If only there was something we could do...

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Originally Posted by CarlMega

This form and process seems entirely reasonable to me. To paraphrase you, people who aren't fucked wouldn't have a problem being approved.

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It just, it makes absolutely no sense why it seems easier to get a gun than a drivers license or a case of beer (from the outside looking in, I realize this may not be true).

And after things like this happen, the IMMEDIATE dismissal of any sort of gun reform by politicians is bonkers. Like, you could still say "you know what this is worth looking in to" and then just say no later on. But the rush to just dismiss any firearm restrictions.... it's inexcusable.

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Originally Posted by sirbumpsalot

This private citizen seems to have done a better job than the police in Texas in preventing mass shooting escalation. Strange that the media hasn't given it more coverage (bias/narrative?):

https://wchstv.com/news/local/victim...eston-shooting

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the lack of reporting on it speaks to the infrequency of it, not that the media is purposely suppressing all the successful "good guy with gun" events

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Originally Posted by heckacali

Well, the conjugal partner requirement is clearly a roadblock for the tacti-cool incels....
but it is actually brilliant to keep those dangerous antisocial freaks from being armed.

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There is no requirement to be in a common law marriage or similar relationship to own a firearm in Canada. There is only the requirement to obtain signatures of those with whom you have been in such relationships in the last 2 years as one of several sanity checks on whether or not an applicant should be approved.

Just clearing this up before y'all start spreading rumours down there "hey did ya know you gotta actually be FUCKING someone in Canada to even own a gun? they're crazy up there!"

To JC's point about it being a failure of the dems (not that I agree in absolving anyone on the other side from not caring at all) to get reasonable gun control passed, this old article provides a nice framework:

https://www.gawker.com/the-gun-contr...tic-1734711064

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Originally Posted by sirbumpsalot

This private citizen seems to have done a better job than the police in Texas in preventing mass shooting escalation. Strange that the media hasn't given it more coverage (bias/narrative?):

https://wchstv.com/news/local/victim...eston-shooting

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I mean good for her she is a hero, but do you work in a newsroom and know why these stories are not on the front page of the NYT? Me neither, just speculating too. But if newsrooms just published the story to show how guns are good, isn't that biased reporting? No innocent people died, just a criminal. If that criminal killed a bunch of people THEN the lady shot him, it's then national news IMO.

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Originally Posted by paulster2626

There is no requirement to be in a common law marriage or similar relationship to own a firearm in Canada. There is only the requirement to obtain signatures of those with whom you have been in such relationships in the last 2 years as one of several sanity checks on whether or not an applicant should be approved.

Just clearing this up before y'all start spreading rumours down there "hey did ya know you gotta actually be FUCKING someone in Canada to even own a gun? they're crazy up there!"

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Yep, and it's likely because domestic violence is heavily correlated with using guns to injure others.

What the FUCK are we doing to our kids?
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Think of how people got filled with rage over mask use in kids and the “damage” it was gone do to their development…

Wow, what a shitshow of a press conference going on now

As of this moment, k-12 students in the United States are more likely to be fatally shot than on-duty police officers.

2022 number of dead cops: 20
2022 number of dead kids: 24

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Originally Posted by The SnowShow

What the FUCK are we doing to our kids?
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Price of freedumb, my man... price of freedumb.

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Originally Posted by paulster2626

In Canadian: Sorry to say but our system fucking rocks. Yours is broken. Get over it. Sent my kids on the bus this morning to school quite comfortably, which I can guaranfuckingtee isn't happening in the USA right now.

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It can happen here. My old high school. Not long after I got out of there, remember hearing about it on the radio while working at a tree nursery just north west of Brampton. The shooter was the brother of one of my classmates. Too close for comfort.

https://lornajmccluskey.wordpress.co...bcss-shooting/

Does FOX ever criticize cops? Seems like firings coming.

That teacher who propped open that school door...hate to be that person.

Total collapse of procedures that day.

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Originally Posted by Ted Striker

As of this moment, k-12 students in the United States are more likely to be fatally shot than on-duty police officers.

2022 number of dead cops: 20
2022 number of dead kids: 24

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Keeping them even safer than school children is how you know the training is working.

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Originally Posted by cinnepa

Wow, what a shitshow of a press conference going on now

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and you know the real shitshow is behind the scenes as they all try to find a lie to cover their own asses

Jfc sitting there as multiple 911 calls come from inside the school

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Originally Posted by MakersTeleMark

I'd need to consult with your last partner to OK that. What's his name and address?

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You're smart enough to know that's a fucked up thing to say, knock that shit off. Be a homophobe all you want in your trailer, but not here.

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Originally Posted by Ted Striker

As of this moment, k-12 students in the United States are more likely to be fatally shot than on-duty police officers.

2022 number of dead cops: 20
2022 number of dead kids: 24

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More likely? Not so.

There are 50 million students and 700K police officers, so a PO is 60x more likely to be shot.

Not that any of these deaths are OK

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If we find out the classroom door was designed to keep a shooter out it speaks to the defensive problem of objects that protect children can also protect shooters.

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Originally Posted by Summit

More likely? Not so.

There are 50 million students and 700K police officers, so a PO is 60x more likely to be shot.

Not that any of these deaths are OK

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Do we need to point out the huge variable for you? Going to school isn't supposed to be a dangerous activity.

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Originally Posted by cinnepa

Does FOX ever criticize cops? Seems like firings coming.

That teacher who propped open that school door...hate to be that person.

Total collapse of procedures that day.

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Apparently Tucker was actually pretty critical of them last night. Article commenting on him showed up in my newsfeed, but I can’t find it any more.

You know you’ve fucked up as a cop when you’ve lost guys like Tucker.

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Do we need to point out the huge variable for you? Going to school isn't supposed to be a dangerous activity.

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What color is the sky?

Going to school should be vastly less risky than being a cop. And it is. I don't have in mind an appropriate ratio.

Both those numbers are ideally zero shot.

Police lied about the timeline. Multiple times. And about shooter having body armor. And about him being barricaded.

They lied about the armed resource officer's whereabouts.

They detained parents, while individual cops went in and got their own kids out. In doing so, one cop got another child killed via his incompetence.

Cops lying is a feature, not a bug, and they'll keep massaging the message until they arrive at one the media will accept.

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Originally Posted by Ted Striker

Police lied about the timeline. Multiple times. And about shooter having body armor. And about him being barricaded.

They lied about the armed resource officer's whereabouts.

They detained parents, while individual cops went in and got their own kids out. In doing so, one cop got another child killed via his incompetence.

Cops lying is a feature, not a bug, and they'll keep massaging the message until they arrive at one the media will accept.

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Holy shit!

That's unbelievable... almost...

Infuriating :cussing:

Yup. It's a game of cat and mouse to see what they can get away with and what is provable. Resources being spent managing the fuck-ups and the messaging about the fuck-ups is bigly.