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Originally Posted by bagtagley

The modularity of the GG Smash/Gnarvana is awesome when I'm only going to the park a couple times a year, but I went a good bit last year and plan to go a lot more this year. Swapping between bikes that often gets tedious, and park riding beats the piss out of a bike, which isn't ideal when that bike is also my daily driver trail bike.

What I really want is a DH bike that I can occasionally pedal, minimally. Are freeride bikes still a thing?

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Sounds like a Norco Range (haven't ridden).

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Originally Posted by bagtagley

What I really want is a DH bike that I can occasionally pedal, minimally. Are freeride bikes still a thing?

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Norco Range?

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Originally Posted by bagtagley

What I really want is a DH bike that I can occasionally pedal, minimally. Are freeride bikes still a thing?

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Yup, this is how I ended up with a norco range. It's the closest thing to a true dh bike that I've ridden that still sort of pedals uphill.

I have a good friend who raced semi-pro DH for a long time, he’s been on a Megatower from Santa Cruz for a few years now, coaches a gravity team here in UT and races DH on it. It’s his only trail bike


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Wow, is that a sprockets quorum?

Interesting, definitely checks the right boxes. $4k for the frame is gonna have me looking used, though.

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Originally Posted by bagtagley

The modularity of the GG Smash/Gnarvana is awesome when I'm only going to the park a couple times a year, but I went a good bit last year and plan to go a lot more this year. Swapping between bikes that often gets tedious, and park riding beats the piss out of a bike, which isn't ideal when that bike is also my daily driver trail bike.

What I really want is a DH bike that I can occasionally pedal, minimally. Are freeride bikes still a thing?

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Transition Spire also gets high marks for pedal-ability. 170F&R same as the range. I've seen them very lightly used for ~$5000.

Cascade makes a link to increase leverage and bump rear travel up to 180, and the frame is rated for dual crown, so you can get as gnar as you want on it. At 180/200 it's basically a DH bike.

My buddy who goes through a ton of big bikes loves his mega tower. He’s also got a Forbidden Dreadnaught as his Enduro race bike.


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Originally Posted by bagtagley

The modularity of the GG Smash/Gnarvana is awesome when I'm only going to the park a couple times a year, but I went a good bit last year and plan to go a lot more this year. Swapping between bikes that often gets tedious, and park riding beats the piss out of a bike, which isn't ideal when that bike is also my daily driver trail bike.

What I really want is a DH bike that I can occasionally pedal, minimally. Are freeride bikes still a thing?

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Canfield 1.2

Specialized Status is probably your best bet for affordable durable single crown park slayer.
I’d also consider a Knolly Chilcotin, Trek Slash, Spec Enduro, Commencal Meta, Canyon Strive.




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Originally Posted by jm2e

Specialized Status is probably your best bet for affordable durable single crown park slayer.
I’d also consider a Knolly Chilcotin, Trek Slash, Spec Enduro, Commencal Meta, Canyon Strive.

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I’m not necessarily tied to single crown, just want something slightly more versatile than a full-on DH bike. What are you riding at Snowshoe? Starting to think that cost wise I should just get a used DH bike and take two bikes so that I have something for the enduro trails and stuff by Silvercreek.

I sometimes treat the Facebook “MTB Maintenance” page like ask the experts.
Someone ask a legitimate question where they need help, and I answer it, and provide supporting documents from a manufacturers tech site, and people on the site want to argue that it’s wrong.

Like how to size my chain? It’s a FS, it’s Shimano 12s, here are the steps, count this many spare links, here’s the document showing this procedure.
The chain drooping in the photo, and some jackass comments about B Tension. I give up and shouldn’t try to help.

Pressfit BB’s… and yes I already know…. Bought a frame that appears to have a sram BB for a 30mm spindle. Have a crank I want to use that’s 24 gpx, I assume I need a whole new BB and can’t get just get a kit to go from 30 down to 24?


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Originally Posted by Sandbox

Pressfit BB’s… and yes I already know…. Bought a frame that appears to have a sram BB for a 30mm spindle. Have a crank I want to use that’s 24 gpx, I assume I need a whole new BB and can’t get just get a kit to go from 30 down to 24?

And any tips for removing a BB without the proper tools or do I need to bite the bullet?? I have a press so should be able to install.


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Originally Posted by Sandbox

Pressfit BB’s… and yes I already know…. Bought a frame that appears to have a sram BB for a 30mm spindle. Have a crank I want to use that’s 24 gpx, I assume I need a whole new BB and can’t get just get a kit to go from 30 down to 24?


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Correct. New bb.

Yes, new BB is in order. Wheels Manufacturing does make an adapter but your adding a press fit adapter to a press fit BB and it cost as much as a BB…

Just use your brain and a punch and you will be fine, you might be able to make a 1 1/8 head set remover on a 30mm.

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Originally Posted by Dee Hubbs

I sometimes treat the Facebook “MTB Maintenance” page like ask the experts.
Someone ask a legitimate question where they need help, and I answer it, and provide supporting documents from a manufacturers tech site, and people on the site want to argue that it’s wrong.

Like how to size my chain? It’s a FS, it’s Shimano 12s, here are the steps, count this many spare links, here’s the document showing this procedure.
The chain drooping in the photo, and some jackass comments about B Tension. I give up and shouldn’t try to help.

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No good deed...

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Originally Posted by bagtagley

The modularity of the GG Smash/Gnarvana is awesome when I'm only going to the park a couple times a year, but I went a good bit last year and plan to go a lot more this year. Swapping between bikes that often gets tedious, and park riding beats the piss out of a bike, which isn't ideal when that bike is also my daily driver trail bike.

What I really want is a DH bike that I can occasionally pedal, minimally. Are freeride bikes still a thing?

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Norco Shore is like the range but aluminum and 27.5 and a lot cheaper. Seems perfect for this.

Thanks fellas, I assumed as much. Fucking press fit….


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Originally Posted by Dee Hubbs

I sometimes treat the Facebook “MTB Maintenance” page like ask the experts.
Someone ask a legitimate question where they need help, and I answer it, and provide supporting documents from a manufacturers tech site, and people on the site want to argue that it’s wrong.

Like how to size my chain? It’s a FS, it’s Shimano 12s, here are the steps, count this many spare links, here’s the document showing this procedure.
The chain drooping in the photo, and some jackass comments about B Tension. I give up and shouldn’t try to help.

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your posts are always awesume !

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Originally Posted by bagtagley

I’m not necessarily tied to single crown, just want something slightly more versatile than a full-on DH bike. What are you riding at Snowshoe? Starting to think that cost wise I should just get a used DH bike and take two bikes so that I have something for the enduro trails and stuff by Silvercreek.

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I ride my DH bike at Snowshoe; Commencal Supreme. But my other bikes are a 10yo 26er Knolly and a SpecEd Levo Ebike. I ride the Levo at SS when the DH bike is down, but worry about wear and tear on big fast days.
My wife rides her DH bike 70% of the time and her Knolly Delirium 30% of the time. She loves the Delirium there. Does not hesitate to take it down the WC track.
Tons of people shredding enduro bikes at Snowshoe and Windrock these days. On the flip side though, it’s really turning into a buyers market for DH rigs. Buddy has been trying to sell his Sender for a year now.


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Originally Posted by Abies

Norco Shore is like the range but aluminum and 27.5 and a lot cheaper. Seems perfect for this.

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The guys at the norco bike shop I used to hang at all had Shores for this purpose. Cheap and easy to build up. They were killer for the bike park and occasional shuttle laps with minimal peddling.

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Originally Posted by jm2e

Tons of people shredding enduro bikes at Snowshoe and Windrock these days. On the flip side though, it’s really turning into a buyers market for DH rigs. Buddy has been trying to sell his Sender for a year now.

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Yeah, I've been really happy with the Gnarvana. Just don't like the beating it's taking, and I got lazy towards the end of the season so I was DDing the Gnarvana which isn't ideal.

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Originally Posted by ASmileyFace

The guys at the norco bike shop I used to hang at all had Shores for this purpose. Cheap and easy to build up. They were killer for the bike park and occasional shuttle laps with minimal peddling.

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The Shore would be perfect if it was 29. I don't have anything against 27.5, but everything else I own is 29 and I'm done with disparate parts.

Seems ridiculous that Norco decided if you want a 29er you have to pay premium for it.
Just get an alloy Transition Spire and call it good.


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Originally Posted by forty

i havent been impressed with enduro bearings... and the wheels man bb also uses them dangit
any other brands use better bearings and not $$$?

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The bearings aren't the best or the worst.
To me, the main issue is turning a creak-prone bad idea (all press-fit BBs) into a far better designed, threaded together, BB.

Time for seasonal refresh of a 2021 X2. Pain in the ass or pretty reasonable? Quick search and I'm seeing there might be a need for some proprietary tools and what not, so might punt if it's gonna project that ends up costing a bunch anyway. Also thinking it might be worth it to send to Diaz to smooth out the back end, though not sure how much difference that would make on a shock that is tuned specifically for the bike, if not the rider. Cost isn't much more than sending to Fox.