Yeah, that's what they all said right before they smacked into the ground. Sorry to be an ass, I've just seen too many go down flying in inclement weather.Quote:
Originally Posted by sfotex
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Yeah, that's what they all said right before they smacked into the ground. Sorry to be an ass, I've just seen too many go down flying in inclement weather.Quote:
Originally Posted by sfotex
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Originally Posted by Trackhead
that's why we elected to walk/ski out rather than take a ride. the vis was pretty good otherwise and seemed reasonable to be flying. i do agree that sometimes it (the heli) is a hazard that needs to be avoided but in that situation with the info we had at the time, it was the way to go.
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just to clarify, the vis was bad before ~3pm and turned bad again just after the last patient flew out.
guess i will stop being a boner and start wearing my helmet
I'm not criticizing you guys, as ultimately, it's the pilots decision to fly or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by AltaPowderDaze
BTW, I think that's the same LZ Tumbledown utilized in his cartwheel off the Dresden.
The heli is way overused in Utah, and I'm not just talking about mountain stuff, that's probably the place it's most needed. But I don't know how many times I've seen someone flown when they were damn near sixes by ground.
In conditions news, the rock was warm and dry today and we threw down 10 pitches of trad in LCC. Hopefully this weather makes corn cause I still have stuff to do.
Anyone know if we got a freeze last night? Hoping a corn cycle gets going.Quote:
Hopefully this weather makes corn cause I still have stuff to do.
I use the Wizard's formula to help decide. Here it is from TTips:
I use the 50° rule. Been using it for, hell... as long as I can remember(same medicine?).
If the low temperature at the airport was above 50° and skies were clear=marginal, no refreeze. Below fifty is good. Below 40° and you can stay out all day iffen ya follow the softening.
Skied SE aspect from ~10k this morning at about 9. Enjoyable and almost corn. Wish we'd had time to go back up and ski NW facing with the sun, as it seemed like it received a decent freeze. Below about 9k was mush.
life before intertoobz. or no intertoobz at all. ya used to have to fail and figure, fail and figure again till ya got it right. now we got a search button.Quote:
Originally Posted by PowderAlltheTime
hope all that 700+ inches becomes useful for y'all for more than a few minutes at a time soon. summer snowpack cometh..........
rog
The figure helps prevent fail.
Using a rotary phone, a person could call time and get the current temperature at the airport.
Then, (wonders of technology)turn on the weather radio, get a forecast, current temperatue and low temperature. Still the easiest way.
No intertoobs required.
Gonna be awhile before summer snow. Even then, it's faster when it freezes.
Good day with Gnarwhale and Tom on the north face of Timp.
We skied the face of Timp in clouds at 10am. Good firm neve, somewhat shallow refreeze, good mid-elevation freeze/thaw occurring. Some climbers in the Grunge said it was pretty icy.
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Deseret road is still officially closed for the year, but the gate was open...
Snowline near the end of the summer road. Loads of coverage up high. Stiff snow up high today, corn-ish snow down low.
fucking solid. you guys rock! I've also been drooling over that line for some time. way to go for it in the shitty viz.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trackhead
Nice. I'll have to wander over and take a peak.Quote:
Originally Posted by salida
Anyone go out today? Looks like upper LCC/BCC got at least a few?
there was a solid 8 inches of new snow when i left grizzly at 1:30 today, and it was coming down very hard. it was very, very touchy, i cut across the top of the gully near the bottom and cracks shot everywhere.
For sure if my math is right it looks like about 13 new at Alta mid mtn. Was the snow right side up?
yeah it was definitely getting lighter, skins were not functioning well first lap but seemed to be OK after that. it was that type of shit that, if you get out onto a little steeper slope, will just give away, which is normally just really annoying but in the right spot i could see this packing a good punch if it gave out. maybe as it cools down it'll settle out but it just didn't seem to have bonded well at all to the underlying crust. 13 by now definitely sounds possible.
Dusk Patrol tonight was really good. Skied 9500-7500 north facing 30-40 degrees steepness at 8:30 p.m. 12-15 inches new snow came in really light, only .70 inches of water! But temps in the upper 30s made the snow feel wet below ~8750? We avoided starting zones and just skied the boring 2000 foot runout with no activity. The only signs of instability were limited to point releases off trees. Although it seemed ripe for friction caused wet slides if you needed to ski steeper terrain, but the steeper breakovers we skied over stayed put. Showery snow today in Alta, but each squall that would come through would lay down a few inches really quickly. Really nice to ski classic lines in good snow with no one around. I'll be avoiding big steep lines and known starting zones personally, as it seems like the danger is escalating on that terrain over the next ~48 hours. I was reluctant to post anything, as it is nice having the place to yourself.
Oh, and Trackhead, heres an aerial shot of the north face of Timp (nice job) from February of '08 and one of my favorite shots of you're line on Monte Cristo from this January.
http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/bi2/attach/jpg.gif
http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/bi2/attach/jpg.gif
Jorts made the hike much easier.Quote:
Originally Posted by salida
Sweet pic of Timp! I guess that other photo is your too? Permission to use the aerial posted above?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wintergreen
An honest 2ft. of new at top of Collins this morning. Steep slope angles needed to get enough speed with 110mm under foot.
Amazing morning.
Sure you can use the photo. The other is mine also. I have a bunch of aerial recon photos, I tried to post the best of them in the fall, but it was the first thread I tried to start and didn't go through for some reason. I'll get more up some time.
Like these two; in case you want to do some mellow east facing corn skiing this spring, or some serious mountaineering in the land of the dancing sun.
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^^^^Love those pics. Classic East Ridge, one of the best in the Wasatch.
Heavy snow up north. Should have made the drive.
That was fun. That is all.
Tease, you didn't even feather my balls! ;-)Quote:
Originally Posted by Phall
Didn't want to tell people I skied Fred's Trees/Collins Liftline to keep it safe. I was fun though.
110? your L120's finally dead?Quote:
Originally Posted by Trackhead
Closer to 18" top o Claytons cept for a few deeper hollow sensitive ridgetop windslabs. Rain snow line about argenta/cardiff.
Pretty easy to start slow moving pushalanches on steeper slopes
Pretty deserted in the b double c
Lower elavation and S facing starting to melt off but Nfacing upper elavation still holdin a pretty amazing late march snowpack.
Jort Ski?Quote:
Originally Posted by Phall
Great to meet you BTW.
And great to meet you. Nice job also sporting a one piece.Quote:
Originally Posted by lionelhutz
My memory is a little fuzzy. Remind me of your jort outfit....
The denim one-piece and i am supposed to hook you up with my hot friend in Burlington.
Oh thats you! Lets just say my mustache was dyed.
End derail. Still snowing up there?
ooops, 120 under foot. I'm not into the tech.Quote:
Originally Posted by skifishbum
The DPS survived three seasons, still going strong. Should be good for a couple more years.
pretty good pow for mid may, probably say the same thing in mid june at this rate. Its fun when you can have great mid-winter tours and nobody is out. May is usually good for that. The snow was understandably swamped by the afternoon, top to bottom, but still a blast.
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http://ianprovo.smugmug.com/photos/i...-pqffpB5-L.jpg
^tyfalk having himself a little fantasy on may 18
June 6th, 2007.Quote:
Originally Posted by PROVO
http://fritzrips.com/Gallery1/albums...7/IMG_5725.jpg
June 7th, 2007.
http://fritzrips.com/Gallery1/albums...7/IMG_5830.jpg
Wait..you were at jortski? ...wish I had known, you're like my meteorology hero. I definitely appreciated the seasons worth of good news.:yourock:Quote:
Originally Posted by lionelhutz
end derail as well/
went out this afternoon and did a couple alta laps, defiantly want the fat skis for this snow, still fun as shit tho.
heading up collins with Altan today - probably ski sun spot - reports later today. i hate to think i will need to strip my torso to stay sweat free but who knows
ATTENTION
May 19, 2011
UDOT plans to conduct artillery avalanche control work in Little Cottonwood Canyon on Thursday, May 19th 2011. Please stay clear of all highway avalanche paths, from Maybird to Superior until after 3:00 pm. High likelihood that artillery avalanche control work will be carried out at during the morning, May 20, 2011. Stay clear of all highway avalanche paths from 0600 to 0800.
Will update on tomorrow's plans this afternoon/ evening.