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I copped a pair of Tour Pros on the eBay for cheap and they just came in. Only problem is this: that one flange is bent in about 1/2-3/4 of an inch and does not feel good on the calf. How should I go about fixing that?Attachment 345306
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Heat gun. Put on gloves and hold it while it cools.Quote:
Originally Posted by stealurface831
How much heat is the question, kind of hard to tell you over the Internet but push it periodically while heating until it seems pliable (doesn't matter if the Grilamid glazes slightly on the leading edge; no one will see it but you).
20/21 ZGPT weight at 29.5 is 1576g (with liner/insole and no laces or calf shim)
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Question: before I dig into forward lean, does anyone know how they come stock. Just to clarify, the 20/21 manual does provide mention of forward lean adjustment and provides pre-thread-locked screws for use if you end up adjusting said forward lean.
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That seems a lot?
Advertised weight is around 1350, isn't it? Obviously for a 26,5 or something, but still?
Mine from two seasons ago, with laces. 28.5...https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...6ba703b8d5.jpg
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Blisters measurement puts a pair of 26,5 with liners and stock fotbeds at 1350-ish grams. Which is in accordance with Tecnicas claims of 1320 for a 26,5.
This is kinda weird. The difference between your 28,5 and 29,5 is 20g, so it can't be that
Excellent point about footbeds!Quote:
Originally Posted by jrredho
I'd call my arch medium to medium low (unsupported), with perhaps an average instep height when supported by a footbed.
A data point: I had to run my Z-Gs in the Spring of 2019 with liners molded for my Maestrales (boot fitter closed for the season). My instep was in agony.
I realize this says more about the relative instep height of the 2 boots, but I'd say that with Tour Wraps molded for the Z-Gs, I have just enough (but not too much) instep height. IOW, if my supported instep was much higher, I'd likely be looking at grinding the footboard.
Of course my 9.5 (larger foot) when measured on a Brannock is unsupported by a footbed. IOW, I lose some length (as you implied) with a footbed.
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I believe they come at 12Quote:
Originally Posted by spaztwelve
Not sure if they put the same amount of locktite on that they did for the 17-19 ones but it might be worth heating up the screws before trying to unscrew them. I have the 18-19 ones and completely fucked one of the screws trying to do it without heat, with a brand new diamond coated tip screw driver and pressing in as hard as I could, because they put a FAK TON of locktite on them.
Forward lean angles are just as big of a crap shoot as flex numbers from one brand to the next. There are a million ways to measure forward lean... same with ramp angle.Quote:
Originally Posted by spaztwelve
12* from one brand isn’t 12* for another
Flipping the female piece will give you 1* more forward lean. If you need more I’d suggest a spoiler. Lange makes the thickest that are readily available at most decent ski shops as everyone loves to remove them for some reason. Surefoot has nice big thick ones. The ones that come on Fischer race boots are dope as well. The ones we make aren’t...
And we haven't even talked about tech binding ramp. Take them out and ski them with several shims in your pocket, and decide what works best. I wanted a little more than the nominal 13 degrees with the flipped chip, tried contact cementing velcro to the liner and using some Full Tilt and Lange spoilers, but they didn't want to stay put while skinning so I ended up just skiing with the top buckle a little loose. Not sure what will work for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by wasatchback
I wear 11 street shoes and a27.5 zero g pro. Fits well.
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My local Tecnica dealer isn't carrying Zero Gs this year, but they were totally stoked to give me their take on the shell fits of the two sizes that I bought online which was a huge help.
I'm an 11 in running shoes. My local boot fitter strongly recommended the 26.5 and punching the toes based on shell fit, so I'm getting them molded and punched this afternoon.
New ones are...RED!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by spaztwelve
On forward lean I found the adjustment flip did next to nothing.
Lean angle still too upright for me. I’ve gone to ATK’s from the pretty flat Alpinist to see if that helps.
I’ll report back. Just want to match the setup of the cochise I ski inbound.
I flipped mine back and forth a couple times as it’s quite cryptic to figure out which way is which. I couldn’t tell either. It’s like having adjustable chain-stays on a bike with only 1 mm of adjustment.Quote:
Originally Posted by CaliBrit
Yeesh what does your actual foot measure?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevo
I'm 26.4 and 26.3 cm on each foot and in 26.5s too (wear 9.5 street shoe).
I'd bet they didn't get to order them.;) I haven't heard of a shop the last two years that didn't sell out or almost sell out of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevo
FWIW, my red shells in a 26.5 are more than 100g heavier than the Blister measurement from a couple years ago. That's with the boot board and all the buckles, power strap, etc. Right around 1220g. Dunno what changed.
Maybe red dye is heavier? Could be the explanation for why red stuff is faster. :fmicon:
Science !Quote:
Originally Posted by HAB
I'm a 10.5+ street shoe and I have 28.5 ZGTPs. I keep reading about people sizing down on these things and I really don't get it. It could come down to ankle fit, or use case (e.g., riding lifts w/ big sticks), but I don't wish mine were any tighter. And the buckles work for me really well, in terms of being able to tighten them up without uncomfortable pressure. That said, I only tour with them and I'm not hucking bigly. But I do a fair bit of crampon walking up big mountains, so fit and precision are appreciated. I'd say mine are just right, other than the liners are starting to pack out. What is the TGR consensus for importing in Intuitions, LV or MV, downsized to the lower shell size? I'm considering trying the Tour Wrap, but I use an off the shelf footbed. Anybody have experience with that setup?Quote:
Originally Posted by rod9301
I could probably ski a 28.5, but I knew that when pack-out happened, I'd be swimming in them and probably getting blisters on the up and lack control on the down. In the 27.5, a big toe punch (do Italians have pointy feet?) and a liner mold, and I'll be g2g for many days. I'll probably do some bc riding out of the resort with these as well, so what's the point of skiing a sloppy boot?
I would like to get a tour wrap or similar in this boot someday, the stock liner is not great.
I'm in an 11.5 shoe and a 28.5 ZeroG. The fit is great for up and down, made better with Pro Tours over the stock paper thin liners.
That said I've been kicking around the idea of trying to drop 1 full shell size. If it wasn't Covid year I'd have gone through a new fitting by now.
Interesting data points, thanks. What Pro Tour did you go with Medium Volume? Also what benefit would you anticipate from sizing down, assuming you could maintain a comfy fit for all your use scenarios? Speaking of which, do those of you who size down use them in warmer conditions? My warmest use is normally Adams in July, so foot swell over the course of the season can be fairly substantial.Quote:
Originally Posted by N1CK.
Putting this here
If you fuck up your Zero G Tour Pro/Scout walk mode bar, and are out of warranty, I can sell you one for cheap.
I needed a new T nut for the walk mode "catch" (the part that you flip to get an extra degree. Only way I could get one is ordering a WHOLE set of the walk mode (left and right). So just looking to make the t-nut at least cost me less than a resort hamburger
I had my first day on my Zero G Scouts today.
-I'm 195 lbs, 5'11'', 11 street shoe, sized to a punched out 26.5 Zero G Tour Scout.
Today was an inbounds, dust on crust day at Targhee (maybe 4-5 inches at the top, dusting at the bottom), ice/sun crust underneath everything. Crud setting up in places. Basically, the type of day where you definitely don't want a touring boot. I skied my new 190cm Moment Deathwish Tours and Voyager bindings.
I'm 100% sold on the boots. I can't believe how well they drive a bigger ski and hold up in chop. It felt very much like my Cochise Pro 130s. but obviously a bit less substantial because of the weight. I never wished for the boots to be stiffer, and they have a nice, natural, progressive flex that feels a lot like an alpine boot.
Thanks, Tecnica. This is the type of boot I've been dreaming about for the 12+ years I've been backcountry skiing. I'm blown away.
Word, glad you're stoked. They are great boots.