Your current [like right now, today if you were going on a trip] quiver

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03-21-2006, 10:44 PM
ak_powder_monkey

188 soft bros
178 PEs
03-21-2006, 11:03 PM
Sinecure

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Originally Posted by leroy jenkins

So uh, you ski on snowboards? Thats kinda cool I guess. I'm really confused.

Nope, mostly snowboard. I need a pair of skis. The question was what quiver. That's my quiver. Oh, and I probably wouldn't take the 163 on a trip. Just the other 3.
03-22-2006, 12:15 AM
bossass

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Originally Posted by Poacher

190 Nordica W9.1FF w/ S920s
190 Nordica W105 w/S916s

What's the logic there?

Anyway, if were saying like "I'm going to AK on a plane" the reality is 2 pairs, so:
-Spats with 916s
-Axioms with Freeride+'s or Lab Swallowtails with 914s, to close to call. Would depend on if it was a heli-only trip or not.
-A month from now, substitute Spat with Pontoon.

Driving in my truck to Jackson:
-Spats with 916s
-179 Made'n AKs with 916s
-Lab Swallowtails with 914s
-190 Gots with P18
-184 Squads with Axial2 14s (thanks Trainvain)
-190 Ants with P18
-180 AR5s with ZRS 7-17
-Axioms with Freeride+
03-22-2006, 12:25 AM
bio-smear

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Originally Posted by focus

were it me, and I was designing a plate to work with those inserts...i'd make it so I could take advantage of all 6 screw holes. My primary concern with such a setup would be twist in the ski/binding interface, but I suppose if that plate's burly enough my concern would be pretty groundless.

Not a bad idea, focus.

Infantile, they weigh about the same, but at least with this setup I get a Look/Rossi binding.
03-22-2006, 12:35 AM
El Chupacabra

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Originally Posted by bio-smear

Why buy another pair of 140's when I can use a $20 plate that provides the threaded inserts? Spend money on more skis, not bindings. Plus I can ski any LINE ski with my own binding setup....uhh granted that they don't already have bindings attached. Frankly, it would be lighter and less headache to just buy more bindings, but I got hung up on the principle of this project, and it actually works pretty well. El Chupacabra makes fun of me constantly.

Only because it seems like more work than necessary. I prefer the route of the Salomon S900/ 997/ 977 binding; just slap one on each ski you have, sell the binding with the skis if you decide to unload them, no big deal. Perfectly good binding, easy to obtain for cheap, reasonable weight, reliable.

The machine work and powdercoating on those bio-plates is 1st rate though. Very nicely done.

One other thought -- Line sells their skis with those inserts in them to use the Line bindings; your plate is basically a way to use the Line inserts but with whatever binding you want. Is a ski without the Line inserts going to be strong enough to take the load focused by that plate on 4 holes simply drilled into the ski?

Something to consider with the 4FRNT VCTs showing up. If you mount the bio-plate into that ski, and rip out all 4 holes in the dead center of the ski, seems like that could seriously weaken the ski.
03-22-2006, 12:57 AM
bio-smear

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Originally Posted by El Chupacabra

Something to consider with the 4FRNT VCTs showing up. If you mount the bio-plate into that ski, and rip out all 4 holes in the dead center of the ski, seems like that could seriously weaken the ski.

Goatsucker,
This is the steel plate/plastic bezel combo that screws to the ski permanently using 6 standard binding mounting wood screws. The steel section measures 14cm long. This is(was) made by LINE. My contraption simply screws into some 6mm inserts in this plate, so the interface with the ski is actually a much larger area than the 4-hole pattern. I'll prob put together a carbon fiber version of this with a different 4 hole pattern later this year. 5 min to swap the bindings between skis with warm fingers. Thanks for your encouragement.
03-22-2006, 01:00 AM
El Chupacabra

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Originally Posted by bio-smear

Goatsucker,
This is the steel plate/plastic bezel combo that screws to the ski permanently using 6 standard binding mounting wood screws. The steel section measures 14cm long. This is(was) made by LINE. My contraption simply screws into some 6mm inserts in this plate, so the interface with the ski is actually a much larger area than the 4-hole pattern. I'll prob put together a carbon fiber version of this with a different 4 hole pattern later this year. 5 min to swap the bindings between skis with warm fingers. Thanks for your encouragement.

I didn't realize you were going to use the bio-plate on top of the Line freedom plate on the VCT. That looks like it'll distribute the binding forces sufficiently.

(I'm encouraging you... I just want to be there with a camera if/when the contraption fails spectacularly...)
03-22-2006, 01:04 AM
bio-smear

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Originally Posted by El Chupacabra

I just want to be there with a camera if/when the contraption fails spectacularly...

Me too man, me too.
03-22-2006, 01:59 AM
verbier61

sanouks, 188 soft BROs, kehuas, sweet daddies.
03-22-2006, 04:08 AM
KANUTTEN

Relevant question. As in; going to the alps in 2 days :-). I will bring;

lawnchairs with freerides for the first 5 days of touring
dp lotus 120 with s 920s for the last 3 days of deep powder in Engelberg :D(wishful thinking..)

The G4's will have to stay home, but they really should be heading for the dump...
03-22-2006, 04:35 AM
ulty_guy

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Originally Posted by Vicious

Except for the fact that they are mounted differently.

another option in all these 'quickmount' ideas is the vist speedlock system (pro is pretty sweet). it's the same binders at the 4frnt deadbolt (available in 6-14 and 8-16 w/ wide brakes and upward release lockout). the plate is only about 1.5 cm high (you'd still be much lower off the ski than a pair of freerides or naxos) and it's a sinch to reposition fore-aft or even between skis.
03-22-2006, 04:37 AM
verbier61

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Originally Posted by KANUTTEN

lawnchairs with freerides for the first 5 days of touring

I can't believe I am not the only one who still LOVES lawnchairs for touring!!! I just drilled a pair (from the garbage of a verb rental service, but apparently used very few times) with dynafit and am seriously considering to use them for the haute route :yourock:
03-22-2006, 05:07 AM
KANUTTEN

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Originally Posted by verbier61

I can't believe I am not the only one who still LOVES lawnchairs for touring!!!...

?? [grammarpolice/]That must be at least a "can't" or "not" too many :) [grammarpolice/]

They sure work for me, sir! A very lively ride, lots of "life" in the ski. On piste they are worse than donkeyballs though...
03-22-2006, 06:01 PM
Slider&BucketO'nails

188 Stiff Bros with S914s
184 Stockli Offroad XL with Freerides
03-22-2006, 06:04 PM
homerjay

the only skis I have:

183 Gotamas - R8s
180 Lawnchairs - hardwires
177 10exs - R8s

all set.:)
03-22-2006, 06:16 PM
Foggy_Goggles

leaving tomorrow

Gotamas w/Freerides
Axioms w/997

All mountain domination
03-22-2006, 07:21 PM
upallnight

Quote:

Originally Posted by bossass

Driving in my truck to Jackson:
-Spats with 916s
-179 Made'n AKs with 916s
-Lab Swallowtails with 914s
-190 Gots with P18
-184 Squads with Axial2 14s (thanks Trainvain)
-190 Ants with P18
-180 AR5s with ZRS 7-17
-Axioms with Freeride+

bossass...you'd really take 9 skis on a roadtrip? Would you be moving to Jackson? :)

If I had to take one ski anywhere, it'd be my Gots + Freerides.

I might add...
(a) my Seths + Dynafits if it's more of a mountaineering trip;
-or-
(b) my Spats/Freerides if it's more of a pow-thang/heli-trip (wishful thinking).
03-22-2006, 09:07 PM
bossass

Quote:

Originally Posted by upallnight

bossass...you'd really take 9 skis on a roadtrip? Would you be moving to Jackson? :)

If I had to take one ski anywhere, it'd be my Gots + Freerides.

I might add...
(a) my Seths + Dynafits if it's more of a mountaineering trip;
-or-
(b) my Spats/Freerides if it's more of a pow-thang/heli-trip (wishful thinking).

Doth a noble archer pursue his quarry with one arrow? I think not!
03-22-2006, 09:49 PM
Big E

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Originally Posted by bossass

Doth a noble archer pursue his quarry with one arrow? I think not!

I can't even fathom having 9 pairs of skis in ones rotation, but that is the best rebuttal I've heard in a long time :D

Oh, for me, guess it'd be spats w/ Look Forza's and 185 XXX's w/ P12s. If I was expecting mostly groomers, swap in Stockli Stormriders for the spats.
03-22-2006, 09:53 PM
upallnight

Quote:

Originally Posted by bossass

Doth a noble archer pursue his quarry with one arrow? I think not!

Touché! :)

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