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Douched!
With all the other HL models being teased (yes - damn you Marshall!) in the other HL threads, I’m giving this thread a bump as just ordered some FR102ST last week which will go nice with my 99AM and my match my old man Hexcel Splittails from back in the day. Just another shout out to Marshall for repeated questions (mostly idiot questions) and my several months of sitting on the fence. So stoked to add those to HL collection and everyone should just listened to pluffenmeister’s advice of “If there is one that appeals or looks like a ski they already like: just buy it blind.”
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Originally Posted by GiantManta
Ok, HL... you finally got me. 120 FR's on order. I've been looking for that chop crushing pow ski. I was considering the Black Ops and Chipotle Banana for this spot, but I think the HL project is damned cool.
Will 115 Pivot brakes stretch to fit? Raw or goldz. Decisions, decisions.
Can confirm the 115 fits. I would actually say RAW or Sender!Quote:
Originally Posted by SnowMachine
Pondering a pair of FRST120s for a do it all ski for Japan. For folks that are skinning with them how are you dealing with attaching skins w the swallow tail?
With Pomoca skins you can put the tail through and just cinch up the plastic piece through the swallow tail, so it’s not really “clipped” on. This has worked well for me on short tours with a Duke PT setup. I also intend to use this setup in Japan next year and think it will be pretty perfect!Quote:
Originally Posted by rudy
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I've got the a set of Jones Quick Tension Pomoca clips aside for my BC120s. Did not get the opportunity to mount them last season, but a quick check made them seem like a great fit.
Douche thy box!Quote:
Originally Posted by rudy
But here my take on the skins...
(1) go for a skin with a rubber trail strap (BD G3 Pomoca), avoid non-stretch tail strap (Montana colltex, contour)
(2) the G3 twin tip clip works awesome and fits the Pomoca and BC no problem... but my favorite is to use the standard BD tail clip into the swallwtail. It works with the G3 no problem in the hole, and I just punched a hole in my pomocas for the BD clips. Its bomber, neve comes off, but super easy to release the skin at transition. The Jones QT clip is great on jones too, but harder to track down (at least last spring when I was looking)
Box cleansed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marshal Olson
Hmmmm.
No 192 left?
I'm off my personal hook....phew. Hopefully, like the old L120s people will ditch the longer lengths so I could pick some up ch33p.
Dude! There are 2 pair of 193cm Carbon 120 Swallowtails left for the season... Just saying!
https://heritagelabskis.com/products/bc120
Did you get a chance to fondle my (187cm) pair in the shop when you came through town? I may not have gotten them yet, but if you liked your c113s you'll love these.Quote:
Originally Posted by Buster Highmen
damn youQuote:
Originally Posted by Marshal Olson
I’ve tried a lot of skis (Gaijin don’t comment).
Ya HL skis cost more but I got more joy out of the 10 days I skied the FR 110 than any other ski I’ve been on in the last 10 years. They are that good.
I’m expecting the R120 Swallowtail to be the same.
Do it. Resistance is futile.
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You will be pleased.Quote:
Originally Posted by kc_7777
R120ST rules.
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Originally Posted by kc_7777
First pair of skis that I've paid retail for in years. I'm not planning to get rid of them anytime soon. I'd already have the FR 110, but they sold out before I got my shit together. Next were the FL105. Marshall talked me out of them (I think I miscomunicated my goals on that one). Anyway, probably won't be my last HL's. I'm debating the AM100 right now, also.Quote:
Originally Posted by kc_7777
I'm a ski whore, but not nearly on your level. :D
I just ordered the 187 FR120ST as my first HL ski, I was leaning towards the FR110 and missed out on them while I thought about it.
Solid choice. They'll be a lot floatier.Quote:
Originally Posted by jmills
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Whatever that ski on the left is (FR120?), I'm gonna need it in my life.
FR left R right!Quote:
Originally Posted by forumskier
I can't wait to get my hands on the FR. The rocker profile looks insane. I'm hoping it's the go-to, all things soft, resort ski!
Can't wait to get my bc's!
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Got an email from Marshal saying fall skis are shipping soon.
Can’t wait to see my new R120’s!
Recommended on the 180 R120 is -7.5cm (+/- 1cm). I’m prolly going -7cm. I’m thinking solid black STH16’s.
KC
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The black would look awesome. As a pivot whore myself I was thinking the sender colorway. However now thinking the blue steel would be an awesome contrast!Quote:
Originally Posted by kc_7777
I have both raw 115mm Pivot 15’s and black 130mm STH 16’s in the garage……both would look good….Quote:
Originally Posted by K1mJ0ngTr1ll
I’m leaning STH as that’s what I have on the FR110 and they feel f’ing perfect.
Wondering if it’s the diff in ramp angle on a short bsl of the STH vs Pivot 15?
I’ve been mounting my Pivot 15s without the 5mm toe shim? Which I’ve lost so I may check with the local shop for some?
Do your HL skis mounted with Pivot’s use the 5mm toe shim/spacer?
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Originally Posted by kc_7777
What piece is that?
Not sure which shims you're thinking of but a 5mm toe shim on pivots would put you in a negative delta. I think it would feel pretty odd.Quote:
Originally Posted by kc_7777
pre-GW / alpine only Pivots came with the option of be run with or without a shim up front. Without for the more traditional skiers out there, with for the same stance as the current GW version.
Hmmm ….i think all my raw Pivots are the GW version. So maybe that’s why I didn’t get the 5mm shims with them. Thanks!Quote:
Originally Posted by kid-kapow
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Rocker shot of Rs with Super Goats. I didn't strap in the middle cause that's how I store them but you can see it's a lot smoother transition comparatively with your imagination.
Any folks have the BC110 and the BC 120? Love my 120 - juggling between the BC100 or 110 as well. 100 makes sense for less overlap but 110 makes sense for more versatility as a single travel ski. Folks feel that the 110 and 120 are too similar to warrant both?
Also curious about people's thoughts and experiences on the BC110 and BC120. Really between these two skis and the Deathwish Tours. I know the DWTs and 110s would be the more versatile skis but the 120 just speaks to my heart
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I can speak to the DWT and 120 a bit as I had a DWT for a bit. It you’re talking soft snow, 120 no question. The rocker profile plus slightly more rearward mount (even if you mount it +1 or 2) just floats better. It can slarve or make long arcing turns with ease.Quote:
Originally Posted by rigbone
DWT is maybe a bit more pivoty due to the mount point, will give you a better edge on firm snow, but in anything soft I preferred the 120 by far. Honestly I’d say all of this likely is true for a DWT and BC110 comparison, just with a bit less of a noticeable difference in float (but still present).
A smidge lighter than my 196 bodes. Sick dude.
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Ain't that 200g over the spec?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sylvan
Here’s my Heritage Lab R120 Swallowtails mounted with black STH 16’s. My 180 R120 ST’s are mounted at 83cm straight pull from tail (179.5cm straight pull ski) which puts me at -6.75cm. About 1cm further back than my FR110’s which are -5.8cm.
I now own 3 pairs of Heritage Lab skis (the HB122, R120, FR110) and with AM100’s on the way I think that will be the perfect 4-ski inbounds quiver.
I’ve kinda stopped looking at other skis…..Marshal you have freed up many hours a week for me.
The R120 ST’s are so sweet lookin’ in person!
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The 193 is 200-250g heavier than the 187s. I bumped the core up a bit on the 193, as a "normal" step up in size is more like 100-125g +/-.Quote:
Originally Posted by Westcoaster
IMO they are PUUUURRRFECT.
I have yet to hear from any HL skiers thus far thinking the Freeride build is heavy/sluggish on snow, but if that feedback is out there, please let me know. Cheers!