I have the Hankook's on my wifes Chevy Trailblazer 4x4 and they go go go in the snow. I've bought them 2x for it and will buy them again and again.Quote:
Originally Posted by AaronWright
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I have the Hankook's on my wifes Chevy Trailblazer 4x4 and they go go go in the snow. I've bought them 2x for it and will buy them again and again.Quote:
Originally Posted by AaronWright
I've had Rotiivas on the Subaru for 25k kms, with about 75% tread left. They've been great so far in many conditions... rock, sand, gravel, slush, snow and ice. They handle well enough on the hwy, wet and dry. They've been working well for traveling high speed crushed gravel logging roads and other rough semi-maintained backroads.
The car had Nokian Hakka studded for years before getting the Rotiiva, which work just as well for winter except for slick ice of course. I agree with the stopping on ice... ok, but not great. Probably due to less siping than a proper winter tire.
I've had the old BFG MTs and ATs and would rather have the Cooper STTs than either. I haven't tried the KO2s and I'm also interested in the new STT Pro's but I have three sets of tires to wear out first-brand new AT3's on the 4x4 van, half life STTs on my 80, and Toyo's on the F150. I just can't like the Toyo's but they are what came on the pickup. If I got AT3s on it and it was as loose, I'd sell it and buy a different pickup.Quote:
Originally Posted by 2FUNKY
Gotcha! The KO2 is a completely different animal.
I've got the new rotiiva at plus Light truck (10 ply) on my ford explorer. I've had blizzaks, studded mastercraft courser msr's , and most every winter tire out there. These nokian rotiiva's kill it on everything except stopping on slick wet ice. not advertised as a true winter tire, but they work pretty damn well. Very happy with the purchase. Just got me through the latest tahoe storm. Only thing that stopped me was low clearance on the explorer. Only time I had noticably poor stopping was tonight at the bottom of an off ramp where there was glare ice with water running across it. great tire.
I've got the new rotiiva at plus Light truck (10 ply) on my ford explorer. I've had blizzaks, studded mastercraft courser msr's and studded glacier grip 2's, michelin's latitude x ice, and most every winter tire out there. These nokian rotiiva's kill it on everything except stopping on slick wet ice. not advertised as a true winter tire, but they work pretty damn well. Very happy with the purchase. Just got me through the latest tahoe storm. Only thing that stopped me was low clearance on the explorer. Only time I had noticably poor stopping was tonight at the bottom of an off ramp where there was glare ice with water running across it. great tire.
I recently got a pair of the new Geolander G015. 275/70/18 on a Silverado. I'm no tire nerd, but these have been great in snow so far.Quote:
Originally Posted by zion zig zag
Replaced Toyo AT's that came on the truck, those were the worst tires I've ever owned.
Maybe a stupid question, but I am about to be a very big truck owner. F350 7.3L super cab/long-bed (not a dually) with a big ass Lance slide in camper and hauling a trailer sometimes. Gonna be carrying some weight on this thing, but still don't want to give up snow and dirt traction as I will be driving a lot of dirt and mountain passes in CO and sometimes without the camper. I've spent two decades on BFG AT's on my Tacoma and wouldn't mind just throwing some of those on there if they can handle the weight but have a sneaking suspicion that they won't be sufficient.
So what tire would work best for this application?
E rated Duratracs seem popular around here. I'm in a 3/4 ton Chevy with a 2000lb Bigfoot (when loaded) and quite happy with traction. Some of the E rated versions have a 3750lb load capacity, which should more than cover your total GVW.Quote:
Originally Posted by ULLRismyco-pilot
Cooper AT/W's have E load ratings options too.
Either way, look at the spec sheet for the tire, e-rated tires have some variation in load capacity depending on the size.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Tortoise
ST/Maxx comes in E range, too... similar to Duratrac.
Big thing like I said is check the actual load rating of the tire you're buying and then look at the bed payload and tongue weight you're experiencing with your camper and whatever it is you're hauling.Quote:
Originally Posted by Norseman
Depending on what you haul with the camper, upgrading to a dually could make sense... a tire blowout is bad.
Cooper AT3 E rated in 285/75/16 are 3,750 per tire. One of the reasons they are on my van which comes in right around 10k wet.
Almost bought those... but decided that I was afraid of the single layer sidewall for my intended use. Otherwise a great looking tire.
I didn't think the Cooper Discoverer At3 was very good in snow. Not terrible, but worse than general grabbers I had on multiple vehicles prior. Bucked up and bought duratracs this fall even tho the coopers had a lot of life left. Totally glad I did, way better in both wet and dry snow, and more predictable when they do break loose. Best tire I've used. The coopers were good on dry and wet freeways and dry dirt roads, not very impressive in nastier off-road conditions
I too worship at the temple of our almighty lord and savior Duratrac.Quote:
Originally Posted by claymond
is that the rotiiva plus they tested or the older model? do they test the cooper ATW? fair any better?Quote:
Originally Posted by DIYSteve
Anybody have input on the Toyo Open Country AT2?
They seem to have good ratings, particularly on the heavy diesel rigs. Priced about $50/tire below Duratrac. 65000-mile guarantee. Larger sizes have deeper tread and deep-scalloped shoulders and plenty of siping. 18" diameter are rated 4k+ lbs. Properly inflated, that's a good margin of safety on a 10-12k lb rig.
My FIL has them on a truck, they seem much better than the old Toyo AT but still not a Duratrac???Quote:
Originally Posted by kai_ski
cooper STT max FTW
shouldn't tires at least have the mountain snowflake symbol to be mentioned here
Accept no substituteQuote:
Originally Posted by Leavenworth Skier
That's a big ass truck setup. Especially coming from a Tacoma....Quote:
Originally Posted by ULLRismyco-pilot
I don't think the Toyo AT2 have the mountain snowflake either.Quote:
Originally Posted by kai_ski
Keeping the Taco for a daily driver.Quote:
Originally Posted by t-the-east
Is it legal in colorado to DD anything else? Other than a rally spec STI or audi avant.Quote:
Originally Posted by ULLRismyco-pilot
I have the newer Rotiiva, and they stop just fine on ice. There is a lot of siping in the tread, although I do not know what the older ones look like. Real world stopping on slimy ice and hills is just short of studded tire performance.Quote:
Originally Posted by klauss
Having used Duratracs on a couple different vehicles, I can say the Dynapro ATM gives up little or anything to the Duratrac in anything but deep mud. I found them to have fantastic winter traction. Snowflake symbol. I think they may be a little better on packed snow and icey roads. Very nice siping. Quieter and less expensive. Made in Korea by real Koreans.
Pretty much, it is a '98 and just won't die. Too much miles, rust and dents to be resalable so figure I will just drive it into the ground. It might outlast me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leavenworth Skier
I don't drive cars much. Wife has an outback but wants a new Taco ;)
This is a solid suggestion.Quote:
Originally Posted by AaronWright
This is going on a big man truck, gotta have the mudders on there.Quote:
Originally Posted by AaronWright
Of course, why not have tires that are too heavy and noisy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leavenworth Skier
Obviously need to step up to 40" Trepador biasQuote:
Originally Posted by AaronWright
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Which Korea?Quote:
Originally Posted by AaronWright
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WOOOOOO HOOOOOO FUCK YEAH MUTHA FUCKA!!!! AND MAY GOD FUCKIN' BLESS FUCKIN' AMERICA!!! SHIT DAMN HOWDY!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Leavenworth Skier
I have been running the Wildpeaks this winter as well on my F150. Meh on ice, but really good in deep, heavy, crusty, whatever snow and slush. Highway noise isn't too bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by esseff
I see eburg is starting to rub off on you. I bet you want an AR15 now too.Quote:
Originally Posted by DIYSteve
Those are gonna look awesome on the Mazda!Quote:
Originally Posted by DIYSteve
JUST ONE OF THEM SUMBITCHES?!Quote:
Originally Posted by Leavenworth Skier