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The Torque caps have an extra wide flange on the outside edge like this:Quote:
Originally Posted by reukk
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Both regular and Torque caps work with that fork.
Those forks just have a bolt on piece to clamp down on regular end caps if you don’t have the Torque end caps.
Dee Hubbs has it covered, but try installing the wheel, and it will become obviousQuote:
Originally Posted by reukk
Sram Engineers: Is there a way to take something reliable, and make it unnecessarily complicated? An argument can be made that when functioning perfectly it will be 0.02% more performancy, but we already know it's bullshit and are in production on the thing that will make it obsolete.Quote:
Originally Posted by reukk
Sram Marketing: We Love You To Infinity And Beyond.
Everyone at Shimano/Fox: Thank you for reminding our customers why they're loyal to us. We literally did nothing and that's all they wanted. We Love You More.
Can someone explain torque caps like I’m 6? Like what would I have ever noticed with the standard RS/fox thru axle with QR and then said “oh man wish I had torque caps” man it’s just not even something I ever even considered. But it’s possible my zeb with the bolt on front axle one has torque caps and I don’t even know
All forks with a 15mm though axle accept an end cap the size of a NICKLE. The nickel sized end cap slots nicely in the cutouts in the forks, and the 15mm axle snugs everything up, and carries the weight and support. The nickel is industry standard.Quote:
Originally Posted by volklpowdermaniac
Sram came up with Torque caps, and increased the cutout in the forks to accept an end cap the size of a QUATER, so now you can replace your "industry standard" nickel sized end caps with end caps the size of a quarter. The 15mm through axle still carry all the weight, but according to SRAM the Torque Caps creates more surface area between hub and fork, and is "xx fake%" stiffer.
Every non Torque Cap (nickel) hubs can still be used in in a Torque cap (quarter) fork (just not optimized)
BUT
Torque Cap (quarter) hubs will not fit in a non Torque Cap (nickel) fork (ie Fox).
OR
You can still put your nickel in the quarter slot, but you cant put your quarter in the nickel slot. (why is the dime smaller than a nickel and penny?)
Fixed it for youQuote:
Originally Posted by Dee Hubbs
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A fix for the old forks if your wheel is annoying you.
https://bikerumor.com/found-newmen-t...-installation/
https://bikerumor.com/wp-content/upl...1553436536.jpg
Annoyingly overpriced on ebay....
It's their fucking fault that we had to abandon 20mm axles and switch to 15mm. Except for dh forks, of course, because having multiple front axle standards makes a ton of sense. They definitely don't get a pass on dumb front axle decisions.Quote:
Originally Posted by jm2e
Do you mean 20 x 110mm OR 20 x 110mm Boost? Thats the worst one.....Quote:
Originally Posted by toast2266
I think this is all of them:
12mm Thru x 100mm
12mm Thru x 110mm Road Boost
15mm Thru x 100mm
15mm Thru x 110mm Boost
15mm Thru x 150mm
20mm Thru x 110mm
20mm Thru x 110mm Boost
9x1 Threaded x 100mm
Lefty x 100mm
QR x 100mm
Good explanation. ThanksQuote:
Originally Posted by Dee Hubbs
Are we only doing current-ish standards? There were a few dh forks running 30mm axles for a while.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dee Hubbs
And the 25mm one on the Specialized Future Shock. And whatever the fuck Maverick was doing.Quote:
Originally Posted by toast2266
All good info. Thanks a ton
Anyone know the diameter of the torque caps so I can print some of those little moon adapters when I get my 3d printer?
31mmQuote:
Originally Posted by carlh
https://noblwheels.com/blog/what-are-torque-caps/
You don't need the moon adaptors. Non torque-cap hubs will work in torque cap forks without any modifications or spacers.Quote:
Originally Posted by carlh
If you don't have the moon adaptors, you have to spend half a second lining up the hub with the axle. The moon adaptors just make it so you don't have to do that, but it's kind of a non issue unless you're trying to hot swap wheels in a race or something like that.
I have been doing that for 4.5 years but it annoys me and will be like 15 minutes in Cad and a few cents worth of filament and an excuse to play with a new toy so why not.
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Originally Posted by toast2266
Quarter size, not Nickel size. :fmicon:Quote:
Originally Posted by carlh
Gotcha. Then by all means, make some moons!Quote:
Originally Posted by carlh
So, torque caps don’t actually torque anything? They aren’t like special preload adjusters?
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Pretty much. The one thing they're nice for is holding the wheel in place by friction when you're putting it on and then realize you left the axle out of reach.Quote:
Originally Posted by jm2e
Ritchie Rude Torque Caps (TM) will make you so much faster that you'll then need Ritchie Rude Bro Brake Fluid (TM) to slow down!
Will there be a special new axle torque clamp cap AXS direct mount doohickey for next year's forks, incompatible with all prior hubs and forks?
Sram did torque caps ~ 7 years ago as a way to promote their newly released wheelsets that (at the time) were the only ones with torque cap compatible hubs.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Chupacabra
Their wheelsets never really caught on, but we're left with the torque cap compatibility on the forks.
Maverick were 24mm, IIRC.