Ukraine

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iirc krushev from Ukraine was while stalin was from Georgia.

I think you are correct

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A senior Kremlin official rejected the idea of a temporary ceasefire, as proposed by U.S. President Donald Trump's administration, saying Russia was only interested in a long-term resolution of the Ukraine conflict, Russian media reported. Yuri Ushakov, an aide to Russian President Vladimir Putin, gave an interview to the Russia-1 TV channel. "We believe that our goal is a long-term peaceful settlement, we strive for this, a peaceful settlement that takes into account the legitimate interests of our country, our well-known concerns," Ushakov said, Interfax reported. "It seems to me that no one needs any steps that imitate peaceful actions in this situation."

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Well........

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Originally Posted by Meconium

Surprised the news of a Russian captain T-boning a us tanker filled with military jet fuel hasn't.....

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https://news.sky.com/story/amp/capta...-says-13326888

A veritable act of war?

Russian captain? Most likely he was dead drunk on vodka when the accident occurred. But I wasnt there

Crazy Ivan?

Russia has been winning, and for a limg time, when they see no benefit to a ceasefire. Now what?

When you all admit that, let’s make some kind of plan.


Like, send them an air craft carrier?



I say pull out.

That shoulda been your dad’s plan

Wouldn't we have to go in before we can pull out?

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Originally Posted by pfluffenmeister

Crazy Ivan?

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I laft.

Cono I think most of us would agree that Russia should pull out, and have been saying so for quite a while. Glad you're getting up to speed.

Maybe someday Trump & Co will realize the only way to get Putin to negotiate is to wreck Russia's ability to wage war, instead of undermining Ukraine's ability to defend itself. Russia was not winning, not by a long shot, until Trump reversed the equation

Multiberse

We agree, but How do we wreck Russias ability to wage war?

Send them a B-1 squadron?

The entire untied states strategic bomber force, approx 150 aircraft, with conventional payloads, could not stop the Russia war making ability.

We made 12,000 bombers in ww2.

No need to be so dramatic. The Russian economy was quite literally collapsing up until Trump threw Putin a lifeline. Just look at a Ruble chart from this past December to now. Moscow had closed its stock exchange, Russian central banker Elvira Nabiullina had stated publicly she was no longer able to control inflation without raising the key rate beyond the already high 21-percent, and Russia's major industries were on the brink of collapse.

All of that is still true to some extent, but since Trump's inauguration their economy has pulled back from disaster just enough to keep the war going. The only thing left keeping the Russian economy alive is record oil & gas export revenues which sustain the Russian war machine. Russia is devoting more than 40-percent of its economy to the war effort. Anything non-defense is stagnating or shrinking in real terms due an official 10-percent (>20-percent real) inflation rate.

The appearance of a growing Russian economy is an illusionary synthetic reality based on labor shortages, enormous government spending on war material & troop costs, and exhausted production capacity. Without military spending the Russian economy is cooked. Putin is caught in an economic trap of his own making. Tighten sanctions & increase export transaction costs, and Putin's war is done

Supposedly Keith Kellogg was sidelined as Russians request. Guessing Trump also sidelined him but that could keep going back and forth depending on what side of the bed. Supposedly the GLSDB have been fixed and are due to arrive, or not. The US announced tightening sanctions on Russia's oil, gas, and banking sectors. With this administration's track record, is that for like one day?

Multi verse is now blaming trump before he was even inaugurated. Ok

This is the toughest negotiation ever, I give it a 10% chance.

It’s calling everyones bluff though.

You've got that backwards, Cono. Russian financial markets surged *after* Trump's inauguration: Russian economy up; American economy down. You've been looking through Putin's taint-ed glasses for too long. Maybe it's time to make the switch from promoting Putin's talking points to bragging about all the cancer research they stopped here in America. That's at least real.

Credit where credit is due, per Merconium, Trump allowed the oil exemption issued under Biden, to expire on schedule. That's a good thing. Owning European leaders, Russia, and libs all at once, a true Trumpian coup de grâce

The Ground Launched Small Diameter Bombs is a warranty replacement/refurbish. Not a new deal but it's something.

Guessing Lockheed Martin and Northrup-Grumman are getting perturbed. Trumps made a huge mistake controlling equipment capabilities.

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Originally Posted by Cono Este

Multi verse is now blaming trump before he was even inaugurated. Ok

This is the toughest negotiation ever, I give it a 10% chance.

It’s calling everyones bluff though.

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OK Neville

It's important to point out once again the MAGA / Putin narrative that Russia is winning and has unlimited resources is contradicted by Russian mil bloggers who are actually closer to the fighting:

“the Ukrainians are becoming bolder by the day, counterattacking and even pushing us out of several defended positions.” he argues before discussing “a severe shortage of troops for assault operations”

https://t.me/voenkorKotenok/62436

The Russian army is a shadow of its former self. Russia is using donkeys and horses for transportation. Russia is using wounded soldiers on crutches, forced marching them towards the front, to discover Ukrainian fire positions. The Russian army is rummaging the bottom of the barrel of society looking for troops among the physically and mentally disabled, fooling them into conscription:

https://t.me/akashevarova/7822

The reality is, Russia is only winning in Trump's and MAGAs' imagination

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Originally Posted by Meconium

Guessing Lockheed Martin and Northrup-Grumman are getting perturbed. Trumps made a huge mistake controlling equipment capabilities.

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Yeah, that dumb move by Trump is going to effect US defence stock prices for decades.

When Ukraine attacked kursk, i and probably many others, wondered what the strategy was, besides a PR stunt to show its backers that Ukraine still can win.
Well, it turned out to be a complete waste of resources, people and weapons.

This is what happens when rulers get desperate for some good news.

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I was always skeptical of the Kursk operation, though it went far better and longer than I would have thought plausible.

Was wasteful?

Depends, I guess, on how one looks at this politically- it did nothing to destabilize Putin, but it may have complicated the cease-fire calculus enough to have pushed the lame-duck Biden Administration into some more aggressive decisions.

Gen. Budanov argues that the operation was done to provide a morale victory for Ukraine, which it certainly was. But did it justify such a large and costly operation?

I posted here before that Ukraine's situation is ideal for Fabian strategy, and where this has been applied, it's worked pretty fucking well.

The Kursk operation never fit into that scheme.

Russia suffered catastrophic losses retaking Kursk—nearly 55,000 casualties: over 22,000 killed, 32,000 wounded, another 1,000 captured, along with more than 2,000 pieces of Russian equipment including tanks, APCs, trucks, and aircraft. Not to mention all the concessions and humiliation over kowtowing to North Korea for troops and ammunition

Kursk was a pr stunt, thousands of their best trained men and equipment lost.

No military value.

Let not forget the spring offensive. When you think you can flip the historical numbers attacking an entrenched enemy and find out bravery only takes you so far.

Unless you guys have some more rusty equipment to send, or are ready to send nato troops , kicking the can down the road with cash won’t work much longer.

And no,,we’re starting g ww3 for everyone to save face.

"Let's skip ww3 and have a civil war instead you twat" - Cono Este

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Originally Posted by Meconium

Guessing Lockheed Martin and Northrup-Grumman are getting perturbed. Trumps made a huge mistake controlling equipment capabilities.

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Yeah there is also a question mark with starlink.


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Kicking the can down the road certainly won’t work much longer for Putin

I found this to sum things up perfectly.

Security is going to be Impossible. They fought bravely backed by a promise, but from the beginning, we didn’t send enough, especially the euros talking a tough game now. And like it or not, there was an election.

https://youtu.be/RgoaWMKfWlg?si=ZYKNap3ldXa-OtuN

I don’t think anyone with half a brain is interested in what a Moscovian college dropout claims on his podcast, but no one is really surprised that these are the kind of people you get your opinions from.

Since April 2018, Kisin has been co-presenter (with Francis Foster) of Triggernometry, a YouTube channel and podcast. The primary format of the channel is the prerecorded interview; the channel brands itself as holding "honest conversations with fascinating people",[12] and has been described as "anti-woke" by The Times and "hard-right" by openDemocracy

Blah, blah, blah. I don’t even know the guys name, but I fucking listen to people.

It’s true. Security will be a nightmare and forcing it does not bring about lasting peace.

And yes, you used Ukraine. Biden sent them too little, too late, bacuse of the nuclear threat. Maybe some of you were correct about that. Only you blamed cono and not pressured your own admin.

Also, he makes a good point about nato expansion, contrary to what I generally believe.

NATO expansion is only a problem to aggressor nations seeking to violate sovereign borders. Anyone not prostrate to Putin can see that.

"We need to forget about Ukraine and focus on problems at home. The woke agenda. Kids identifying as cats using litter boxes at schools. You are a traitor. I know. I listen to people, like my daddy." - Cono Este

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Originally Posted by RTsucks

"We need to forget about Ukraine and focus on problems at home. The woke agenda. Kids identifying as cats using litter boxes at schools. You are a traitor. I know. I listen to people, like my daddy." - Cono Este

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Do not forget the ALL IMPORTANT bathroom issue. :rolleyes:

"People who wipe sitting down a traitors you twat. They will all be in prison stripes soon. Then you will see how corrupt crazy joe was." - Cono Este

The sad thing is Obama didn't do shit. At the time, Biden was lucid but cast aside, Obama should have listened to his vice president.Trump is a pussy and will end up dementia x2 with bad caregivers.

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Help us Agent Krasnov, you're our only hope!

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