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Nothing better for cottonmouth to me than an iced cold beer.... so no more weeds either.. Not a big deal being around folks smoking and drinking some for a little while... but, an hour or so then I'm out of there..Quote:
Originally Posted by TheSilverSurfer
Made me look it up. Day 258 here !Quote:
Originally Posted by TNKen
I still can’t count
Yeah, I don't mind being around it when it's not the focus of whatever is going on.Quote:
Originally Posted by SumJongGuy
Struggle has been real wanting to get high for the last month or so. Went to a meeting on Zoom for the first time ever. That helped.
Clarify - first zoom meeting not first meeting
It is very sad to see how people relate to the problem of alcoholism and why it has become like some kind of joke for them. It's a pity that many people simply do not understand the state that people struggling with alcohol addiction go through. To overcome this disease, they need to overcome themselves and their desires, and this is not so easy. After all, in order to help such people, various online sober community and hospitals are being created for the treatment of such addictions. I hope that people will start to treat this problem with understanding and will support people who have it. Peace to all!
Awesome. I think she has an app that keeps track.Quote:
Originally Posted by jmedslc
Interesting read.Quote:
Originally Posted by Timberridge
As long as folks aren't driving or forcing pledges to drink to their deaths, some (maybe even a lot) of recreational heavy drinking in your twenties seems fine. It's folks like me who don't grow out of that and actually get worse that are sad and pathetic. Nothing more lame than the drunk old folks at the bar or party. Don't be that person.. and if the alternative to sobriety is just staying home all the time to get blasted almost every night... definitely time to just give it up.
Leave that to the youngsters.
And "normal drinkers"? What the hell is that? Drinking one or two drinks and not wanting a third or even not finishing the second one? Who does that??? Hahaha.
I just hit 3 weeks without a drink. This time around.
2 zoom meetings a week. Sometimes I find them useful. Sometimes not
Went to the surgeon yesterday to go over results from testing in October
I have Esophagus- achalasia without contractility (type 1)
He wants to operate. Sayin it’s just going to get worse
Guess I’m going under the knife so I can eat food and drink stuff
Good luck to all in the struggle. There are allot of us
That pretty accurately describes my drinking, with a very occasional binge night thrown into the mix. "Everything in moderation, including moderation."Quote:
Originally Posted by SumJongGuy
Vibes to people who struggle with substance abuse. I know many.
All I want tonight is to pop a klonopin. 9.5/10 on edge and it’s very uncomfortable.
If I had any right now I’d have caved.
And I have issues with that fact.
4,303 days here, but hell, whose counting…:FIREdevil
@buzzworthy
I had to Google klonopin.
Vibes.
The stressors are always there
Me? Once or twice a year i will get pretty drunk, it doesn't take much but then I will have no desire to drink more than one or two for a long while after.Quote:
Originally Posted by SumJongGuy
Never crave a drink.
I have other vices. Everyone has their kryptonite
fknaQuote:
Originally Posted by rideit
I think half the battle is keeping vices out of immediate reach. It meant admitting that I have a problem and doing something about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Buzzworthy
The week of Christmas was three years of no controlled substances. Best of luck to anyone in the thick of it.
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Originally Posted by yeahman
My mom was a normal drinker. Dad's side of the family is where I got it without a doubt.Quote:
Originally Posted by skiskiskiskiski
Started the annual sugar detox today, which obviously includes no booze…..I am already dreading this evening, as I habitually knock back a couple while cooking…..Any tips from the collective? I’ve done this annually for the last three years, but this year feels……..different.
Sounds familiar. Feels how different?Quote:
Originally Posted by seano732
If you start getting the shakes and fine motor control goes. - your detoxing. If true I might be able to point you in the right direction.
Other than that. Will power. Either it’s silly to drink when you don’t want to. Or. This is a problem I don’t want to drink but I’m going to anyway. - Alcoholic.
The first 2 weeks is the hardest and requires willpower. After that it’s just a decision you have made and much easier to stick to.Quote:
Originally Posted by seano732
I just kept telling myself that I’m a non-drinker now. It became very apparent that I have total control of what I put to my lips and ingest.
cayenne, in your herbal tea, sparkling water.
If your past a point. - they give you lithium and other things to keep you on an even keel for the two or three days it takes to get through the wallQuote:
Originally Posted by senior researcher
Severe DTs can be fatal.. Don't ask me how I know.. Anyone who's drinking a LOT daily for years should go full hospital detox.. Jerry Garcia died in detox He was also hooked on heroin but DTs are DTs.. They can definitely be fatal if extreme.Quote:
Originally Posted by MTT
Busch NA is pretty tasty. If someone poured it into a glass and told you it was PBR you'd never notice. Otherwise, find a seltzer you like.Quote:
Originally Posted by seano732
FYI almost all NA beers actually have .5% ABV and will still trigger the phenomenon of craving making you just want real beers even more.
They contain "up to" 0.5% as that's the legal limit, but that still means you'd have to drink 10+ to get one normal beer's worth of alcohol. I wouldn't recommend NA beer to an alcoholic who's in recovery, but seano isn't that AFAIK.
Yes, if you are having cravings they will only make your cravings worse. You won't feel a buzz but even drinking one your brain will recognize that there is even a minute amount of alcohol and make you want more ASAP.
So many potential/in denial alcoholics try the NA beer thing and will just eventually drink real booze.
THIS. Alcoholics aren't really all in for the taste.. It's the feelings that taste can evoke. Taste is definitely a trigger for an alcoholic. especially if there's no or little alcohol in the FIRST one.. At least that's been my experience.. and countless other drunks I know.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dantheman
Apple cider vinegar, helps me with the non quince able thirsts. Dry Mouthth. insulin imbalance. I am not sober. Lost 50#+ in the last six months. Prison chain gang fitness routine is Gold. I hope MTT"s Mom reloads my Debit card!
Still a asshole with out the booze, but my knees are 20 years younger.
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I’m doing pretty good today. Thanks for asking
I’m in that 30 days range - Easy for me.
Hoping I feel the same a year from now as I do today
Seano.. distraction is huge for me. Can you identify triggers when you used to / are likely to drink? Try to, and then think of something else to occupy your time during them. They say cravings are actually very short, if you can get past each one, you're good to go.
(good in theory, lol.)
I'm on day 5 sober. Again... Hoping for the best this time.
Not to be an ass but give this a look. Pick an online meeting connect with zoom and listen in. You never know.Quote:
Originally Posted by JayPowHound
Some make me want to drink. Sometimes you hear someone on the other side of world describing you. Exactly.
Anyway. It’s nice to have tools
https://aa-intergroup.org/meetings
As for alternate beverages, I drink hoplark hop water, fizzy waters and various kombuchas and add lime juice to plain topo Chico bottles. These are mostly zero calorie items. There are a number of other hop beverages coming on the market and I like to try those as well. Cold fizzy hoppy really hits the spot when I used to chug a beer.
One thing I don’t like to drink a bunch of is NA beers. They’ve still got 80+ calories each and I’ve enjoyed the big reduction in sugar and carbs that sobriety brings.
I’m still in shock that I was crushing 6 or more 9% DIPA per day plus a good volume of tequila. So glad that’s in the past!!
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Originally Posted by JayPowHound
That's definitely useful... but it's easier to find a good sponsor at in person meetings. Crapshoot because some are masks only and some are no mask required. But, 90 meetings in 90 days. temporary sponsor ASAP, regular sponsor within a month are what old timers recommend.Quote:
Originally Posted by MTT
Sounds daunting but just take it one day at a time.. If you miss a day or two or a hundred keep coming back..
Thanks to all of you for the tips, advice, etc......I white knuckled through yesterday, am doing the same today, but no serious W/D......I just miss my two-finger pour whilst cooking. One day at a time can I get an amen......
Doing lots of meetings and a 5 days a week IOP. Thanks fellas. I'm on it!
Unfortunately not my first time around (I started this thread) so I know what to do... just need to suck it up and follow through.
fuck AA
lol.
Dharma recovery is good shit, I've been getting more into it lately.
Hope you're well Mikey.
I spread my meeting time around...
Certainly not a big book thumper.