These are very good. Buy them if you want a much better strap.Quote:
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These are very good. Buy them if you want a much better strap.Quote:
Originally Posted by CaliBrit
A shop guy told me a stiffer Quantum is coming. Apparently dalbello heard from a lot of shops that marketing a 100 stiffness (at best) boot as a ‘130’ was a fail. I liked the walk mode and fit but as I posted earlier they’re way too soft for this category.
My Transalps continue to ski well but I’m not a fan of the liner. It needs more thickness around the ankle/heel to get decent hold down while skinning. I also wish the front buckle was microadjust, and that the cable attachment was further back to improve heel hold while skinning.
Those appear to be cabrio boots. It’s a shame Scott puts the middle buckle on the cuff, it doesn’t really help to lock the heel down.Quote:
Originally Posted by concierge
I also have the Transalps Pro and I have the same complaints about the heel hold. It has a surprising wide heel for a medium volume boot. I’ve put J-bar foam padding on the outside of the stock liner but I’m considering swapping out for a Palau soon. Otherwise, I love the two-buckle boot configuration and its stiff enough to drive any touring ski. I’m looking for a different boot in the future.Quote:
Originally Posted by frorider
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The Evo gear preview mentioned a “new” Quantum line, but I hadn’t heard anything else about it. I can’t seem to find next years Dalbello catalog online, anyone have anymore info?Quote:
Originally Posted by frorider
I love the lower shell fit of the quantum. It’s the lowest volume boot on the market. But literally everything else about the boot is complete crap. Go with the lower shell and either cabrio or modified 3/4 buckle upper shell. Would be game changer of a boot. But I’m sure they’ll release a 100+ last shit burger
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After having these for a season I noticed cracking at the based of the U-cut out and I will have to submit them for warranty. I’m not sure what caused this. The Pebax renew plastic? The z-buckle closure on a thick plastic? Buyers beware. It’s a shame because I can’t think of another boot in the lean beef category that is this burly, has two buckles, and walks this well (and fits my feet, with some work).
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so this boot would be a good replacement for my fisher traverse. almost same bsl. i have wide feet so this could be good for me. guess i need it widened anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by grinch
the guy rants about the inboot alot. so has anybody some info and what to replace? i guess a intuition pro tour.... tour wrap
anybody some info`
The way i understood it was that it was an average slightly narrow volume in the heel and instep with a extra wide toe box. Im ok with extra volume around my toes as long as the heel pocket isnt a swimming hole. I like the buckle configuration and the sound of the carbon spine in the cuffQuote:
Originally Posted by twat
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i jumped in the reps technica peak in the parking lot last year... the prerelease version... and did not like the heel.Quote:
Originally Posted by grinch
always hate when i start diving deeper in a certain product... but will be a upgrade for my traverse for sure.
The heel is quite high volume in my opinion as well. I took my Intuitions from my Zeros Gs and put them in some of these and my heel and ankle were swimming in them.Quote:
Originally Posted by grinch
Another boot ive been looking at. Pricey and no deals so far though. I guess tge heel was too big?Quote:
Originally Posted by twat
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Damn! Thats no good. Everyday i miss my old tlt6 more and more. I had to punch the forefoot fairly agressive but it was like a glove after that. With t-nutted double tongues they skied quite well . Something like that in the 1000-1100g range is where my search is. What are you looking to get?Quote:
Originally Posted by wilcox510
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I bought this boot but won’t be able to test them out until next weekend. Fit wise it doesn’t feel too wide and the shell is short for my mondo size. I may have to punch out a little. I have thin ankles medium instep and slightly wider toe box. atomic XTD fits me best but I hate the four buckle gripwalk and don’t need a heavy boot. I will follow up on a review soon.Quote:
Originally Posted by twat
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Yes the heel was to big for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by grinch
I'd be interested in hearing how they work out, xtd was bad on me but had a slight bit of extra volume in the instep and heelQuote:
Originally Posted by abcdethan
Cheers, thanksQuote:
Originally Posted by twat
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I really love my Skorpius as a TLT6 replacement. I needed substantial width punches in the TLT but none in the Skorpius. With a tourwrap it’s an awesome combo.Quote:
Originally Posted by grinch
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The skorpius is probably the best for me as well. We've had the same boots and work done to them between the tlt's and the lupos. Thanks for reminding me. Im easily distracted looking at others that may be on saleQuote:
Originally Posted by riff
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I’ve come to accept the fact that unfortunately there is nothing else, that I’m aware of, that is nearly as low volume in the heel and ankle area as the Zero G in this category. It seems there’s nothing coming out next year either. If you want to drop down in weight and and stiffness the Skorpius might work. It does seem to be pretty low volume.
I tried the Skorpius CR2, I think they blew it by switching to boa. Boa might work ok on a boot without a full shell (F1 LT or the MTN Summit) but it doesn’t seem to do hardly anything on a full shell boot like this. I have friends with the old version who really like the lower buckle, not sure why they got rid of it, they should have just fixed the tongue breakage issue but kept the buckle.
But the Skorpius is still a little less boot than I want. I need more boot to make up for my lack of skill…
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Originally Posted by grinch
Backland XTD seems promising, same fit as Hawx supposedly. My skinny ankles like those for an inbounds boot.Quote:
Originally Posted by wilcox510
Same fit as the Hawx Prime, not Ultra. So medium to higher volume fit unfortunatelyQuote:
Originally Posted by V.R.P
Backland XTD fits heels and insteps approx the same as Hawx Ultra but has a wider toeboxQuote:
Originally Posted by V.R.P
Interesting, you’ve been in it? That’s better than what they’ve been saying, which is that it’s based off the Prime last. Did you actually ski it or just try it on?Quote:
Originally Posted by LeeLau
The first gen Skorpius is the closest I have been able to get. Its so much better than everything else I bought a backup pair when they announced the switch to boa. It is actually a pretty low volume boot with a very thin liner, so if you put an intuition or similar in there it will do well with a low volume foot. The Pierre Gignoux boots fit amazing but super expensive, super light, and have questionable tech fittings.Quote:
Originally Posted by grinch
I've skied both. 4 days in 26.5 Ultra XTD with Boa and 6 days in the 26.5 Backland XTD so far.Quote:
Originally Posted by wilcox510
Elected to test the Backland...I feel the toebox/forefoot of Backland is roomier but the heel hold/instep felt the same as an Ultra last
Definitely. La Sportiva just hooked me up with some parts for my frontline pair after I broke a cable hook on the forefoot; certainly a quicker fix than replacing the boa on F1LT’s….Quote:
Originally Posted by Benneke10
I’m totally happy with them, two seasons in. With the spare pair I’ve got 6-8 years of good boots.
I have a hoji 130 and it fit really well right out of the box apart from one of the indents for the ankle being a touch too low. One quick heat punch to make that indent extend a slight bit higher and theyre amazing. Ski and walk like a champ and quick change overs. I can ski them on the hill with no problem as well with a tour wrap liner. Favourite boot by a long shot so far. Im looking for somethong lighter to compliment that boot. Its a high bar to reach before i get out of the hoji thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by wilcox510
I wonder if anyone just ditched the boa and bolted on a traditional buckle and ladder on the new skorpiusQuote:
Originally Posted by Benneke10
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How does the XTD compare to the Zero G Pro Tour in heel/ankle fit and performance?Quote:
Originally Posted by LeeLau
Wilcox. Do you mean the Backland or HawX?Quote:
Originally Posted by wilcox510
Any chance you could expand on heel fit? I'm in an OG Ultra XTD w/ Pro Tours and tried a pair of Backland Pros recently. Felt super comfy but Backlands couldn't secure my heel with any tightening strategy.Quote:
Originally Posted by LeeLau
Really want a better walking boot than the Ultra XTD, but at 1350g per boot (27.5) as currently configured it's not a weight pig, just a clunky walker.
Backland XTDQuote:
Originally Posted by LeeLau
Very general observations on toebox, instep, heel hold from most roomy to least roomy comparing the boots i currently have.
All stock liners (caveat I usually replace with Intuitions as stock pack out)
All in 26 except for Scarpa F1 in 27
Hawx XTD is both v1 (2018) and v2 (2023) with Boa which I tried but didn't own.
Also have Hoji Tour but not enough time yet to try out
Toebox
- Backland XTD
- Scarpa F1
- ZeroG Tour Pro
- Hawx XTD
Instep
- Backland XTD & F1 tied
- ZGTP
- Hawx
Heel hold
- Backland XTD
- Hawx XTD
- ZGTP & F1 tied
Doebedoe. Re your specific question on Backland XTD the stock Mimic liner had more space then the Intuition liners I've also been running (medium vol ProTours). However I would agree the Backland XTD has a wee bit more heel room than the Hawx XTD
Touring. Backland is better as it has more ROM. Shows up more on flat skinning as opposed to uphills but its thereQuote:
Originally Posted by wilcox510
Skiing. ZGTP is better but that shows up more on hardpack or firm where ZGTP is more progressive as opposed to Backland which reminds me of Vulcan brick wall abruptness. Having said that this aspect doesn't manifest in soft snow
Lee, I get the feeling you are the kind of skier who drives their boots. I'm curious if your Backland XTDs develop any cuff pivot slop. It only took a couple long ski days, probably <5, for my cuff pivots to get loose in my Backland Carbons. I'm 6'1", 175 lbs without a pack....
I drive them at the cuff but am light so even with a pack (75kgs body weight) don't wear stuff out that much so take that fwiw.Quote:
Originally Posted by kamtron
Will check back and maybe do a separate Hawx XTD v2 and Backland XTD thread otherwise this all gets lost in the shuffle.
For data it took me
- 200+ days to get cuff pivot slop in Vulcan
- 150+ days to get cuff pivot slop in Tecnica ZeroG Tour Pro
Ola,
Went to a local shop and was shocked. It is sale and their touringboot stock is almost complete. He sad they did not sell this year no snow and everybody bought during the pandemic new gear.
Market was saturated.
s/lab mtn summit in my size was missing.
But i slipped into the summit pro. Fit is ok for me +/- some work&intuition
Forward flex was ok. Also general performance in the shop.
I did not like the negative travel in the cuff when in ski mode.
Is the slab summit better in the cuff?
So how is the boot?Quote:
Originally Posted by abcdethan
On the uphill its is amazing. I never felt like I was maxing I out on ROM. I think it walks just as well the Atomic Backland Carbon. I took it out on a 5k tour with about 3 miles of traversing. Did some booting in crampons, The heel pocket is snug, which I’ve been looking for in a touring boot. On the downhill, it is very stiff and doesn’t have a progressive flex IMO. I had the boot really ratcheted down, and I later played with keeping the top velcro strap more loose. The boa did a good job of locking down the heel. I skied about 1k of firm windboard, some heavy pow and lots of variable snow. At the end of the day, my feet had hot spots especially in the left 5th metatarsal base on my left foot, that left me limping. So I’ll have to go to a bootfitter to get it figured out. I think replacing the stock liner will make it more comfortable. I had it set for a +16.5 forward lean which may have been too much. In short, its not quite dialed in out of the box, but it has potential.Quote:
Originally Posted by twat
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Thanks for that.
Looks like there may be a new Dalbello boot on the horizon- https://www.instagram.com/p/Cqspa7aojqz/
Not sure if that's been seen before or if I'm just misidentifying it.