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Ha, those pedals are mine, with a shit-fucked ankle I need them to test-ride it. The bike was used (just the rims are new from a recent warranty by the previous owner), when you ask where I shop did you think it was all new??
I will say shopping on KSL.com in the fall is full of great used deals every year, especially if you ride a medium. Tons of options.
At that price I figured it must be used. Crazy good price. Thing is dialed. A looker too. Looks like it fits what you were afterQuote:
Originally Posted by muted
Damn that’s the bike I’ve been looking for a deal on. Too bad those sizes won’t work for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flyoverland Captive
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^^^ PM for details; if you contact the shop owner, he might be able to help you out.
@muted - nice find. I think you did really well for your budget.
@ grinch - bagtagley pretty much nailed it.
I'm old enough to have done all my racing on 26", and skeptical enough to know that the bike industry's m.o. is to literally reinvent the wheel for profit.
Physics is physics. The fact that people even bother arguing about wheel size is silly. Ride some bikes, and choose the one that suits your riding best.
Truth. I’ve nothing against any wheel size. Pick your poison for your use . Thought that “roll up article” was interesting.Quote:
Originally Posted by pisteoff
29ers are for people that dont know how to pick a line. Get a motorbike....trollingQuote:
Originally Posted by grinch
29” e-bike FTW!!![emoji6]Quote:
Originally Posted by Rip'nStick
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E bikescare the ultimate troll fest . They’re using 29 front and 27.5 rear a lot, I suspect for that exact purpose
#perfectrollup
^^^ moto wheels.
“Moaar moto is environmentally conscious”- davevt and mother natureQuote:
Originally Posted by pisteoff
Apart from DH racing you would choose to race a bike in xc or enduro with 26" wheels nowdays ... assuming you could find one ?Quote:
Originally Posted by pisteoff
^^^ I still own several. But I learned long ago that the more I raced the less I liked riding, and vice versa.
The only issue with keeping those bikes going is tires.
But my main bike is a kidwoo approved 27.5
yeah I still own a couple of 26ers but if the point of the whole racing thing is to arrive first ... which one is FASTER ?
yeah 26 is less and less supported with tires also I think the designs/geometry have been replaced with something better, can you even buy a new 26er nowdays?
I have been trying to sell my 26" Cannondale Prophet with no luck cuz nobody wants them so I zapped a for sale sign to the top tube and ride it to the bar
Where you going too fast?
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Did they french fry where they were supposed to pizza???Quote:
Originally Posted by grinch
Maybe some dirt pizza was the cause. Popped up today on my fb feed. The site is “IMB”. They were looking for a caption. No deets on what happened
Surprised that it's a Yeti.
:D
I wonder if its a turq frame they weigh 250grams less, buddy must have dropped it in some funny fashion
some good carnage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vu9IN8X0JOU
Out of curiosity from someone not in the MTB scene...is this a common occurrence with the new generation of carbon full suspension bikes?Quote:
Originally Posted by XXX-er
Not really any more common than it was with aluminum or steel frames.Quote:
Originally Posted by gretch6364
Which is to say - extremely rare.Quote:
Originally Posted by toast2266
Although I have no data on *any* type of frame-breakages...
But it's unusual.
There’s a healthy mix of carbon and aluminium in that vid. I’d say carbon can have issues with rock strikes or crashes into rocks more so than aluminium. I know of a few friends that are dealing with carbon frame breaks atm. Zero friends with aluminium frame issues.Quote:
Originally Posted by gretch6364
Carbon frame might be slightly stiffer but that doesn’t equate to much of an advantage. The big thing probably is that it’s a pound lighter on average but that’s an extra $1000. Chances are my bike will never be fully pimped out with gouch parts. For that $1000 I could save over a pound on gouch parts that I will probably have longer than I have the frame. Race face carbon cranks save almost a pound and they’re much cheaper to replace than a carbon frame or even crash replacement. Quality stem and bar, hope brakes, hope hubs(convertible to different hub spacing) are parts that will save weight , last longer , switch from bike to bike and if they break are cheaper to replace. That’s why I like lb carbon rims. 2 year warrantee then crash replacement is something I can afford to replace . I might not be able to afford a crash replacement on a carbon frame. Most companies are all over the map with warrantee and/or crash replacement on carbon frames. Not the kind of risk or headache I want to entertain
Thanks for the info. We are making the move out of the Front Range to the mountains this fall and I am dipping my toes into the water so to speak of figuring out what kind of trail bike I would want, how much to spend, etc. Spent some time on a full suspension Giant this past weekend for an elk hunt and the full suspension definitely gave me more confidence as an old guy who hasn't ridden dirt since having a BMX bike in middle school.
I don’t know that it’s always true. For example: a lot of spends cranks, handlebars and stems are carbon....and they break a lot.
I’d actually trust a carbon frame before some carbon cranks....lookin at you RaceFace! And I still use my fifteen year old Deda Newton AL bar and stem....I’ve used it on three AL frames (cracked at weld) and one carbon frame.
I do agree that metal is better at impacts like rocks.
Since you’re going front range: look at Guerilla Gravity.
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Giant is a good choice. They stand behind their product(lifetime warrantee), great price(biggest company in the world), and they just work. Guessing you’d probably look at a “trance”. If you’re new to the sport you’d probably want lbs support rather than buy an online bike so another check for giantQuote:
Originally Posted by gretch6364
Exceptionally rare. These days, the only real difference between a carbon frame and aluminum frame is the weight savings.Quote:
Originally Posted by gretch6364
It was honestly a really shitty bike from back in the day before they re-branded and started making high end bikes....at least I think. Did Giant do that? It was a Warp DC2. It didn't seem like a good bike. I borrowed it from a buddy who said he couldn't care less about it and that I could leave it in the woods when I hunted. As someone that is not used to riding, my ass bones were screaming! I was also wearing a 40LBS pack...which made it a lot harder to ride.Quote:
Originally Posted by grinch
Giant has been making both high-end bikes and budget bikes since the early 90's. Maybe even the late 80's. That Warp was a P.O.S. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by gretch6364
Yes, I was thinking sixc or nextr cranks with the pedal insets. Definite no on SRAM carbon cranks. I’d have more faith in race face giving crash replacement than any frame company but I still wouldn’t risk it on sl’sQuote:
Originally Posted by smartyiak
I never said carbon bars, I like my rental aluminium but there’s lots of quality aluminium bars that may fit people better. I do have carbon rentals on my trail bike though but I’m comfortable with them there, torqued to spec and minimal drops to flat or general abuse
I’ve also cracked an aluminium frame but that’s one in 30 and I definitely hear a lot of issues on carbon and headaches with pretty much every company. Strange as well is that sometimes companies just replace without question than lots of other times they don’t even offer crash replacement when it’s an outright warrantee issue
Agree on guerilla gravity. I like their numbers and design the most without having a lot of knowledge on the company. I keep going back and looking at them. Numbers suck me in because they hit what I’m after over everything else then I convert cad to usd . Sooo nice though. I want a mega most
Yeah...it was pretty bad. Luckily, it was only a 7 mile ride in. The suspension was bad enough that I could not stand up and pedal at all with the pack on.Quote:
Originally Posted by skaredshtles
Haha ya warp is one aluminium bike I have seen pulled into 2 pieces. It was the original square tubed one. They were incredibly cheap in price though. They had a market as a light duty comfortable entry level trail bike a lonnnng time ago. Much better options now. Definitely not recommended to do a 12-15 step stair drop to flat sidewalk with a burly dh fork.it did do a lot before that catastrophic failure though
I think most of the failures in that vid were aluminium, I've broke an aluminium Gary fisher, I remember junior peaking over the top of a dirt jump holding 2 halves of a Devinci, cracked a chain stay on a Brodie we got warranty on all of themQuote:
Originally Posted by gretch6364
they can all break I think it depends on how hard you use them
giant would be a good bike, they make frames for other companies
I mentioned bc they’re great at customer service, they make them right in Denver (so he’d have local support), they stand behind their product, and you can get a TrailPistol under 30# with a little effort .Quote:
Originally Posted by grinch
If carbon is your jam: look at Spot (also front rangey). Samokken swears by both the Rollik and the Mayhem. They got a sale right now too.
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That’s good to hear. GG are not huge so you don’t hear a ton but I heard good reports on them. Their budget build was a really good price and nothing on it for parts that would concern me. I really like the two travel options on the mega. 150/165 would suit both my main uses with a 170 fork. A sale eh.............Quote:
Originally Posted by smartyiak
Another bonus: I don’t want to say the builds are mere suggestions, but they’ll change stuff around and give you options that aren’t necessarily in the drop down menu.Quote:
Originally Posted by grinch
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I’m not seeing any sale prices on their site. Was that from an email?Quote:
Originally Posted by smartyiak
The sale is for Spot...not GG.Quote:
Originally Posted by grinch
https://spotbrand.com/collections/bikes
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Has ok thanks. Got a little hyped I guess. Saw gg and sale and lost all focus. Probably for the bestQuote:
Originally Posted by smartyiak