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agree it's the one to get, but that price is twisted. $70k? Porsche prices have gone nuts in the past decade. Stupid money is being paid for the lightweights, yadda yadda. I can "get" the serious money for a 904 or a Carrera 6, but the 911RS, etc are just 911s to meQuote:
Originally Posted by stfu&gbtw
this thing was great, i had one in high school and girls would just come up to ride in my car.Quote:
Originally Posted by bite me
never heard of the guys with mustangs getting those same offers.
chicks dig the euro trash ......Quote:
Originally Posted by SkiCougar
Not if you can find one with the custom carrera paint. That'd be my all time favorite 911.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh Conway
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Edit: I saw a green/black one up in summit co a few years ago when PCA had their week long deal out here. It was obviously getting passed alot by the gt3's and what not, but holy shit did it sound redonkulous.
Edit #2: Hugh, would you ever buy a water cooled 911?
I have always wanted a 993 Cabriolet.
Agreed - the 993 is the best modern body shape.
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I personally really like the carrera 4s 993.
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This thread is gonna make me bust a nut in my pants in a minute.
^^^ Yeah it went from "budget" to 911's and I was hooked.
^^^^ double that... friggin LOVE 993's but not so much a budget collector anymore.....
Well this thread is starting to veer off course. I don't think those Porsches are really "affordable" to most of us non-dentists.
I really regret selling this car:
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I wouldn't mind doing another one but it's really hard to find them in good shape any more. Super easy to work on, cheap parts, lots of potential. Drop in an LSx and a T56 or Tremec TKO, do some relatively easy suspension work and you've got a fast and surprisingly good handling car that's roomy and would get decent gas mileage to boot.
I used to have a '76 Oldmobile Omega with the 260 V8, my first car actually. I really wish I still had that now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chainsaw_Willie
While certainly not a car to be enjoyed all the time, this thing is awesome.
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Id put Tony on a retainer though.
Budget minded car collecting = oxymoron? Maybe not if you re fixing them up and selling them.
If I were to get into it, I'd go Will's route and get cars with breaker ignition and a carb, e.g. 240Z, Chevy w/350V8, Mopar w/slant6, Ford F-150 w/300/6. Those cars are easy and fun to work on. Probably upgrade to aftermarket electronic ignition.
A bud of mine always has an old carbed Volvo. He often had two, one for sale. He made a few bucks fixing them and selling them, but figured that he never made more than $10/hour if he was honest about the time he put in. Don't know if he's still doing the buying and selling. Very easy to work on those cars. He had access to a shop where he could pull the engine, friend with a engine machine shop, tranny guy, etc.
Air-cooled and carbed is nice in theory but prices for old Porsches and VW vans have gone outta whack. Likewise, there was a time when buying a BMW 2002 and fixing it up was budget minded.
Consiering all of the cars the OP started the thread with can be found for less cost than a year of skiing, hell yeah you can be a budget car collector.Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Steve
Depends on how many cars you have in the collection and whether you're rotating them out via profitable sales.Quote:
Originally Posted by AdironRider
What exactly is your point? I take it you are not a car guy? Any gearhead will tell you its a money losing proposition, but thats not really the point unless youre dealing with Ferrari 250 GTO's and the like.Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Steve
before the big run up in Porsche prices i had a landlord who restored 912s and did all the wrenching most everything including some paint work. Never made much money, spent less than I did skiing.
meh, currently, GTO level shit's financial speculation. buy a car, never touch it, just stuff it in the freeport, (unless you take it out for classiche or to get the transmission restamped for "matching numbers" and flip it for something better. So much bullshit in the history of those things.Quote:
Originally Posted by AdironRider
That being a car collector is almost always inconsistent with being budget minded?Quote:
Originally Posted by AdironRider
Not necessarily. A neighbor of mine just loves cars. I love some cars, but this dude loves basically any car. He's got the weirdest assortment of vehicles you've ever seen. One night a few of us were getting together for beers and I asked him if he wanted to come hang out. He says no, he's headed out to tool around in his new ride. I ask him what he bought. A '99 Subaru Legacy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Steve
Easy there boy. I've always thought that fixing up old cars can be budget minded, if you stick to good deals, have a mechanical knack and don't get suckered into dropping too much coin on upgrades. I drove old cars that I fixed myself for years. I've pulled and rebuilt engines, always done my own brake jobs, replaced timing belts and even milled a head myself. (I have yet to turn a rotor on my lathe, but I'm pretty sure I could.) Doesn't wrenching on cars for all these years make me a "car guy?" Or do you have to own ten cars or have a $70K German car to be a "car guy" these days?
But fixing up old cars =/= having a car collection.
Somebody can collect whatever they want. If somebody is buying cars just to have them, not because they need them, they're collecting them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Steve
My Uncle, who loved Porsche 356es, also had one of these for a while:
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That thing could move much faster than you expected.
holy crap, i had one of those in 88-89, it was a Nova with the Concourse trim level i want to say it hada 305ci in it? it was ear wax gold in color and banana fast on the highway (i made it from Calgary to North Vancouver in under 7 hours and vice versa a bunch of times) it had a hatch so you could put 215cm Super Gs up between the seats, great ski car for a single guy. thanks for the memoriesQuote:
Originally Posted by Chainsaw_Willie
Never said they couldn't. DuhQuote:
Originally Posted by stfu&gbtw
You seem to confusing personal finance with having a hobby that you do on the cheap.Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Steve
Fixing up your own car to save dough does not equal the gearhead who wants to have a couple fun toys but doesnt want to blow the bank. You want to save as much money as possible, where the gearhead knows hes blowing money, but doesnt want to take a second mortgage on the house..
So yeah, two different intended meaning of the word budget going on here.
305 often called the "boat anchor." 262 block with 350 crank, or something like that. Often ridiculed by Chevy (pronounce that with a hard "ch") enthusiasts. A real small block Nova has a 350 or a 327 fer chrissakes :fmicon:Quote:
Originally Posted by waxman