Telemark skiing is dead.

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Originally Posted by riser4

Those would work. Anyone got a gently used pair they want to pass on?

For myself, if I'm meadowskipping I like wider skis. If I'm skiing in tracks, I like skis that are designed for that. I'm looking for thing#2 per order of my wife, her specifications. Our rope tow recreation area accross the street puts in set tracks on the xc trails. And its not a bad idea to have edges on two sections. Personally I just stay out of the tracks, the trails are wide enough.

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Well, the problem is that in many places -- here and in VT -- there are tracks for part of the ski and no tracks or not formally set tracks (what I called meadow-skipping) for some of the way. These skis work well as my go to track and pure xc ski (because I am unwilling to have yet another ski for purely in-track skiing). I am however looking for a pair of fat fishscale skis, like the Voile V6 BC, to mount with some pin bindings like Lynx, for meadow skipping of the more up/down/untracked variety.

I enjoy my alpina odyssey for the same reason as Danno. Just wide enough to fit in the set track, but paired with a set of voile X2’s and leathers make a fine low angle meadowskipping, even in deeper snow (they’re 215cm, and a bitch to turn with the camber-and-a-half). My wife has a shorter set of the same she pairs with some very comfy T4’s

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Originally Posted by Danno

Well, the problem is that in many places -- here and in VT -- there are tracks for part of the ski and no tracks or not formally set tracks (what I called meadow-skipping) for some of the way. These skis work well as my go to track and pure xc ski (because I am unwilling to have yet another ski for purely in-track skiing). I am however looking for a pair of fat fishscale skis, like the Voile V6 BC, to mount with some pin bindings like Lynx, for meadow skipping of the more up/down/untracked variety.

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Ah. There's meadow skipping and then there's meadow skipping. I'm on the same page. It's like you've been to our little hill.

Maybe not your little hill, but I learned to ski xc skiing in VT as a wee and not so wee lad.

I hate skiing tracks that folks have jammed their wide edged skis into. They end up blown out and slow. If you can’t nordic ski on 44mm wide skis, stay out of the tracks.

There, I said it.

Funny. I often used to wedge my karhu guides into tracks thinking it would help people on the skinny skis….my bad.


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He probably snarls & curses people with take their hounds for a run on the dog-friendly tracksets as well.

I love doggo skiing too!


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I use the Rossignol BC series. Used to have the BC125s, think mine now are BC90s? Awesome skis with fishscales. I have Voile Mountaineers on them. Quality 3-pins.

Also last season I broke a pair of Bishop BMFs. Sounds like it doesn’t happen a lot.

Y’all have seen the new rotte xcd binding? With the reverse low tech pin system. I’m intrigued, but a little skeptical about the durability of the pins-in-the-boot concept. I’d also prefer a t4-style double boot for the system rather than the current offerings.

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Originally Posted by BCMtnHound

He probably snarls & curses people with take their hounds for a run on the dog-friendly tracksets as well.

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C’mon, now. As long as the dogs are given the okay, I’m okay.

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Originally Posted by ski-wpk

Also last season I broke a pair of Bishop BMFs. Sounds like it doesn’t happen a lot.

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I dunno, I have also had reliability issues with my BMFs, but mostly breaking the plastic parts. Still, not a great design IMO, too finicky - I much prefer their OG and 2.0 Bombers.

The snowshoe crowd likes to obliterate the tracks at our little hill. My wife ran into a couple last year who were doing just that. They actually went so far as to comment how nice the trails were and wasn't it wonderful how someone put down tracks. Tromp tromp. My wife said she was speechless and mostly just stared at them open mouthed. I wasn't there, this was all in her report. In all fairness the trail hadn't been groomed, yet. But someone had put in a very nice track on skis. She did say at least that time she got out before the dog shit was laid down.

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Originally Posted by bodywhomper

Y’all have seen the new rotte xcd binding? With the reverse low tech pin system. I’m intrigued, but a little skeptical about the durability of the pins-in-the-boot concept. I’d also prefer a t4-style double boot for the system rather than the current offerings.

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I saw them online. Spendy. Intrigued by the concept especially since at least on paper and in the few write-ups they have good stability for p-turns. [I learned to "alpine" ski on-piste in Excursions on tele gear.] I'm an XCD type. Can't tele to save my life. Unfortunately it looks like there are only two boot manufacturers so far, and I have little hope that they are wide enough in the toe for my hobbit feet.

I wish XCD boot makers would embrace removable moldable liners, that would go a long ways to solving some of my fit issues.

The Xplore binding reminds me of something I saw online probably ten years ago here or on ttips. Some guy in Alaska had deconstructed a Scarpa boot, I think an F1 with bellows, and was using it with a tech toe piece as an XC rig.

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Originally Posted by Peruvian

I hate skiing tracks that folks have jammed their wide edged skis into. They end up blown out and slow. If you can’t nordic ski on 44mm wide skis, stay out of the tracks.

There, I said it.

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sorry not sorry :p

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Originally Posted by Danno

sorry not sorry :p

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This. Tracks should be a hair wider so they can accommodate the very common 68mm tip width of some xcd skis.

yeah, just checked, that is the exact tip width -- just the tip -- of the Glittertind.

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Originally Posted by Danno

yeah, just checked, that is the exact tip width -- just the tip -- of the Glittertind.

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Heh. Just the tip!

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Originally Posted by bodywhomper

Y’all have seen the new rotte xcd binding? With the reverse low tech pin system. I’m intrigued, but a little skeptical about the durability of the pins-in-the-boot concept. I’d also prefer a t4-style double boot for the system rather than the current offerings.

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Originally Posted by riser4

I saw them online. Spendy. Intrigued by the concept especially since at least on paper and in the few write-ups they have good stability for p-turns. [I learned to "alpine" ski on-piste in Excursions on tele gear.] I'm an XCD type. Can't tele to save my life. Unfortunately it looks like there are only two boot manufacturers so far, and I have little hope that they are wide enough in the toe for my hobbit feet.

I wish XCD boot makers would embrace removable moldable liners, that would go a long ways to solving some of my fit issues.

The Xplore binding reminds me of something I saw online probably ten years ago here or on ttips. Some guy in Alaska had deconstructed a Scarpa boot, I think an F1 with bellows, and was using it with a tech toe piece as an XC rig.

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Sorta like this. Ya, it's a link to the imposter site. https://www.telemarktalk.com/viewtop...tart=10#p17226

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Originally Posted by riser4

I saw them online. Spendy. Intrigued by the concept especially since at least on paper and in the few write-ups they have good stability for p-turns. [I learned to "alpine" ski on-piste in Excursions on tele gear.] I'm an XCD type. Can't tele to save my life. Unfortunately it looks like there are only two boot manufacturers so far, and I have little hope that they are wide enough in the toe for my hobbit feet.

I wish XCD boot makers would embrace removable moldable liners, that would go a long ways to solving some of my fit issues.

The Xplore binding reminds me of something I saw online probably ten years ago here or on ttips. Some guy in Alaska had deconstructed a Scarpa boot, I think an F1 with bellows, and was using it with a tech toe piece as an XC rig.

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There’s a nord on one of the tele FB pages that was sharing vids of himself using an xplore system last spring. Looked good. He’s a good skier.

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Originally Posted by Peruvian

I hate skiing tracks that folks have jammed their wide edged skis into. They end up blown out and slow. If you can’t nordic ski on 44mm wide skis, stay out of the tracks.

There, I said it.

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Start a thread over at the new TTips. You'll find a generation of agreerers

and more “blah blah blah” than you can shake a misery stick at

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Originally Posted by ~mikey b

and more “blah blah blah” than you can shake a misery stick at

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It's funny because it's true.

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Originally Posted by Tri-Ungulate

I dunno, I have also had reliability issues with my BMFs, but mostly breaking the plastic parts. Still, not a great design IMO, too finicky - I much prefer their OG and 2.0 Bombers.

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I broke metal parts. Metal tour lock bar sheared off.
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