How do you carry your shit?

I have one of those TPU tubes, found a small ziplock that it fits in and then cut off a section of tube and have the whole thing slid into there and then have a strap/cover thing holding it into the bottom of the frame with a couple of co2s.

Strap is made by acepac. previously i had stuff on the saddle rails with a backcountry research strap.

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I just have to remember to have a multitool and co2 chuck and tire lever on me somewhere. I also carry a plug kit and sometimes some glueless patches that I've been able to stick on the inside of the tire with cuts that wouldn't seal and then continue on riding tubeless.

Usually I'm just sticking stuff in pockets. Cargo liner bibs plus shorts plus maybe a road jersey gives you a lot of carrying space. Or a hip pack. I did just get a mini frame bag I thought was going to fit in the front part of the hei hei's triangle but it's not quite the right shape. Maybe I need to learn how to sew or have something custom made. It's a big frame so there's room there to have a little storage plus still fit two bottles.

That’s the approach that left me with a hole in my tube so looking to improve.

Loose vacuum seal seems like a good option will try that since it’s easy.

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Originally Posted by MiddleOfNight

I just roll it up super tight and rawdog it under the saddle with a ski strap, along w Co2 and tire wrench. I happened across someone in need last fall, tube was still in fine shape.

Admittedly, Murphy seems to be lurking.

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use a coffee bag after you takeout the beans

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Originally Posted by MiddleOfNight

I just roll it up super tight and rawdog it under the saddle with a ski strap, along w Co2 and tire wrench. I happened across someone in need last fall, tube was still in fine shape.

Admittedly, Murphy seems to be lurking.

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Clearly it’s working for you, but for what it’s worth I’ve had a few friends end up on sad rides after finding their under-saddle spare tube had a hole.

Vacuum sealing a spare tube is a great idea!

I wonder if you just used two ziplocks or sandwich bags around it to create a slip layer if that would be enough to keep it from wearing out?

Also have to think about UV degradation as well if it’s exposed to sunlight for any length of time. Not sure how the tubes react to that.

Long ride or short, I always use the same Camelbak backpack to keep things simple. When I used to ride road, I would still use the Camelbak for consistency. Caught a lot of shit from the interwebz roadies for that, but what evs.

To follow up, I like nuun. and the others, but wish they would all stop being fizzy , find that really unrefreshing during exercise, but I’m sure there’s some quasi scientific reason to it. So much so I just buy the bulk stuff Gatorade, scratch, sometimes hammer.

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Originally Posted by MiddleOfNight

I just roll it up super tight and rawdog it under the saddle with a ski strap, along w Co2 and tire wrench. I happened across someone in need last fall, tube was still in fine shape.

Admittedly, Murphy seems to be lurking.

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Take an old inner tube and cut it on the inner center and use it as outer protection:

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You could spend more time, cut more pieces and glue up the ends and sides to make a 'cylinder'.

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Originally Posted by volklpowdermaniac

To follow up, I like nuun. and the others, but wish they would all stop being fizzy , find that really unrefreshing during exercise, but I’m sure there’s some quasi scientific reason to it. So much so I just buy the bulk stuff Gatorade, scratch, sometimes hammer.

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They are? I thought they stopped fizzing as soon as the tablets were done dissolving (and the slow-dissolve is the key to the tablets being so small--when you get the instant-dissolve packets, they seem much larger).

Might just be an artifact of me using it mostly as a recovery drink so it has sat there for a while by the time I drink it.

Roll your own bottle dropper.

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Originally Posted by Alpinord

Take an old inner tube and cut it on the inner center and use it as outer protection:

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This is all I can see when people show pictures of carrying all their stuff on their frame:

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Pump, CO2 or both?

I have used my pump maybe once in several years. I’ve always thought CO2 cartridges as wasteful, but can see the benefits. So now I’m looking into them.

How many tires can you fill per canister?

Regarding reliability, is it still a good idea to also pack a pump?


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Originally Posted by Alpinord

Pump, CO2 or both?

I have used my pump maybe once in several years. I’ve always thought CO2 cartridges as wasteful, but can see the benefits. So now I’m looking into them.

How many tires can you fill per canister?

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Depends.

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Regarding reliability, is it still a good idea to also pack a pump?

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Yes - because invariably the CO2 won't get the tire inflated enough.

I would only carry CO2 in a race where seconds count. Otherwise it's wasteful and only gives you one shot at getting the plug right. Further, 2 canisters are not even lighter than a light pump.

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Pump, CO2 or both?

I have used my pump maybe once in several years. I’ve always thought CO2 cartridges as wasteful, but can see the benefits. So now I’m looking into them.

How many tires can you fill per canister?

Regarding reliability, is it still a good idea to also pack a pump?


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Pump for longer rides where I 100% need to be able to get my tire re-inflated. I generally have a fanny pack or backpack of some sort for longer rides, so carrying the pump isn't a big deal. Often I'll have both a pump and CO2's for that sort of ride.

CO2 for shorter rides where I'm not riding with a pack. For me, the CO2 isn't so much about the speed. It's about the small form factor that fits in my pocket, and it's about being able to re-inflate a plugged tubeless tire. If your bead comes unseated, a mini pump isn't gonna re-seat it - you're stuck with putting a tube in. A CO2 will usually re-seat a tire bead without issue. But plugs and CO2's don't always work, so occasionally I'm stuck walking / riding the flat out (but it's a short ride, so that's not the end of the world).

CO2's are wasteful, but I use *maybe* one a year, so in the grand scheme of my personal wastefulness, it doesn't really register on the scale.

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Originally Posted by toast2266

Pump for longer rides where I 100% need to be able to get my tire re-inflated. I generally have a fanny pack or backpack of some sort for longer rides, so carrying the pump isn't a big deal. Often I'll have both a pump and CO2's for that sort of ride.

CO2 for shorter rides where I'm not riding with a pack. For me, the CO2 isn't so much about the speed. It's about the small form factor that fits in my pocket, and it's about being able to re-inflate a plugged tubeless tire. If your bead comes unseated, a mini pump isn't gonna re-seat it - you're stuck with putting a tube in. A CO2 will usually re-seat a tire bead without issue. But plugs and CO2's don't always work, so occasionally I'm stuck walking / riding the flat out (but it's a short ride, so that's not the end of the world).

CO2's are wasteful, but I use *maybe* one a year, so in the grand scheme of my personal wastefulness, it doesn't really register on the scale.

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That's generally how I was thinking, but all bases would be covered if you carried both. I'm messing with a pump/CO2/tube/tool box carrier concept to just go without having to think about it and change out what I bring. Simply dedicating a pump spot seems wise.

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Originally Posted by skaredshtles

This is all I can see when people show pictures of carrying all their stuff on their frame:

https://blog.consumerguide.com/wp-co...esizeImage.jpg

:D

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It's the GOTOS of bicycling.

I never understood why anyone would want to tape shit to their bike frame. Guessing it's part of current trendiness, like fanny packs, tall socks, goggles, or riding without gloves. Sometimes all those at once. Plus mandatory tailgate pad to scratch up your bike and truck, at the same time.

Best side load cage? I want to switch the access side of my bottle on my gnarvana and need a side load cage for access. This is for the under top tube mount so security is a priority.

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Best side load cage? I want to switch the access side of my bottle on my gnarvana and need a side load cage for access. This is for the under top tube mount so security is a priority.

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The Wolf Tooth Morse cage works really well there. It lets you shift it slightly downward to run a larger bottle, and you can periodically gently bend it up to get a tighter hold on your bottle. At the same time it's flexy enough that it's not hard to diagonally load it.

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Best side load cage? I want to switch the access side of my bottle on my gnarvana and need a side load cage for access. This is for the under top tube mount so security is a priority.

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I have a Specialized Zee Cage II. Never had a bottle loose, including riding bike park with it. Available left or right hand.

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I have a Specialized Zee Cage II. Never had a bottle loose, including riding bike park with it. Available left or right hand.

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Originally Posted by Alpinord

Pump, CO2 or both?

I have used my pump maybe once in several years. I’ve always thought CO2 cartridges as wasteful, but can see the benefits. So now I’m looking into them.

How many tires can you fill per canister?

Regarding reliability, is it still a good idea to also pack a pump?


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Pump always cause my tools are in there and I've been let down by CO2 enough times to know better, but basically always have CO2 also cause I'm lazy.

25 gram cartridges are ideal because a 16 gram doesn't fill a 29" tire enough. But, they've gotten hard to find cheap in bulk, so I've been running 16 gram and either carry a couple or top off the tire with the pump.

Definitely in the CO2 camp, as I'm lazy and more often then not when I get a flat it's during a lunch ride w/ a work meeting I need to be back for, kids to pickup somewhere/etc. I also find them far far easier to carry than a pump as I'm not into the GOTOS approach, other than spare tube under my saddle on bikes that don't have a hiding hole in the frame.

I've bought or split the 16g bulk ones and carry 2 or 3 at a time. Most of my rides are close enough that you're not going to die in the wilderness anyway, even if it would be a long walk/ride out on an insert.

As for side load cages, will 3rd the Spec Zee cage. I've also had good luck with the Lezyne ones as well, including racing those. Admittedly in both cases downtube, not under the top tube.

Went out for a quick <1hr morning loop w/ my buddy and did have to bring hip pack just to throw my BC Research toolbag into b/c I didn't have pocket liner bibs or enough pant pockets to carry it... All in the name of current MTB trendy fashion to climberevans point up-thread about jersey pockets. We were riding some really rough rocky trails at high speeds for his enduro training loop, so pretty sure you're not allowed to do that w/ a roadie jersey and baggies.

I've reduced to pump only because it always works, and more than once if needed. Used to carry one or the other, or both, but have been burned with just CO2. Both is unnecessary redundancy and takes up space and they weigh as much as my pump.

For racing obviously CO2 is must have but I don't really do that anymore and I'm not in as much of a hurry when I ride. Still roll with just CO2 n the roady.

I used to love the old 40g Innovations "Big Air" CO2. Good for two 26" tires and then some and weighs less than a 16g. Prolly fill two 29er tires to the pressure I run these days. They have a tendency to explode when left in your car in real hot temps though and I've actually had two packs destroyed! Shoulda learned the first time. Looks like you can still get them but buyer beware hahaha.

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I've reduced to pump only because it always works, and more than once if needed. Used to carry one or the other, or both, but have been burned with just CO2. Both is unnecessary redundancy and takes up space and they weigh as much as my pump.

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I've had CO2 failures. I've also had my pump that hadn't failed in 15 yrs...fail. Or simply not be able to push air through a clogged valve core. Of course those instances all seemed to happen when I didn't have the other method with me. So now I always carry both.

On my Spur I just put all tools, pump etc in my frame bag. Along with any snacks, extra layer etc. If I need to bring a bottle it can go in a feed bag on my handlebar. Phone can go in another one or in the frame bag.

For longer rides I'll wear a hip pack or hydration pack depending how much stuff I need to bring.

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really rough rocky trails at high speeds for his enduro training loop, so pretty sure you're not allowed to do that w/ a roadie jersey and baggies.

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This is perfect terrain for bibs and a tight jersey, but so is all other terrain. I will admit that putting pads on over my roadie kit feels weird, so I just don't wear pads.

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Originally Posted by skaredshtles

This is all I can see when people show pictures of carrying all their stuff on their frame:

https://blog.consumerguide.com/wp-co...esizeImage.jpg

:D

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For side water bottle holder, my Planet Bike one works fine. Shown w/pump holder:

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Thanks to you ne'er do wells, I ordered an Osprey Savu 5 ($35) for the 'tweener' rides, XC tours, hiking, etc. vs bringing nothing other than a single water bottle and the Osprey Raptor 14 rides with hydration. The first thing I noticed was nowhere to carry another layer. Coincidentally, a buddy had ordered the same and said the same thing. One simple solution which might work on other packs too:

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So I am recently back into Mtn biking after a pretty long hiatus (last bike was an '02 bullit). Just bought a used YT Jeffsy and have been out on few rides. Why does no one wear a camelback anymore? Seems like a good idea to carry tools, pump, keys, water, etc. Not sure why I would want to strap a bunch of stuff to my frame when I can just put it all in a camelback? Was surprised to see most riders without one.

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So I am recently back into Mtn biking after a pretty long hiatus (last bike was an '02 bullit). Just bought a used YT Jeffsy and have been out on few rides. Why does no one wear a camelback anymore? Seems like a good idea to carry tools, pump, keys, water, etc. Not sure why I would want to strap a bunch of stuff to my frame when I can just put it all in a camelback? Was surprised to see most riders without one.

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Because they're hot, they bounce around, and for most of the riding I do, I don't need the amount of carrying capacity that a backpack offers.

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So I am recently back into Mtn biking after a pretty long hiatus (last bike was an '02 bullit). Just bought a used YT Jeffsy and have been out on few rides. Why does no one wear a camelback anymore? Seems like a good idea to carry tools, pump, keys, water, etc. Not sure why I would want to strap a bunch of stuff to my frame when I can just put it all in a camelback? Was surprised to see most riders without one.

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I'm equally befuddled by this. When I first got back into MTB in the mid late 00s, it was all camelbacks in order to get crap off the bike and keep your bottles away from mud and muck and such. Also kept clutter and weight off the bike. It kid of amazes me people will pay an extra $2k to go from Al to Carbon and drop 2 lbs , and the put 10 lbs of crap on their frame . ( It was also what separated us from road weenies :) )

I'm not sure when the style changes for the cool kids.


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Because they're hot, they bounce around, and for most of the riding I do, I don't need the amount of carrying capacity that a backpack offers.

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Yeah, this is why. So much more comfortable/cooler not having a pack. If I’m going to be carrying the weight anyway, I’d rather it be securely fixed to the bike rather than bouncing around on my person.

I have a Camelback (well, Osprey pack) but I’m only going to use it when I need the extra carrying capacity.

(Mud isn’t an issue I have to consider, fortunately.)

I like my camelback for the spine cushion it provides when I inevitable go OTB ass over tea kettle. The swear factor has never bothered me and i like having all the gear w some room for a riding jacket if needed

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So I am recently back into Mtn biking after a pretty long hiatus (last bike was an '02 bullit). Just bought a used YT Jeffsy and have been out on few rides. Why does no one wear a camelback anymore? Seems like a good idea to carry tools, pump, keys, water, etc. Not sure why I would want to strap a bunch of stuff to my frame when I can just put it all in a camelback? Was surprised to see most riders without one.

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As a mountain biker it's important to spend a lot of your free time agonizing and fussing over every piece of gear for maximum performance. Suspension, undies, socks, tread wear, how to carry a wallet or keys or phone, perfect sunglass tint, reach of your brakes, how much electrolyte in your water - the list is endless, especially with new improved gear coming out constantly. it is important to consume and help with bike industry feed their starving kids and also afford to design new nonsensical standards we all need to read at length on line to understand. The bike industry needs us - don't let them down with a purchase of a simple camelback they introduced decades ago, please.

Back sweat.

We're in a monsoon pattern (early) and I've started tieing my jacket to my handlebars. Roll up the body, wrap the sleeves around the bars a few times and tie it off (double overhand). Hasn't come off yet. Little fiddly to remove and replace but overall I dig.

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It's the GOTOS of bicycling.

I never understood why anyone would want to tape shit to their bike frame. Guessing it's part of current trendiness, like fanny packs, tall socks, goggles, or riding without gloves. Sometimes all those at once. Plus mandatory tailgate pad to scratch up your bike and truck, at the same time.

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For me, it's really nice for any ride less than two hours or so to not wear a pack.

Longer than that, or when the heat/humidity require more water (or winter to carry more layers, etc.) I've a Camelbak bum bag with bladder, and a larger Osprey pack.

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Originally Posted by scrublover

For me, it's really nice for any ride less than two hours or so to not wear a pack.

Longer than that, or when the heat/humidity require more water (or winter to carry more layers, etc.) I've a Camelbak bum bag with bladder, and a larger Osprey pack.

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This. It's like wearing a Camelback on a chair lift. If you really don't need the capacity or the bulk, why bring all kinds of extra crap? Mount the stuff or carry in your clothes what you need every ride. Add the lumbar or hydration backpack as the situation dictates without swapping the everyday stuff between packs.

Out of sight & out of mind, but always there..hopefully.:wink::

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This. It's like wearing a Camelback on a chair lift. If you really don't need the capacity or the bulk, why bring all kinds of extra crap? Mount the stuff or carry in your clothes what you need every ride. Add the lumbar or hydration backpack as the situation dictates without swapping the everyday stuff between packs.

Out of sight & out of mind, but always there..hopefully.:wink::

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I'm assuming you've thought of this but it may be worth taking all of the air out of your shock to verify that your rear wheel isn't going to contact your pump at bottom out.

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