The Official Argue About Where Upstate NY Is Thread

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Originally Posted by BmillsSkier

My bad muted, I was winging it from memory on who actually ordered. It is in fact unique in that it's the original brown stadium mustard that originated in Municipal Stadium in 1969 and is now served pretty much nationwide. It's made only with brown mustard seed, no sugar, fat or anything else. And it's fantastic.

Much like Buffalo's wings, there is a competing claim and a fracture in the family tree between Stadium Mustard and Bertman's Ballpark Mustard, as to the true O.G. Both excellent though. Upstaters love the shit on their brats n pretzels.

Clevelanders, be them Poles, Slovaks, Germans (both northern and bavarian), Ukranians, Czechs, Irish, English, non-orthodox Israeli, west siders and east siders and Italians all swear by it on their brats, pierogis, red hots, foot longs, kosher dogs, metts and sausages. It's probably the one thing the populous can agree on.

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Wait. Both Northern and Bavarian??

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Originally Posted by ötzi

Here come 7 months of Grey As Fuck!

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Truth. It's no joke. It's starts as innocuously as the ones in the donut pic, then after a glorious Indian Summer it sets in, HARD.

For ever.

But the good news is, tons of lake effect snow on the hills.

A yearly exercise in Vitamin D and general well-being status for me is the drive back to ATL from NE OH in the dead of winter after the holidays (geographically and climatically substantially the same as the Upstate/WNY) and seeing the sky blue up and the brown fade with every mile. Does wonders for the system. I still miss it in a weird way though.

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Originally Posted by ml242

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the mustard so good they had to name a bridge upstate and downstate after it.

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Um, no, that was a revolutionary war hero from Poland.

Perpetual grey sucks but the sunny days can be great. Seattle and Pittsburgh have similar sunshine.

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Originally Posted by ötzi

Wait. Both Northern and Bavarian??

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Truth.

The city was at one point the most nationality-diverse (if that's the term or if ethnically-diverse is more accurate) not that long ago and the industrialists that hailed from there, Rockefeller and Carnegie among them, helped bring in more immigrants in the coming decades. To this day there are still the same ethnically divided neighborhoods including those that are more aligned Northern German and Southern German (the biggest of which actually claim Cincinnati as their American home city)

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Originally Posted by BmillsSkier

It's the one thing that can bring a comfort to the long suffering Cleveland sports fan while enduring another gut-wrenching episode in the stadium.

Some say it possesses even healing, nay, magical, powers.

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.....so what's the ABV?

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Originally Posted by abraham

.....so what's the ABV?

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Depends on what you dump it in.

This should explain it Grey Skies and Brown Mustard:

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Originally Posted by ml242

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the mustard so good they had to name a bridge upstate and downstate after it.

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It’s like I just starting thinking about this and it materialized. I support this post 100 pro sent.


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Originally Posted by BmillsSkier

Truth. It's no joke. It's starts as innocuously as the ones in the donut pic, then after a glorious Indian Summer it sets in, HARD.

For ever.

But the good news is, tons of lake effect snow on the hills.

A yearly exercise in Vitamin D and general well-being status for me is the drive back to ATL from NE OH in the dead of winter after the holidays (geographically and climatically substantially the same as the Upstate/WNY) and seeing the sky blue up and the brown fade with every mile. Does wonders for the system. I still miss it in a weird way though.

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Will post of TR of my skin becoming transparent around mid-Jan. Gonna be the gnar.

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Originally Posted by riser3

So now you are placing Mawah, NJ in upstate NY?

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Nah, Rt 17 is a hard line of demarcation, NJ is another whole thread of it's own. I can't call it I86 yet especially with long stretches of heavily enforced 55mph speed limits.

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Originally Posted by BmillsSkier

I'm due to add another couple thousand miles on the car soon anyway. I love a road trip and if they haven't locked down the state to citizens of mine then I'm down.

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Just come up I81 through PA into the not upstate town of Binghamton and nobody will know any different. I say not upstate because the bulk of the city including downtown and the SUNY are south of that hard line, Rt 17.

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Originally Posted by ötzi

Here come 7 months of Grey As Fuck!

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Don't think of it as Grey AF think of the long sight lines through leafless trees with a distinct lack of mosquitoes and ticks. Stick season has a lot going for it really.

Ha. Stick season. I like it.

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Originally Posted by Benny Profane

Ha. Stick season. I like it.

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It beats fire season.

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Originally Posted by Mazderati

Perpetual grey sucks but the sunny days can be great. Seattle and Pittsburgh have similar sunshine.

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Upstate NY is the cloudiest place in the country. Yes, cloudier than Seattle. Rains more in Seattle though, cause rain is an event and nothing happens in Upstate NY.

Well, except for stuff like this:

https://youtu.be/OWaNswjZILU

In the words of Tommy Boy, "THAT. WAS. AWESOME.

But sorry about your Zamboni, sucks."

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Originally Posted by EWG

Upstate NY is the cloudiest place in the country. Yes, cloudier than Seattle. Rains more in Seattle though, cause rain is an event and nothing happens in Upstate NY.

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It may feel that way but it's not. NOAA's measurement of % Annual Possible Sunshine puts Seattle, Pitt, and several other cities neck-and-neck.

https://www1.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/...pctposrank.txt

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Originally Posted by EWG

Upstate NY is the cloudiest place in the country. Yes, cloudier than Seattle. Rains more in Seattle though, cause rain is an event and nothing happens in Upstate NY.

Well, except for stuff like this:

https://youtu.be/OWaNswjZILU

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Par for the course for 2020.

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Originally Posted by Mazderati

It may feel that way but it's not. NOAA's measurement of % Annual Possible Sunshine puts Seattle, Pitt, and several other cities neck-and-neck.

https://www1.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/...pctposrank.txt

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I think the true measure (and location of upstate for that matter) is determined by the suicide rate.

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Originally Posted by EWG

Upstate NY is the cloudiest place in the country. Yes, cloudier than Seattle. Rains more in Seattle though, cause rain is an event and nothing happens in Upstate NY.

Well, except for stuff like this:

https://youtu.be/OWaNswjZILU

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That's a catastrophe!

I hope they had a nice service for that Zamboni.

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Originally Posted by Mazderati

It may feel that way but it's not. NOAA's measurement of % Annual Possible Sunshine puts Seattle, Pitt, and several other cities neck-and-neck.

https://www1.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/...pctposrank.txt

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Lamoille County, VT has been high on the list of cloudiest counties. And IRCC it has beaten whatever county Seattle is in at least a few times. It is funny that we are arguing over which is the most depressing place in the country.

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Originally Posted by Mazderati

It may feel that way but it's not. NOAA's measurement of % Annual Possible Sunshine puts Seattle, Pitt, and several other cities neck-and-neck.

https://www1.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/...pctposrank.txt

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Depends on how you measure it I guess. The solar tables, which are used to calculate how much sunlight you can get to generate solar energy, firmly land central new york as the worst place in the country in terms of cloudy days.

Edit: Yup, I guess it depends on what you are counting. See link. Days with heavy cloud cover = Seattle w/ Buffalo second. Days that are cloudy days in general = Buffalo w/ Seattle second. I had no idea Pittsburgh was so bad, but it's close behind in both cases - good call there.

https://www.currentresults.com/Weath...est-cities.php

But here's the kicker - Syracuse is significantly cloudier than Buffalo. So when you head a bit east and let that lake effect really settle in you get some serious gloom. Those central cities in Syracuse and Utica aren't big enough to show up in the city lists, but they are some gray damn places.

So you do what you can. Burn a zamboni, mix all the grill droppings together and eat it and call it a food, bunch a dude over a beer argument. It's all good.

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Originally Posted by ötzi

I love all these pics upthread showing Upstate with the leaves. Yeah it looks great 2 weeks a year, no doubt. I'll give you that.

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Originally Posted by Benny Profane

Um, no, that was a revolutionary war hero from Poland.

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didn’t you say dave chapelle wasn’t funny? i’m taking this like the burlington BJJ comment as a sincere WOOSH and in light of the first fact, a compliment.

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Originally Posted by riser3

Lamoille County, VT has been high on the list of cloudiest counties. And IRCC it has beaten whatever county Seattle is in at least a few times. It is funny that we are arguing over which is the most depressing place in the country.

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We are arguing over this FOR THE CHILDREN.

Argument? Nah. Only coffee talk.

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