I vow to drink some Boss Hog before I die, but someone's gonna have to gift me.
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I vow to drink some Boss Hog before I die, but someone's gonna have to gift me.
I was wondering if I would see Baby Saz come off the allocated shelf. I've been seeing way more of it lately too at ID stores. Different state and totally different distribution model, but I've been seeing a ton more Eagle Rare in WA also. Like 6 months ago you'd never see one on the shelves and now I can walk into 5 different Yokes/Rosauers in Spokane and pick one off the shelf for like $34 (plus our ridiculous 20% liquor tax PLUS our ridiculous $3.77 Liter Tax).Quote:
Originally Posted by snapt
I'd really like to see more EH Taylor come around, especially if we could get it at the MSRP for the rest of the country. Stores are marking it at like $62 plus tax, IF they're not gouging (I've seen it for $100+t). You can get the small batch in CA all over the place for under $40.
So, traded two Blantons ($60 each) and $200 for a 10 year Rip Van Winkle. Trading the RVW for three Stagg Jr.'s.
I have a good source for BT and a fairly decent price. Blantons, BT and Eagle Rare typically pop up when the Virginia stores across the street to a limited release about every two weeks. Take the office staff and make a run. They typically shelve about 10 Blantons, and about 30 BT and ER.
Boss Hogg is alright, but not worth those prices. Had it a few times @ my hotles.
BTY & Eagle Rare still around these parts ( ER in the rack right now) just prices have gone up, its like Weller 10 years ago
I've had three of the Boss Hogs (V-VII) at a buddy's and while good, no way I'd buy it at $600 a bottle to drink it.
I have sworn off all of the cask flavored tastes-like-shit-that-isn't-bourbon stuff. I've picked up a couple at the Virginia releases, and haven't found a decent one yet.
No way in hell I'm dumping $600 on a fricking fig-infused alcoholic beverage. But I do like Fig-Newtons.
I have spent $0 on everything I’m about to mention, so ymmv.
Boss Hog is a lot of hype. I have sampled 2-6 and I don’t think they’re getting better. I enjoyed 2 and 3, and unlike the rest of the world thought 4 was overwhelming on the palate.
On the same scale as BH it’s worth checking if a fancy watering hole has any Booker’s Rye left. If less than $100 an ounce, that was one of the few whiskeys I have tasted that is worth the premium.
Ken, if you’re in Virginia do you ever get Catoctin Creek? I have tried all of their releases pre 2020 and am a big fan. Perhaps a bit plush for a Stagg drinker. Another Virginia favorite is Ragged Branch, which is one of the many VA distilleries Dave Pickerell was involved with.
Haven't tried either variety of Catoctin Creek or Ragged Branch. Just looked on the ABC website, and the closest store with them is about an hour away.
Any particular varieties you like of either?
The Ragged Branch Secretariat Reserve Straight Bourbon that looked nice, but only distributed through the lottery. The Ragged Branch Straight Bourbon Wheated looked like a winner.
Wheated is the way with Ragged Branch, the Roundstone 92 is the sweet spot in the Catoctin lineup. Although if you find the Bonded Rabble Rouser, that was my go-to in a Manhattan for a while.
Neither is worth an hour detour but would make happy additions to your cabinet if you run into them.
Meh. 23 y.o Pappy's is where the money is.Quote:
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In Oregon, a criminal investigation is under way after an internal probe concluded several state liquor officials used their clout to obtain scarce bourbons, including the holy grail for bourbon fanatics: Pappy Van Winkle 23-year-old, which can sell for tens of thousands of dollars on resale markets. That brand is so popular that it found itself at the center of criminal investigations in at least three other states, from Virginia to Pennsylvania to Kentucky.
The cases underscore how demand has reached a fever pitch. A limited number of Pappy Van Winkle 23-year, produced by Old Rip Van Winkle Distillery of Frankfort, Kentucky, goes to each state. In 2022, Oregon received just 33 bottles.
“The average person cannot get good bottles," said Cody Walding, a bourbon aficionado from Houston who has been on the hunt for Buffalo Trace Distillery's five-bottle Antique Collection. He hasn't been able to find any despite making connections with liquor store managers. He believes he's years away from success.
“Like, to be able to get Pappy Van Winkle or Buffalo Trace Antique Collection, unless you’re basically best friends with a store manager, I don’t even think it’s possible to get those, " he said.
In a Los Angeles bar that Walding visited last week, one shot of Pappy 23-year cost $200.
Eagle Rare and Blantons in stock locally today. Granted, I don't exactly live in a market with demand for higher end whiskey, but it looks like BT self distributing to state controlled states is already benefiting consumers.
There's a Booker's Little Book Chapter 6 collecting dust at MSRP. Reviews aren't on par with the previous chapters being a malt/bourbon blend so I've held off. Anyone tried it?
Question for the collective. We are heading out on a road trip that will include the bouton trail in Kentucky. As we were booking tours I noticed one of the brands at Heavens Hill is Old Fitzgerald. That triggered a memory of a bottle I got from my grandparents. Dug it out this afternoon and did some research online.
It’s a half pint 8 year old Very Old Fitzgerald made in 64 and bottled in 72. Didn’t realize it was made by Pappy Van Winkle when he was running Stitzel-Weller. 72 is when they broke things up and sold everything off. Seems like it’s a collectors item. What should I do with it?
1. Crack it open and drink it. Grandparents had 2 bottles, I got one and my brother got one. He drank his a few years ago and said it wasn’t that good. He doesn’t like wheated bourbons though so not sure I trust his assessment. Likely the only time I’ll ever taste something made by Pappy.
b. Sell it. Might get a few hundred to a couple of grand. Use proceeds to by good bourbon on our trip.
iii. Keep it as a cool item. Don’t really have a place to display but I’ll still have it and it’ll remind me of my grandparents.
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I’m seeing 4000+ on the innerwebz for pints
Wow. Definitely message me if you want to sell it Flounder. Also message if you want some KY recs, I lived in Louisville for 8 years.
I’d drink it—that feels like one id really miss if I sold. A great bottle to share with friends or special occasions.
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Drink it
Same. Drink it with friends.
I would get a pro to estimate its value before I cracked it. Might be worth more than you think.
I'd rather a couple thousand bucks of heli time than a pint of whiskey.
Sell it and go on a trip of a lifetime
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Mix it with Diet Coke and drink it
Gotta drink it.
Heh, sometimes when I order some way rare top shelf bourbon or rye at a bar, I’ll tell the barkeep to mix it with Diet Pepsi. Then tell them j/k while they’re staring at me incredulously, though a couple have shrugged and reached for the hose before I yell “No! Kidding!”Quote:
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Wow. I think we are leaning towards drinking it. Sent pics to a couple of places for appraisal, including the L.A Whiskey Society that Meadow Skipper linked to. I guess what it really comes down to is if it’s still going to taste good after all these years. If it’s well past it’s prime and only good for collectors I’ll part with it. If it’s going to taste half way decent, we are both planning to retire in about 3 years and that seems like a good way to kick off a life of leisure.
Cantdog, I’ll pm for recommendation. If we decide to sell I’ll give you first dibs.
Drink it
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Enjoy Bourbon trail
Need to go, broke down in Bardstown once, but have a hotel in Lville now.....
I asked a friend who collects those bottles, he said definitely drink it. The usual concern is with oxidation from a bad cork, he said your bottle looks perfect for the age with little evaporation.
He said notes will be predominant caramel, almost like kettle corn with some pepper. Also that the oak notes are incredibly nuanced compared to modern whiskeys because the barrels used were 120+ years old at the time.
He said soak the cork before opening by turning the bottle upside down.
And that you have a true unicorn on your hands. Most likely less than a thousand bottles of those left in the wild.
Hope that helps.
ETA He reminded me that I've had the four year 86 proof from the same era. My biggest memory of that tasting is that is was like tasting really great Burgundy; nuance that doesn't mean as much if you're not prepared for it. Which means you should drink a lot of great whiskey over the next three years for comparison.
If you wanted to sell it call Justin at Justin’s House of Bourbon in Louisville. He is licensed to purchase and sell out of circ bottles. He could appraise it and probably would offer wholesale and add it to his massive Old Fitz collection. Anything corked from DSP KY16 is going to bring good money. Inflated sites online would try to sell it for $4-5K. I’d say realistically you have a $2-2,500 bottle in todays market.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flounder
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The Justin’s locations were raided earlier this year because of issues surrounding fraud and something to do with interstate selling. Place has always been way overpriced—I don’t think I’d trust them for an appraisal.
In a bottle that good of shape with the box you’re looking at several thousand easy. Market has cooled slightly, but that’s a unicorn.
It’s been several years since I’ve had any old stitzel weller bourbon but I’ve never had a bad one that came from a bottle with a decent fill level(I think I had one that probably was in a flooded basement that was….not good). In the glut days I would also mix it in cocktails from time to time, ha. Makes a great manhattan!
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I just saw the raid news deal. Shady people doing shady things. Scratch the Justin’s suggestion. I did sell 5 bottles to him in 2021. Didn’t seem shady and I walked away happy with a legit check.Quote:
Originally Posted by CantDog
Thanks Ghost for the background and tips. It’s going to be kept for drinking. Talked with my brother today and he drank his at deer camp a few years ago. Said the cork was shot, so thanks for the tip about soaking it. He thought it was good but nothing special. One of the places I sent photos to responded within an hour offering $500 for the bottle so I know it’s worth quite a bit more than that.
Hoping to get a few good bottles while we are in Kentucky. Planning to hit the major places with tours booked at Angels Envy, Beam, Heaven Hill, Four Roses, and my free ambassador for life Makers Mark tour. Probably stop by Woodford and Buffalo Trace as well. We should come away with some good knowledge and bourbon to train our palette before we crack this bottle.
May not wait until retirement to drink, we have a total solar eclipse coming directly over the house next year. That would be two once in a life time events at once.
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Not made to far from here but...Quote:
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Vanilla? no
nor cherry, nor cinnamon. Bourbon should taste like bourbon.
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If wheated Bourbons were more common I'd be happy.
Thanks for the reminder. Had an excellent trip to Kentucky a few weeks ago. What to try tonight? So many choices now.
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Not sure if it counts for much but I vote for tucking into that heaven hill!
A little of each :)Quote:
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Geez! You win, man. That collection is outstanding.Quote:
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That’s for sure one of the better bottles that we picked up. High proof but so smooooth.Quote:
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Ended up with a Woodford single barrel for tonight. Not in the pic as that was the hotel on our last night. Hit Woodford on our way home. It was well worth the long drive to be able to bring back a few years worth of really good bourbon.
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Father’s Day gift for dad that he’s nice enough to share.
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