21/22 Gear Rumors

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Originally Posted by waxoff

I beg to differ. The middle buckle on Kryptons are riveted trough both the upper cuff and the lowers, restricting any swivelling around the main pivot. This is something that becomes clear when trying to add the larger forward lean shim at the back of Kryptons, it takes some real effort to get that in place. If the upper cuff had forward freedom of motion, swapping forward lean shims would be a walk in the park. Check again!

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Hi Waxoff, You are mistaken. The upper cuff is not riveted to the lower cuff anywhere except the ankle pivots. Doing so wouldn't allow the boot to pivot forwards and would negate the entire concept Dalbello touts with their design. The ankle buckle is screwed to a post that protrudes though a hole in the cuff which is considerably larger than said post. This allows the cuff to freely move around the buckle.

While it may not give just as good as a walk mode as the lupo, it is significant. Regardless, removing the tongue should increase that ROM significantly. Perhaps the designers thought undoing your buckles to help enough, but then I would be concerned about foot movement.

To give you some context, I modified my Atomic Hawx 130 XTD to have removable Dalbello B tongues. With those boots in walk mode with the tongue in, they are stiffer than no tongue with the boot in ski mode.

Alright, they must then have updated it from the Krypton 2's I rode for a season or two a few of years ago. Mine sure had pretty rigid cuffs because of said construction. Dalbello did the "swivel around the main pivot"-talk back then too. At the time I thought of it as a marketing scam.

Good to know they improved them, I stand corrected, carry on.

Edit; Just to feed my curiosity, do you have any pics of how the ankle buckle attaches to the clog through the cuff?

Too lazy to take a picture so check out this link. You can see the post the buckle mounts on and compare to the size of the hole in the cuff. Yes, these are the old Kryptons but the new ones look exactly the same.

https://theskimonster.com/blog/posts...bello-krypton/

Link does not work.

The below pic is from the Dalbello website showing their cabrio design. My Krypton 2 were like these. The round bottom hole is the main pivot. The top squared hole is were the "post" for the middle buckle sits. Holes are identical in clog and cuff. Cuff rotation around the pivot is restricted by this. See my point now?

Please enlighten me about any changes introduced to the Krypton Cabrio that deviates from this pic.

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No changes. Your both right. I spent last March and April touring on some walk mode less krypton (Luptons with Lupo carbon lower and krypton 130 upper). They worked great, lots of forward ROM with the tongue off. Skis like a krypton on the way down, cause it is. But yeah, the cuff I guess bottoms out eventually once the post of the lower gets in the way of the cuff. This was never a problem for me but could be I guess. If it was, you could cut out more room on cuff slot for the cuff to keep on rotating forward. A really great boot that I wish was offered a decade ago.


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That illustration isn't entirely correct (at least as far as the Lupos go - I'd assume the Kryptons follow the same cuff design.) The buckle is screwed or riveted to a post that runs through both the clog and cuff, but the cutout in the cuff is an arc-shaped slot rather than a hole, allowing the cuff to rotate around the ankle pivot without it running into/bottoming out on the buckle screw/rivet/post. Picture below of a Lupo with the buckle removed.

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^^^^Well, the discussion does not concern the Lupo.... which has a walk mode. The discussion concerned the rigid cuff Krypton (2), making that picture rather useless.

And no, your assumption on the Krypton cuff design is wrong, atleast that was not the design on the Krypton 2 I had.

Somebody sitting on a Krypton 2 or later care to remove the ankle buckle and snap a pic similar to the above posted?

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Almost a cm extra space. Plenty of forward ROM for someone looking for this type of boot for touring. The original krypton looks nothing like the drawing you posted, they both look like this.

Funny, I have a memory of the buckle hardware fastener having kind of a collar covering the post in the cuff void. But apparently, I must have been dreaming...