2 of us have told you lectric splitters work, whipski even posted splitting porn
you probably shouldn't believe us then, so spend mo money
and split it all by hand
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2 of us have told you lectric splitters work, whipski even posted splitting porn
you probably shouldn't believe us then, so spend mo money
and split it all by hand
You said they work with 16" rounds. 16" soft wood rounds split if you look at them hard. 30" rounds are a different story, especially if they're a bit green.Quote:
Originally Posted by XXX-er
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well I did specify < 16" I did say if you want to split 30 " rounds you need something bigger,
while you are telling me you don't think electric splitters work period but you have never actulay used one
be a man split by hand
I used an electric splitter. It was new about ten years ago and belonged to a friend. I don’t know the model or capacity. It didn’t work well for hard woods. He sold it, and like me, started renting big gas splitters when needed. Idk what’s changed/new with e-splitters. If I could afford one, I would love to have one around and not have to rent, but only if it’d work out with the type of wood available to me.
I enjoy splitting wood but my cheap ebay electric splitter is still tits. All we split is pine but I'll be damned if it gives me a bit of trouble even with big ole rounds.
And you're saying they do work, but you've never split any decent size wood with them. So I guess that makes us even.Quote:
Originally Posted by XXX-er
Any electric splitter that's big enough to handle a 30" round costs at least as much, if not more than a gas splitter anyways. So unless you live in California, I don't see the point in going electric.
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If I get a splitter it’ll be electric - I’m cutting piñon and juniper that’s mostly smaller around than an Ethiopian’s neck.
No I was talking about a 6 ton electirc working on 12-16 "Quote:
Originally Posted by toast2266
So do you just split t those by hand or they split when you look at them ?
Can you do 8-10 cords in couple days ?
And the two asking about this today both live in California :)Quote:
Originally Posted by toast2266
Sure. That was kinda my main point; splitting power aside, gas splitters are faster. Like, the hydraulic ram moves faster.Quote:
Originally Posted by XXX-er
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yeah I used a gas powered splitter at my last house sit, and I've split 8-10 cords of 12-16" round by electric splitter in 2 days,
I'm gona call horse shit
You can call whatever you want. Cycle time is a published spec on every splitter. The electrics are all substantially slower.Quote:
Originally Posted by XXX-er
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8-10 cords is a lot of wood , I don't think you have split 8-10cords^^ cycle time isnt gona matter all that much
Agreed, 8-10 cords is a lot of wood. It takes me around 2-3 hours to split a cord, so 8-10 would take 2, maybe 3 days. I only need 5-ish a year, so that's what I generally split. But regardless, a slow splitter definitely makes things take longer. You don't have to take my word for it - go on any of the firewood forums. The main complaint about electric splitters is that they're slow.Quote:
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2 axes. Maybe a maul as backup for the really big rounds. And at least one pickaroon.
I use the big 6lb Collins as a wedge on the far side of a round, and then 1-3 swings as fast as I can with the Fiskers on the near side. Having the big axe buried in the far side makes the difference.
Pickaroon is there to prevent another back surgery and it works wonders in that regard.
If it took more than 8 hours of axe swinging over the course of a few days to put up enough wood for the season, maybe a splitter would make sense, but it's too much fun and too good a forced workout to give up the axe.
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so now you are saying actualy they do workQuote:
Originally Posted by toast2266
Any commercialy available splitter is a hydralic pump run by an electric or a gas a motor to move the ram
So are all brands of electric slow I used one with a 2 speed ram
We cut 8 cords with el-cheapo electric splitter this year. Or I should say, my wife did. She loves that task. I don’t know how long it took but it’s better than swinging an axe. The e-saw was also better than the two stroke (for me). I’m a fan of both.
Its not very manly admitting any of that ^^ so kudos to you ;)
How big were the rounds is an important question cuz apparently the splitter itself would be crushed by the wood it was suposed to split ?
12-14” max diameter lodgepole, feminine wood only. None of that manly oak shit;)Quote:
Originally Posted by XXX-er
I mean…. I’ve been told by friends and have read it here that the black oak that I usually deal with is easier to split when it’s green. I’ve tried, but I’ve always developed the excuse (go to the river, go on a bike ride, go on a walk, go to the laundromat because the septic is backing up, re-organize my closet, play with the dog, grovel under my crawl space, etc.) to not deal with trying to hand split or rent a splitter for splitting my oak rounds until they are stringy and dry and ready to burn. Even with the big rental splitters, it’s not always easy. The big pondo pine rounds are usually very easy to split when dry.
From a snowcat forum I tend to visit:
This guy has life by the balls.
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Picked up a used 400 4x4 Atv. Want to get a log arch to haul logs out. Old woods road, little elevation gain, but some bumps. Few cords a year of firewood. Maybe some logs for milling if it goes well. Any advice?
I've kicked around similar ideas for a while. I've dragged wood around with a variety of vehicles. Moves pretty easy if you're on a road. I bet you could haul some big pieces with an arch.Quote:
Originally Posted by cat in january
Seems like it'd work really well if you have a specific zone that you can pull a lot of wood out of. Probably works less well if the wood is spread out and you're driving all over the place.
Let us know how it goes if you end up doing it.
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Not a lot of good firewood, but some nice stands of mature spruce for milling. Will report back. I have a few weeks of ski trips coming up and finally have a good snow pack so may wait until next Winter to haul wood out
Are you looking at felling and milling dead standing spruce, or green wood? Advise not wasting your time with dead spruce unless it is within a year dead - it checks far too fast and you won’t get good boards. Not great for firewood either, but better than wasting the energy milling. One year dead could be made into cants, but usually have poor structural strength.
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I've skidded quite a bit of logs with trucks, tractors and quads. The quad was getting beat up pretty bad pulling logs but I didn't have a log arch, that might be a game changer. My preferred rig is a small 4x4 tractor with log tongs on the 3 point. We could just back up and drop the tongs on the log, lift and drive off. Once we got the log where we wanted to drop it, just set it down and drive off once the tongs released.
Nice live spruce. People burn it, but I would not bother with it. Several species of maple scattered around is all I have for firewood trees.
I used to scoff at the Pickeroon.
Then I turned 40 and I won’t cut wood without it.
I like my peavey, never used a pickeroon. Looks a bit more manageable if hiking in.
Oh, yes - same here. My favorite part is keeping my gloves dry when spitting in wet slop, this was a game changing realization for me. Used to think they were for lazy shits, but I've seen the light.Quote:
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Had some dead larch out the back of my property that was close enough to be convenient, but *just* far enough that moving it to my splitting zone / shed was a pain in the ass.
Modified this wheelie cart I had lying around to carry logs. Worked great. Actually worked well enough that I'm considering building a less janky version for more frequent use.
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