Yeah I hear ya. Guess lucky me that I have a whole shop at my disposal. Suppose we'll see how this new bike holds up in that regard.Quote:
Originally Posted by toast2266
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Yeah I hear ya. Guess lucky me that I have a whole shop at my disposal. Suppose we'll see how this new bike holds up in that regard.Quote:
Originally Posted by toast2266
Yeah, my current bike has a concentric BB pivot. As did my bike before this one. And a couple others that I had before that. So apparently I'm not annoyed enough to stop buying them. But still, I'd kinda rather they didn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by bamboocoreONLY
I thot the concentric BB was to allow chain tensioning while running a single speed ?
Bullit with full power, Santa Cruz havent changed anything so I'm pretty much already wearing the tight shorts
Santa Mountain Megatude...
A concentric BB is an insert that goes in an oversized BB shell that has an insert that is drilled off center that the BB is mounted in and lets you tension the chain by rotating the insert around in the shell. I believe with a concentric BB pivot the main pivot wraps around the BB 'shell' and uses that create a gigantic oversized pivot point for the rear triangle.Quote:
Originally Posted by XXX-er
I was thinking about that at 2:30 this amQuote:
Originally Posted by sfotex
A concentric BB places a suspension pivot around the bottom bracket.Quote:
Originally Posted by sfotex
An eccentric BB places the bottom bracket in an offset carrier which can be rotated, which can be used to tension the chain on a single speed.
I have seen a prototype (I think from Specialized?) that uses a concentric BB pivot with an eccentric BB carrier within it (which was used to alter geometry by moving the BB location, not tension a singlespeed).
edit: This isn't the one I was thinking of, but here's a pic of a concentric pivot (the outer part connected to the chainstays) mounted to an eccentric BB (the inner part - the eccentric BB can be rotated by loosening the pinch bolts)
https://ep1.pinkbike.org/p5pb16086915/p5pb16086915.jpg
Continuing the spirit of this thread…since I am considering a 160ish frame to go with a 170 fork.
Trying to be open minded about a high pivot (Claymore maybe). For a lot of the same reasons Rideit listed, the new Altitude looked interesting.
As does the Dreadnought V2.
FWIW, I fucking love my Dreadnought (I have the V1 with a Cascade Link).
Yeah, my first thought was, Hey RM, Santa Cruz just called and said, "WTF, dude?!"Quote:
Originally Posted by toast2266
It’s not a copy, it’s an homage.
OK, back to the whole bikes for tight shorts, thing.
I recently built a top level Evil Wreckoning for a bud. When it was done, he was out of town for a week and he told me to take it out and put it through the paces (Strictly for QC reasons :cool: ).
I've always read the Wrecker was way more of a big trailbike than an enduro rig and I wanted to check out how it rode normal, flatish, non-DH, trails (Being a long travel Evil, I was pretty sure it would have DH chops).
The bike blew me away. The best thing I can say is that, even with the rear coil, it felt very similar to my Offering.
IMO, put an Ohlins air shock on it and this bike is the next evolution of the trailbike. An Offering on steroids.
The new Orbea Rallon looks pretty goddamn awesome. I mean, most new bikes that come out looks awesome, but there's not many that I'd actually consider buying. The Rallon might be an exception. Reasonably light, can be converted between DH and enduro, adjustable without going overboard, low-ish anti rise and low-ish anti squat, good geo, sane cable routing, and it even fits a water bottle. Pretty much ticks all of my boxes. Looks fairly sexy too.
https://www.pinkbike.com/news/first-...n-dh-2025.html
https://ep1.pinkbike.org/p5pb28183522/p5pb28183522.jpg
I duno this is so 4 yrs ago so i bought a new bike
It's a cool idea but the logistics of going back and forth between enduro and DH are non-trivial. You're looking at a bare minimum of a second shock ~$600 and DH fork $1800. Then you're either riding DH with a floppy 12sp drivetrain, or buying and swapping a second one of those. You could make taking off the enduro parts a bit easier if the enduro setup was wireless, but there's no retail wireless DH yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by toast2266
I could theoretically do something similar with my Nomad 6 and a Cascade link - that bumps it up to 190mm rear with the same 65mm stroke shock. And a 190mm Boxxer is only 5mm higher AC than a 170mm Zeb. But the drivetrain swap thing would still be there.
I do really like the optional weights feature of the Rallon though. I notice a huge difference in traction on steep loose riding my 43 lb SL ebike vs. my 35 lb Nomad (the extra weight being more grip).
^ i'm convinced no more than 10% of the people obsessed with shape shifting bikes , flip chips , multi bike compatible frames, are actually using it. there's too much adjustment on today's bike. fight me.
An exceedingly small number of people will actually convert it between the DH and Enduro configs. But, as a business strategy for Orbea it's a much better idea than selling separate Enduro and DH frames.
Sexy AF for sure.
Yeah, I wouldn't actually switch it very often. Maybe never. It's more that I want an enduro bike that's essentially just a DH bike with climbing gears, and that's what this is. A *lot* of other enduro-ish bikes give up some descending performance to achieve better manners in non-descending situations. For the most part, for where this bike would slot into my quiver, I don't want that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andeh
For where I live, and for 95% of the riding I do, I want an enduro bike. I could potentially see myself converting it for Whistler / other bike park trips. Definitely not switching back and forth with any frequency though.
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Now that Revel is back in the game, I've got my eye on a Ritual (especially at these lower prices).... waiting patiently to see some real-world reviews come out.
Not perfect, but the new Alloy Special Ed Turbo Levo comes in S1. I've been searching high and low for a full power long travel ebike for wife, and there are zero bikes. A couple brands making half power bikes with little batteries in the smaller sizes, but nothing full pull with shorter reach and WB. Not buying today, but options are better than they were yesterday.
check out the Vala, I'm really liking mine, a little less bulk than the Bullit, it feels lighter, the bosch motor is > the Shimano becuz it is quieter, it has more power down low and just seems to work better
So shorts and shirts tighter?