor on concrete.
That said, there is a simple method to determine if your concrete has moisture issues: cut out a square piece of clear plastic, at least two feet square but bigger if you can. Tape the edges down with tape that sticks to concrete (e.g. Gorilla tape). Wait a few days. If there is any condensation at all under the plastic, you have a problem.
I doubt moisture is an issue here. its pretty dry. That and our houses are built on lack of a better term, mole hill's. So they slope up probably 5-6 feet from the street level. give or take a foot. My yard has full drainage front back and side that the water drains out to the street. Its 90+ from end of april to end of sept. I'm no engineer though, but it seems to me it there should be alot less moisture due to where i live and the drainage compared to most areas including the greater part of the bay area. I think the main concern is how level it is once we rip up the carpets. As stated, we are built on man made mole hills. I have a corner lot, so im king of the moles. My driveway slopes more than anyone elses besides the ones on the corner like me. with that said, im going to pick up paint tomorrow, it wont hurt to pick up some plastic as stated and rip out some carpet and do the test. I'll do it in my living room which is level with the back yard. That would be the best chance of moisture i would assume?Quote:
Originally Posted by RootSkier
^ You DO live in Pleasanton dont you!?!
after all that "Bay Area is better than Seattle" stuff, the evidence is mounting against you!
No, i live in BFE, oakley, ca. Pleasanton is for the fools who want to still pay a half million for a starter. I'm out chillin like a villian out on the delta. Evidence mounting against me? hehe. Warmer beaches, dryer snow, legal hookers, yosemite, tahoe, amusement parks, water parks, 75% less rain and im half the distance to vegas. Ya, evidence is mounting against me, lol. Hey if you're living the dream in seatown, more power to you. The ONLY thing i miss about the PNW is the steelhead. 10min and you are at a river fishing for steelhead. Other than that, i dont miss a thing. Sorry, you do have one major advantage now. Legalized marijuana. My wife wouldn't have much arguement for me to becoming a fulltime bowlsmoker again. I do miss those days...Roll a J, crack a beer and drift bait down the river waiting to yank a fucking fish out of the river. Oh the good old days.Quote:
Originally Posted by jfost
Sounds like it won't be a problem. I would test it anyway though. Tough way to find out there is a slow leak in the main, or the poop drain.Quote:
Originally Posted by cramer
My neighborhood used to be mangrove swamp. You dig down a foot, and you are in some pretty hard clay and shell mixture. The morons that lived here before me had a french drain around the pool that was about 4 inches deep with decorative rock. The base was clay. The water must have just pooled up and sat against the house. The water eventually found it's way through a crack, and it widened. Every time it rained hard, the water from the pool area would run right under the floor in the kitchen and entryway. Guess we know why the PO had tiled that area. I was pissed. They really should have disclosed the issue. I will when I sell the house.
grew up in SEA, now in RNO... a little different!Quote:
Originally Posted by cramer
I think that you need to be selective about where you test for moisture, just because the living room is the "low" spot, doesn't mean there isn't trouble somewhere else (around a drain, sewer line etc) Warthog nailed it on the moisture meter.
Good luck! I can't wait til junior miss #3 stops crawling so we can do hardwoods, this crappy carpet is looking worse every day...
ya ill have them test. I don't need to find out the hard way.Quote:
Originally Posted by warthog
It`s actually really easy to tell. Your new floor will be sticking up about 6 to 12 inches in the spot with the moisture.:biggrin:
lol ok, point taken. I'll make sure they test.Quote:
Originally Posted by warthog
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sneak preview of the kids room
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sneak preview of my kids room. they knocked out a couple rooms and a hallway. Sorry about the post above. attaching a photo no worky for me.
Nice, good work!Quote:
Originally Posted by cramer
here's the pad we put in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Foggy_Goggles
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Originally Posted by cramer
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That looks great, Cramer. Solid work!
As much as i'd like to take credit for it, i paid to have it done and lucked out on a contractor who has what i'd call a guy who will be starting his own company soon. Nacho already has 2 side gigs lined up with my neighbors and another with me. This guy is going to make some bucks in his day. He's young and takes pride in his work. He's been laying floors 8 years and told me his cousin taught him. i'm having him do my tile next in the entryway and fireplace.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Reverend Floater
What the hell is going on in the before pic?Quote:
Originally Posted by cramer
lol, new daytime bed for new puppy. new puppy tore up new bed. He managed to get zipper open and start tearing shit up. That pic was taken about 6am when i had zipped it back up. Taken just a week before they actually started work. We both work during the day, so i crate the critters. I just dont like crating them at that young of age. The little sucka took after my boy chuck and had started pulling the carpet for me, hehe. Man i love dogs. This little guy tears shit up good. \
Actually, this was his 2nd day of work. First day he stayed home alone, he fucked shit up. The 2nd day, we came home to this shit show. On top of that you cant see he had started tearing up carpet top left of pic. I forgot about puppies. Imagine if i had picked up a rot, lol. Cabinet back there would be gone.