What's your strategy for skiing bumps/moguls?

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Originally Posted by ill-advised strategy

I promise I don’t say this just to be contrarian, but I expected that to be true, then when I lived there and had the combined pass I found I liked the rounder flowier lines at Snowbird better than the sharp walls I found at Alta.

I remember being really surprised about it.

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Other may disagree but also do not see a big difference between bumps either place.

Just wanted to point out that, yes, if you are fall line charging bumps can be real tiring, but if you ski them right you can also drop down the fall line nice and easy with barely any work at all, smooth, quick and clean. Just get your skis down the next bump nice and quick and set the edge. Let the next bump drive your knees back up. Like watah.

I seek them out end of day when I’m tired to get a break from screaming quads from g force turns chasing the fast fuckers I ski with.

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Originally Posted by Vt-Freeheel

Just don't do it like this

https://www.facebook.com/fisfreestyl...55947297756306

Click^

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Looks like Donny!

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Originally Posted by old goat

Back in the day the bumps were rounder, the powder was deeper, the women were freer, the music was louder, the drugs were trippier . . .

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Squirrel to Harkin; nice run in qualifying today, were you on shrooms or what?
ps microdosing highly recommended.

Straight skis, bent knees

Point it. More time in the air than on the snow. Quick speed checks on the tops.

Don't go there.

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Originally Posted by wickstad

More like Bob Mann there.

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That would be Bob Boogie Mann.

Sorry for the intrusion. I just wanna sell some boots and I've been told up my post count to do that. I do enjoy the blasts from the past and that Donny is funny.

The first time I recall seeing snowboarders riding moguls was a dual competition at Breckenridge - probably in 1987 or so. Those dudes ripped fall line with some wild style and were really impressive. I guess it's a lost art -- backwards progression.

Always see Hannah every weekend at Killington in the spring. Great result today

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Originally Posted by Vt-Freeheel

Always see Hannah every weekend at Killington in the spring. Great result today

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See, you just do that. I don’t know why we need six pages of this. :eek:

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Originally Posted by old goat

Back in the day the bumps were rounder, the powder was deeper, the women were freer, the music was louder, the drugs were trippier . . .

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Underrated comment :)

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Originally Posted by Eric1207

Sorry for the intrusion. I just wanna sell some boots and I've been told up my post count to do that. I do enjoy the blasts from the past and that Donny is funny.

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This is a mogul thread so you better make sure they’re fulltilts...:D

Point, shoot, let the skis run, and hang on, that is if you can ski bumps

Lift those tails up as you make your turns.

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Originally Posted by shera

It is fun to see into everyone's heads - how they perceive their bumps skiing with words. There's not too much time for the mental chatter while actually skiing bumps, is there?

I'm a sh!tty bump skier for the most part so I self coach a lot, just one thing at a time...I really like the cue to push those tips down on the other side of the bump (and lift the heels) - get a really good start on the next turn.

A simple drill I love is to perch on one bump and go straight into the back of the next one. Let the bump push your knees up and see how you really can control speed from that action alone. Magical...

Anyway, I like this thread, it's got so many good things to think about, got me excited to ski! :D

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just a series of fluid speed checks.
be water my friend

stay in control for 3-4 turns....2-3 too fast turns......1-2 out of control airing the tops to .....full stop.......repeat.......

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Originally Posted by Buster Highmen

I've degraded far more than the moguls have.

I still like getting after them in the right conditions.

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That's my situation. Powdery or Slushy... no hard bumps for me.

Any opinions on soft versus stiff boots in bumps? I've heard people claim soft is better, but how soft? I've been running the soft tongues on my dalbello kyptons for the past few years due to injuries, but finally switched them back to the regular stiffer ones (probably 120 or so, not race stiff). Been much better for me in bumps (felt like I was folding over in the softer ones a bit and then rocking back and forth too much to compensate).

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Originally Posted by singlecross

Stay out of the troughs and off the tops... keep your tips pointed downhill and carve the shoulders of the bumps. Think where would water flow if it was running down the hill and follow that line. Find a ramp and air into the next good line. Cat tracks for bigger air and tricks. Thanks Mary Jane.

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Water would follow the troughs, just saying!

First off I suck at bumps (and would rather ski trees, etc.). Mainly because I avoid them and don't force myself to ski them. I realize that's not always an option depending on where you ski and if there is recent snow.

But a drill that I was taught years ago for learning how to ski them was to pick a number (between 2 and 4, I "think"). Count it out in your head and force yourself to turn on that count. 1,2,3 turn, 123 turn...
Maybe that was just to make us keep the tips pointed down the fall line and not the best as more advanced skill. But it definitely helped me to limit my gaper traversing. I need to make myself do that again, because I'm still a bump gaper.

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Originally Posted by 3PinGrin

Water would follow the troughs, just saying!

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Not quite. Water would have momentum coming downhill, so would slosh up the backs/sides of bumps a bit, before continuing down. Think wave pool surfing??
https://youtu.be/s_rXQJoGc1U

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Grip it and Rip it.....until you hit that fucking snowboarder who's sitting on the back of bump where they can't be seen causing you to knock him out cold and you to blow out your ACL, and shatter your toe piece into 5 pieces.....yep sounds about right.

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Originally Posted by CnRzG

That's my situation. Powdery or Slushy... no hard bumps for me.

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They’re almost never soft where I live

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Originally Posted by himavan

Any opinions on soft versus stiff boots in bumps? I've heard people claim soft is better, but how soft? I've been running the soft tongues on my dalbello kyptons for the past few years due to injuries, but finally switched them back to the regular stiffer ones (probably 120 or so, not race stiff). Been much better for me in bumps (felt like I was folding over in the softer ones a bit and then rocking back and forth too much to compensate).

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Like anything, “soft” means different things to different people, so yeah I’d say soft boots are the norm, but there’s also too soft. Imo most mogul competitors are right where you are now, just shy of race stiff....which if you’re talking in high-performance ski circles is on the soft end of what people typically ski.

As long as your foot can tolerate it, there is no better mogul skiing boot than fulltilt...most comp bumpers are skiing a 8 or 10 tongue.

Go that way, really fast. If something gets in your way, turn.

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Originally Posted by himavan

soft versus stiff boots in bumps

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Just like with ski flex: if you have to ask, you're going to want soft.

Speaking of moguls, Mikael Kingsbury fractured some vertebrae and will be out 4 to 6 weeks.
Here's to wishing him a speedy recovery!

Lame.
I wonder who the next top dog will be

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Originally Posted by gimpy

stay in control for 3-4 turns....2-3 too fast turns......1-2 out of control airing the tops to .....full stop.......repeat.......

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Always fun to try to get the backseat to recline another notch

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Originally Posted by 2FUNKY

Shoulders square, eyes four turns down the hill, hands out front, shins firmly in tongue on boot. Absorb with knees/lower body, keep upper body quiet, pole plants are flicks of the wrist. Turns are on the front side of the mogul while pressing tips down the back side and slip the tails to control speed.

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There have been sporadic sightings of great advice in this thread from Goldmember and several others, but these three sentences from 2FUNKY summarize it best in my opinion.

There are several drills to help, but here are two that will get you started: (1) Practice short swing turns on moderate groomed slopes, not stacked long turns, but those with your body and arms facing the fall line as your skis turn underneath you. The key is to feel your big spring working through engaging your core. (2) Practice absorption and extension on a moderate bump run by skiing across the fall line with no turns at whatever angle works for you. Key elements are to keep a quiet upper body, to stay balanced, to concentrate on the extension part, and to keep your tips on the snow as much as possible, especially on the back side of the bump. Increase the angle as you gain proficiency.

In my limited experience, if you can do these things well, you will have an impossible time avoiding a breakthrough in the bumps.

Good luck!

cheers,
john

Until I can get back out on a hill, read this again.

Watch these again.

Then keeping those tips and images in mind go out and drill then ski some bumps.

Again. And again. And again.

Stay in the troughs then straight-line when I get close to the finish.

Progression. You have to find a low pitch long set to start and practice on before moving up...otherwise you will struggle for years. If your local hill doesn't have one, take a few 3 to 4 day long trips to winter park and mary jane and a beginner bump lesson there.

So much good stuff in this to watch and try to absorb...

https://youtu.be/vmPKZ2xFTGQ

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Originally Posted by sirbumpsalot

Progression. You have to find a low pitch long set to start and practice on before moving up...otherwise you will struggle for years. If your local hill doesn't have one, take a few 3 to 4 day long trips to winter park and mary jane and a beginner bump lesson there.

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In Quebec they call moguls "bosses", so this is a good strategy, just like a video game, as you work your way up to the final bosses.

btw that lady rips.

I try not to huck 70' and land on the up transition [emoji33]

https://youtu.be/7ynrQXjumhQ

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Originally Posted by jackstraw

I try not to huck 70' and land on the up transition [emoji33]

https://youtu.be/7ynrQXjumhQ

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Shoulda settled for the dinner roll

Watch this clip many times and try to ski like these dudes.

https://youtu.be/00R6xsFqDOA
Jump to the 2:45 mark for some ripping bump skiing from Greg Stumps Fist Full of Moguls.

72 years old. Wow

https://youtu.be/BRkzD0fVuPo

Whomever said take a lesson at Mary Jane had the correct answer

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